ROM Hack Ace Attorney Investigation (2): Prosecutor's Path FINAL [RELEASE]

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Hi,
As a huge fan of the Ace Attorney series since 2012 (when I discovered it and started playing all the games in a row) I want to thank all of the people who collaborated in completing this translation. I often checked up on what stage the translation's at, but I didn't want to play the game in portions so I waited for the complete work to be done, so that I can experience it as a full AA game like all the others.
I'm currently at the end of episode 1, and I have to say: hats off!
I was afraid that the translation's style might differ from the originals', but if I didn't know it's a fan translation beforehand, I couldn't have told...
The text reads itself brilliantly, and stays true to AA concepts and characters.
A work of this magnitude (everybody knows AA games aren't really short, and are mainly about text, text, text...) needs true patience, devotion, and I believe talent as well (trying not to go overboard here...I know that it's not the cure for cancer you discovered here, but still, I'm sure that any random person just couldn't pull this off) - not to mention, that if you compare the time it takes for translating this whole thing and the time that takes one person (who obviously doesn't think of the hard job that's been put in this while playing, at least not all the way through) to finish the game, that thought could single handedly drain people's will to keep on translating.
So again, as a big AA fan, thanks again, for having made this happen, which I, and many others have long been waiting for!
 
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Can somebody help me? When I try to apply the patch (in both xdelta and beta) it asks me for 3 files. One is my rom, the other is the patch, so what's the third one? and, in which order should I select them? I don't think I understand the instruccions, I only see the mention of 2 files...
 

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I don't know why I do this but here we go:
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Or if you prefer
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Oh Auryn, curious question - when it's out of beta, do you remove the 'Cases 1-5' from the upper right? It just feels distracting compared to the other Phoenix Wright title screens.
 

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Probably yes.
It was there mostly to mark the partial patches and the beta.
The final one don't need that anymore.
 

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Hey guys, love your work so far. This is a very high quality localisation that I wouldn't otherwise have the pleasure of experiencing. As a serial open source software translator (who once wanted to translate in a professional capacity), I find the amount of work that has gone into this localisation to be phenomenal for a labour of love such as this. I've played the two cases and they're truly phenomenal.

Alas, I don't typically sign up to web fora to merely give praise. I have an issue to report (two, actually). I'll report the second one another day, after this has been examined.

The correspondence chess memo
I object ;) to the board ranks used in the memo.

Here are screenshots of the memo in question and the corresponding position on a chessboard in-game straight from DeSMuME:
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What's the problem here, you might ask? Well, the position of each piece in the memo is highly unrealistic and would typically take well over a hundred moves to reach in a real game; and I still don't see it happening assuming both players are playing to win.

Why is that? Simply put, the White pieces are always placed on the 1st and 2nd ranks. The Black pieces go on the 7th and 8th ranks. This is the exact opposite of where they start! Such a position is nearly impossible to come about naturally.

But it goes further than that!

The in-game chessboard depicts the ranks correctly. How do I know this? I actually set up the memo's position on my own expensive and handmade chessboard and then took a photo with my comparatively cheap and inexpensive phone camera:
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NB: this is the memo's incorrect position on a real chessboard.

Can you see it? The squares on the in-game chessboard do not correspond to the squares on this real board that use the faulty ranks of the memo.

This means that only the memo is mistaken and the in-game places black and white in their original ranks.

It might seem pedantic, but as a chess fanatic, I could not let this go unaddressed. Thankfully, it would be as simple as changing the order of the ranks so it would not be more than a couple of minutes' work in most image editing software in most image editing software.

NB: I didn't mention the name of the memo's author to avoid spoilers.

PS: I originally added the photo of my chessboard at its original (albeit cropped) resolution of 1600*1556 px. From using the GUI tool to resize it to editing the BBcode source, it seems that the image showed up as fullwidth anyway so I had to reupload the image resized to a lower resolution for reading aid. You may want to investigate this.
 

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It indeed seems like a mistake from the original authors. (case A1 being white instead of black)
Nonetheless, if this mistake exists, it is, sadly, not the work of translators to correct it. However, IF modifying the image can be done properly and with not too much work, making an improvement by correcting this would indeed be great.

Just keep in mind that...if authors are mistaken, it is not our job to correct them (sadly)
 

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Indeed, nice detective work Apollo Justice :P
Something tell me you play chess a bit more than we do and the original authors did :)
I am the same opinion as Choky that is not our job to correct it apart that 49250 people probably played past that point and didn't notice it :P

Sadly Choky, if my memory is not wrong, those G2/G6 are on the text as well so to correct that error, it would mean retouch the text as well because we need to flip the numbers 1-8 on the paper piece or flip vertically the pieces on that paper to get the more probable game.
Naturally flip only the board vertically on the right pic as well to get the A1 white.
 

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Naturally flip only the board vertically on the right pic as well to get the A1 white.
A1 is black on chessboards. The in-game chessboard does not have to be touched up. Corrections need to be made only to the memo -- specifically on the hand-drawn board and the g2/g6 bits to the right. Thank you very much for our attention to this matter! I never expected such swift feedback. :lol:
 

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A1 is black on chessboards. The in-game chessboard does not have to be touched up. Corrections need to be made only to the memo -- specifically on the hand-drawn board and the g2/g6 bits to the right. Thank you very much for our attention to this matter! I never expected such swift feedback. :lol:
My error, A1 have to be black but i believe that the board has to be flipped anyway.
I am thinking that the white player is sitting on top on the "note chessboard" and on the right in the "real chess board".
If we want to have the board oriented correctly, we need (taken from the wiki): " The board is placed so that a white square is in each player's near-right corner."
Meaning that those 2 squares need to be white :)
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In fact, if you look at this pic and you check your real pic, you will see that in this pic the white king is on a black square and the black king is on a white square while in your real pic, you have white on white and black on black.
 

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My error, A1 have to be black but i believe that the board has to be flipped anyway.
I am thinking that the white player is sitting on top on the "note chessboard" and on the right in the "real chess board".

In fact, if you look at this pic and you check your real pic, you will see that in this pic the white king is on a black square and the black king is on a white square while in your real pic, you have white on white and black on black.

Oh no, you see, I set up my chessboard according to how the memo did it to find the contradiction.

You can see from the side of the photo that the White king is on the 8th rank and the black king on the 1st rank.

If we want to have the board oriented correctly, we need (taken from the wiki): " The board is placed so that a white square is in each player's near-right corner."
Meaning that those 2 squares need to be white :)

I've heard of this rule before actually (on WikiHow I think), but every chess board I've seen in my life has the A1 and H8 squares in black shade. Wikipedia's own article on chessboards has pictures of chessboards with Black A1 and H8 squares.

Even FIDE's illustration taken from its laws of chess, shows A1 and H8 as black... which means the squares alternate just as they do on the game chessboard -- which is in fact accurate.
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This means Dogen's chessboard is an accurate chessboard, assuming my corrected version with White on rank 1 and Black on rank 8.
Wrong! Turns out you're right, though the explanation was inaccurate. It's the perspective of Dogen's board that's inaccurate. See my follow-up post.
 

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Hi, first of all, congratulations and thank you for this excellent work, it's really fantastic! I was wondering if there is a patch with the game starting in Chapter 3, as I finished the last patch I downloaded. Somehow I can't do anything but starting in the beggining. Is there any other way? Can anyone help me? Thank you very much!
 

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Turns out you were right, there is something off about that board.

I think I have finally reached the crux of the problem regarding Dogen's board. A picture tells a thousand words and much more conveniently at that, so I'll spare you the verbosity this time around. :)

Due to the inability to resize full-res images on this forum,
I uploaded as to imgur an album, please click here.
 

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How can I play this in Drastic emulator? Start button screen kept freezing on me :(


EDIT: Nevermind. I got mine working. Didn't have to buy the Drastic :3
 

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Hey i'm having the same problem, how did you get it to work?

I downloaded a new version of Drastic (2.2.1 or 2.2.2, either of it will work). I got it patched (using LuckyPatcher) and ready and then play like I bought the full Drastic version in playstore. Works great.
 

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So lads I am trying to enjoy this game, after the first two cases it was brilliant by the 3rd Case I couldn't get pass the opening cut-scene. Then I thought screw it lets do the next case but it gets worse, I try to use evidence and some of the texts and pages are black. Even the places where you are meant to deduce in the rooftop. Is my patch outdated or what, I am using both XDelta and Beat.

Nevermind I am using new Desume which does this error lol :)
 

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