Hardware [PPOTW #33] Will you be buying a NEW 3DS?

Will you be buying a New 3DS?

  • Yes

    Votes: 287 41.3%
  • No

    Votes: 205 29.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 203 29.2%

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Yes, yes I will, and I hope millions will follow. The more dual analog adopters we have the better the chances that someone will finally release games compatible with this obviously superior setup. That, and I have 2 3DS'es anyways - I don't mind trading one for a far superior model.
 

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I've been so busy I didn't even hear about it.

Probably not; mine's still fine. I'm using it mostly for finishing those StreetPass puzzles...
 

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Still in doubt. I want one, I can spare the money, but I just don't want to reward Nintendo for their bullshit.
If I could buy one system and buy all the games I want without risk of losing them, I would.
But if I invest a lot in a digital games library and my new 3DS breaks down, I can lose them.
If I get one I won't make the mistake of getting a EUR version twice and probably go for a US one. Too bad I won't be able to get Japanese games then.
If Nintendo's eshop would be like the Apple Appstore - purchases linked to account, not device, and possibility to have stuff from multiple localized shops installed at same time on the same device - I would have spend so much more money with them by now.
Nintendo's policies make it immoral to give them your money instead of pirating.
 

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Yes. I really don't feel ripped off by this move from Nintendo. And that's coming from someone who bought 2 3ds and 2 3ds xl (<3 My Zelda special edition).
 

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Still in doubt. I want one, I can spare the money, but I just don't want to reward Nintendo for their bullshit.
If I could buy one system and buy all the games I want without risk of losing them, I would.
But if I invest a lot in a digital games library and my new 3DS breaks down, I can lose them.
If I get one I won't make the mistake of getting a EUR version twice and probably go for a US one. Too bad I won't be able to get Japanese games then.
If Nintendo's eshop would be like the Apple Appstore - purchases linked to account, not device, and possibility to have stuff from multiple localized shops installed at same time on the same device - I would have spend so much more money with them by now.
Nintendo's policies make it immoral to give them your money instead of pirating.
I don't really care for Nintendo's online distribution either, but saying it justifies piracy (that's what your comment boils down to) is a bit much. You can still go out and buy a physical copy or just order it online. I'll get a digital copy if there is no physical version of it, but other than that I'll stick to my physical copies.
 

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I don't really care for Nintendo's online distribution either, but saying it justifies piracy (that's what your comment boils down to) is a bit much. You can still go out and buy a physical copy or just order it online. I'll get a digital copy if there is no physical version of it, but other than that I'll stick to my physical copies.

I just really can't understand the thought process of someone who says "Because X company doesn't do what I want, I'm going to pirate the sheet out of them!" :rolleyes:
 

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I just really can't understand the thought process of someone who says "Because X company doesn't do what I want, I'm going to pirate the sheet out of them!" :rolleyes:
Yeah, a lot of people seem to seek self-justification for piracy. Ah well, nothing that is said will stop everyone from doing it, and it doesn't really hurt us. I just lightly encourage people to go the legal route, then stop pressing the issue. I don't like to press it to the point where a person will become defensive. Once people are on the defensive, people stop listening and everyone loses.
 

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I don't really care for Nintendo's online distribution either, but saying it justifies piracy (that's what your comment boils down to) is a bit much. You can still go out and buy a physical copy or just order it online. I'll get a digital copy if there is no physical version of it, but other than that I'll stick to my physical copies.


No, that's not what my comment boils down to. I'm saying their online distribution is so unfriendly for legitimate use, that I prefer to pirate. Because if you pirate, you don't lose games you paid for when you lose your hardware, you can play games from other regions, and most importantly you don't reward consumer unfriendly policies. I spend a lot of money on Steam, the Google Play store, the iOS App Store, and PSN. I would spend more on the Nintendo eshop if it would work in a similar way. And really it's a matter of principle that for example I don't want to buy Cave Story eshop because they release it 2 years later in Europe. This is due to a lousy publisher Nicalis, but also Nintendo's stupid rules that force publishers to translate in French and German before a release, even though a large part of Europe prefers English.

I just really can't understand the thought process of someone who says "Because X company doesn't do what I want, I'm going to pirate the sheet out of them!" :rolleyes:

Because I don't like company X's business practices, I feel no moral obligation to support them continuing those business practices by giving them money.
You might not agree, but it shouldn't be too hard to understand the reasoning.
It's true that a lot of people just use it as an excuse, the real reason they pirate is because they can and rather have things for free than to pay for them, but that's not everybody. Nowadays I usually don't bother with piracy and pay for the convenience of getting something though a good distribution platform.
 

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No, that's not what my comment boils down to. I'm saying their online distribution is so unfriendly for legitimate use, that I prefer to pirate. Because if you pirate, you don't lose games you paid for when you lose your hardware, you can play games from other regions, and most importantly you don't reward consumer unfriendly policies. I spend a lot of money on Steam, the Google Play store, the iOS App Store, and PSN. I would spend more on the Nintendo eshop if it would work in a similar way. And really it's a matter of principle that for example I don't want to buy Cave Story eshop because they release it 2 years later in Europe. This is due to a lousy publisher Nicalis, but also Nintendo's stupid rules that force publishers to translate in French and German before a release, even though a large part of Europe prefers English.
Boycotting something is one thing, but then turning around and pirating just makes you come off as entitled and the meaning is lost. It just sounds like an excuse to not pay money. Physical copies sound like a fine solution to me, as you can easily put them in a different 3DS and still play it fine. I'll buy smaller Indie games off of the eShop as they're fairly cheap, like Shovel Knight for $15. I'm fine putting up with some restrictions as long as the price is right. I would never buy a full price game on there, but luckily I have the option of just going out a buying a physical copy.

I wouldn't even say region restriction is enough to justify piracy. I get being against policies that are anti-consumer, but piracy is not the answer, boycotting will carry more weight. It takes time, but people will get fed up enough with this stuff eventually that companies will have to change their policies to continue making so much money.
 

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From Nintendo's perspective it doesn't matter if people boycot something or pirate it. They are not making any money of it either case. Boycotting instead of pirating just means you can't play the game. Nobody loses when you pirate something you wouldn't have paid for otherwise.

If I could buy Shovel Knight I would. If there will be a dump available before it's released in Europe, I'll pirate. I've already bought it on Steam so the developers made money on me. If enough people would do this, Nintendo would revise their eshop policies. In the music industry it has been piracy, not boycotting, that drove more consumer friendly online distribution, like mp3 without DRM, and new business models like streaming subscriptions. Unfortunately with games there are much more monopolies, exclusives and vendor lock ins. I can't buy Shovel Knight for the 3DS somewhere else instead of the Nintendo's eshop, I can't even get it for another handheld like the PSVita.
 

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From Nintendo's perspective it doesn't matter if people boycot something or pirate it. They are not making any money of it either case. Boycotting instead of pirating just means you can't play the game. Nobody loses when you pirate something you wouldn't have paid for otherwise.
From Nintendo's perspective it may not matter all that much (apart from the fact that you're clearly showing interest in their games) but to other people it just looks like "hurr free games", no matter what reason you may (or may not) have.
 

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Because I don't like company X's business practices, I feel no moral obligation to support them continuing those business practices by giving them money.
You might not agree, but it shouldn't be too hard to understand the reasoning.
It's true that a lot of people just use it as an excuse, the real reason they pirate is because they can and rather have things for free than to pay for them, but that's not everybody. Nowadays I usually don't bother with piracy and pay for the convenience of getting something though a good distribution platform.


Sorry to spoil your party, but in no way can you justify your actions just because you don't like a company. Let me simplify that for you:

I'm saying their online distribution is so unfriendly for legitimate use, that I prefer to pirate.

I don't like Best Buy's online store, so I'm going to shoplift at their brick and mortar store!

I don't like Walmart's wages, so I'm going to shoplift from their store!

See how dumb it sounds? You don't like what a company does? Then stay away from them. Pirating from them completely exposes your hypocrisy. Over at Gamefaqs the boards have been up in arms against the New 3DS for the past week, they have been complaining about the region lock, and you know what some posters commented about? That not a single one of them brought their complaints to Nintendo. And no one refuted those comments, because it's true.

So I don't have to understand that thought process, and never will. Moral obligation? Get out, when it comes to a consumer product, if you want something, you are obligated to buy it. Acquisition by any other means is, well, you get the picture.
 

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You incorrectly paraphrase and then comment how dumb it sounds. Do you know how dumb that sounds?

How would you know there aren't people complaining directly to Nintendo? Even if they're not, complaining on public forums and social media might me more effective because Nintendo can read that too. They have even more incentive to take what's said over there more serious than a few emails.

I'm not justifying piracy here. Thing is, even if all the reasons I mention wouldn't be an issue, I still have no moral issues with piracy in most cases.
Pirating is not like shoplifting or stealing. You make a copy, you don't remove the original from the owner. If you pirate something you otherwise wouldn't pay for (no matter what reason), there is no victim, and I don't think it's wrong.
Now in the case of me pirating a game I would otherwise eventually buy because it gets a very late European release due to stupid policies, there are victims, namely Nintendo and the publisher. I however don't think it's unfair because these are the consequences of their consumer unfriendly actions. As I said, if they didn't have these dumb policies and I could buy the game from the EUR eshop now, or from the US eshop, I would. Me pirating is against the law, but that doesn't necessarily make it immoral. If you think something illegal is always wrong because it's illegal, you really have a few steps to make in your moral development.
 

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I do not have 3DS. So, no, I wont buy it and I will wait for the next generation portable. This is ridiculous, really.
 

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Eh?

I own a 3DS and I'm not terribly pleased with it. Mostly from an aesthetic view (I own a regular purple one) it's just small and cramped. I'd like a larger one.

On the other hand I played Pokemon and SMT IV on it and have had no motivation to play anything else. The library feels extra bland. It might get some more play when SSB4 comes out but I have a couple of friends with Wii U's and I might just play it on that.

Plus it definitely is money grubbing.
 

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