Hardware New Faster Lighter 3DS Console Announced

Apache Thunder · Aug 29, 2014

This is the DSi all over again. It's a slight upgrade specs wise to the 3DS, but the confusion with customers means not many games exclusive to this one will sell very well. They will be forced to make hybrid games that have "New 3DS enhanced features" or something else stupid to that effect. So they will still work on the 3DS, but some features like higher FPS or 3D in more locations would be what to expect.(Future pokemon games might benefit from this though. Seeing that it only has 3D in some areas to to limited 3DS specs. Pokemon X/Y already has noticeable lag in double/triple battles even with 3D disabled. Enabling 3D in single battles causes lag in many situations as well)

But I think this is an ass backwards marketing thing they are doing. They are setting themselvs up for failure just like with the Wii U. The terrible name along with the bad marketing caused confusion among their target customers, so not many bought one. The same thing might happen with this.

They just tacked on "New" onto the name. Honestly with how well their 3DS is doing, they should have just waited a couple more years and then release a proper follow up console.

Given the time that separated the DS and the release of the 3DS, we are only 2 or so years from their next generation handheld console. This "New 3DS" is just some boneheaded marketing decision to try and milk people of their money before they release their next gen handheld a mere one year after they release this "New 3DS".

So ***king stupid and I have no plans on buying one.

weatMod · Aug 29, 2014

GameWinner said:
Why is the second analog so tiny?

worse than it being so tiny is it's placement so close to the hinge, the placement is a horrible idea , they should have put a bigger one under the buttons

the biggest pro i can see is a better 3d screen with more bars in the parallax barrier , wider 3d viewing angle, and i love the new upright charging cradle much better than the old design

Joe88 · Aug 29, 2014

Iwata running the company into the ground

chris888222 · Aug 29, 2014

Foxi4 said:
I hope for the opposite - if they want this upgrade to sell, they need to offer content that will sell it, unlike with the DSi (see above) to which I never upgraded because the exclusives were poor and I didn't care for them. That said, they need to support the millions-strong install base of the 3DS at the same time, so I expect New3DS-Enhanced games that will work on both systems. It has to be a delicate balance between supporting fans and stimulating migration to the new, upgraded system. Difficult, but not impossible.

I hope you get my point better now - I don't want Nintendo to drop the 3DS, that would be insane, literally cutting the branch they're sitting on. I don't want them to squander the opportunity to improve their games though, I want them to fully utilize the upgraded hardware.

I think a Pokemon game would be ideal here - one for each system, like it was the case with Mystery Dungeon, I believe. Both playable, of course, but one with vast improvements thanks to higher specs.

I think the biggest problem with the DSi is that very few 'huge' titles were actually made for it/enhanced. With Xenoblade, Nintendo is obviously trying to shake off that perception.

I personally doubt Nintendo will drop the 3DS that soon. What I really hope is for developers to truly make use of the updated hardware. The DSi was a terrible waste, but I guess they can make it up with many new-3DS-enhanced titles. There have been a few titles announced just now that are new-3DS-enhanced I believe (Smash Bros, MH4G...?).

Plus, the 3DS is region locked from the start. Hence, it won't face the same crap problem many faced when importing a Japanese copy of Pokemon Black/White.

Clydefrosch · Aug 29, 2014

booo hooo hooo.
if nintendos other consoles are any indication, the new 3ds wont get that many exclusive games for at least its first two years in business.
and even then, lets just say, its sales are bad. they're going to pull back on exclusive titles again because these games are most likely another step upward when it comes to production costs. they might eventually pull back, turning exclusive games into half exclusives with better framerate on new 3ds.

just stop jumping to ridiculous conclusions. they will never just kill off the 3ds. not even nintendo is so stupid, they know the 3ds user base is whats keeping the money coming right now.
at best, you can expect between 5 and 10 exclusive new 3ds titles in the first 2 years, less if the other companies start to act like bitches again. can you really not live without 10 titles?

Apache Thunder said:
This is the DSi all over again. It's a slight upgrade specs wise to the 3DS, but the confusion with customers means not many games exclusive to this one will sell very well. They will be forced to make hybrid games that have "New 3DS enhanced features" or something else stupid to that effect. So they will still work on the 3DS, but some features like higher FPS or 3D in more locations would be what to expect.(Future pokemon games might benefit from this though. Seeing that it only has 3D in some areas to to limited 3DS specs. Pokemon X/Y already has noticeable lag in double/triple battles even with 3D disabled. Enabling 3D in single battles causes lag in many situations as well)

But I think this is an ass backwards marketing thing they are doing. They are setting themselvs up for failure just like with the Wii U. The terrible name along with the bad marketing caused confusion among their target customers, so not many bought one. The same thing might happen with this.

They just tacked on "New" onto the name. Honestly with how well their 3DS is doing, they should have just waited a couple more years and then release a proper follow up console.

Given the time that separated the DS and the release of the 3DS, we are only 2 or so years from their next generation handheld console. This "New 3DS" is just some boneheaded marketing decision to try and milk people of their money before they release their next gen handheld a mere one year after they release this "New 3DS".

So ***king stupid and I have no plans on buying one.

i wanna facepalm so hard. I don't think brand naming gets any more userfriendly than 'NEW 3ds'.

Deleted-236924 · Aug 29, 2014

Definitely getting one.

Reminds me of the PSP, what with the PSP-2000/3000 having more memory (and faster CPU?) than the 1000

Apache Thunder · Aug 29, 2014

Much like the DS, the dropping of the 3DS when the new console comes out wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. (not this "New 3DS" garbage. I mean an actual successor to the 3DS like the 3DS was to the DS), then that new console will likely have backwards compatibility with 3DS games like how the 3DS had DS game compatibility. It's the timing the counts and I believe 2016 is close to where the 3DS has been out long enough that they can move on to a new handheld.

I don't think they will maintain compatibility across two platforms though (none of their past handhelds did) so the future successor likely won't have DS game compatibility. The DSi and 3DS don't have GBA access beyond a few Virtual Console titles and the DSi was the first to drop the GBA port. If their new 3DS successor is powerful enough, they might have DS games release on it as VC titles.

Not a bad thing for me, as I still own a DS Lite and if their future 3DS successor comes out and still plays 3DS games, there's nothing bad about it coming early. But the "New 3DS" is just another half-assed upgrade like the DSi, so no that one doesn't count.

The 3DS XL should have been the last revision they made for this console before moving on the successor. They are risking over saturating the market with too many verients of the same thing. We now have the 2DS, and the "New 3DS". This generation the 3DS got more revisions then the DS did. The DS got the original, the "Lite", then the DSi, and DSi XL.

Now we got the 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, New 3DS, New 3DS LL.

WTF Nintendo? Calm the *** down. Stop releasing revisions of the same damn thing. Whats coming in 2016? The Retro 3DS?

hippy dave · Aug 29, 2014

Looking forward to searching ebay for "used new 3ds".

Also, do you think this announcement makes now a good time to pick up a cheap circle pad pro? I guess we'll get more two-stick games, they'd surely make them compatible with the cpp, right? Right?

Steena · Aug 29, 2014

Foxi4 said:
A company enticing users to buy products?! What is this heresy?!

The heresy is that assuming buying a 3DS on day one for the sake of maximum length and usage time, I would have poured much more money on nintendo handhelds than my high tier PC in these last 3 years, were I to also get the New 3DS for full game compatibility. And my PC plays ALL the PC games, at 1080p/60fps at maxed out ultra settings barring two titles, which still play on high settings regardless.

I think that's a pretty good measurement for something going too far. When an underpowered console (a shitty 240p handheld about to bump up to 360p, if even that) cycle becomes more expensive than a well-updated PC, the historically top of the line choice for hi-end technology for the sake of being pricey.

I'm curious about this: what other line of hardware products in the handheld department 'required' you to invest $500ish within 3 years? And by 'required' I mean having the ability to play all the games. The PSP didn't. Previous nintendo handhelds didn't even get remotely close to that pricepoint. The Vita didn't. The latter being a much stronger piece of hardware than the 3DS, and is guaranteed to still be stronger than the New 3DS.
Not even most home consoles require you to pay that much in such a small timeframe.

Sorry if this insults your money-spending philosophy - but maintaining the ability to play low-end handheld games coming from a single manufacturer being more expensive than keeping up with a great rig in a direct price comparison should not happen in this universe, under any circumstances.

Ace Overclocked · Aug 29, 2014

Xenoblade is my favourite game of all time, i'm so pissed... i wanted it on 3ds for so long, got my 3ds at launch and now i'm way too broke to get this.
Any way, only way i could get this is if i sell my old 3ds but i gotta ask:
If i use my same NN account on the new 3ds will i still get my eshop and ambassador titles on the new one too?

Master Mo · Aug 29, 2014

I think this is a great update. I think the versions we had up until now were all versions of the same device which could live beside each other.

Thenormal 3DS was for porable people, 3DS XL for people who like to play at home or just like a bigger screen more and 2DS for cheap people xD

This though changes things drastically since it has more real features. And these are things the 3DS needed to be the ultimate handheld system.

Also these new models should render the old 3DS and XL obsolete so probably those won`t be manufactured from now on I think.

Deleted User · Aug 29, 2014

should have been called 3DSi and 3DSi XL/LL.

weatMod · Aug 29, 2014

can't wait for crown new3ds and a new fundraiser to decap the new 3ds chip

del_delly · Aug 29, 2014

Gaming4Ever said:
So older 3DS systems will be obsolete?

Just as obsolete as Gameboy -> Color was.
So not really. This is just like DS -> DSi as well.

heartgold · Aug 29, 2014

From 3Dbrew

Based on disassembly of certain sysmodules for code added/changed with in the 8.0.0-18 update, it appears that the "New 3DS" has the following changes:
They extended FCRAM from 128MB to 256MB.
They added another VRAM (?) of 4MB.

Looking into the latest firmware code, the New 3DS seems to have double RAM and more VRAM.

GameWinner · Aug 29, 2014

heartgold said:
From 3Dbrew

Looking into the latest firmware code, the New 3DS seems to have double RAM and more VRAM.

Nicccce.
Now I'm definitely getting one.

Haloman800 · Aug 29, 2014

Guild McCommunist said:
>Pokemon
>great

Choose one and only one. The last great Pokemon game was Gold and Silver.

>greentexting
>on GBAtemp

KingVamp · Aug 29, 2014

overdriver said:
this makes.. 2DS even more obsolete.

Now announcing the New 2ds.

Joe88 said:
Iwata running the company into the ground

Way to overreact.

Walker D · Aug 29, 2014

Well ..their next move needs to be releasing a expansion pack for the old 3DSes

(a la n64)

Foxi4 · Aug 29, 2014

Ace Overclocked said:
Xenoblade is my favourite game of all time (...)

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