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.. ps3 -games you ask ? hmm resistance fall of man , and mgs 4, gt, is what you have to look forward to - oh ff too i guess

look at mass effect - how do you feel not benig able to experience such a game? or bioshock - .... oh and gears of war --- which i must say is one of the most amazing games ive played ever -

come on now
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exclusive ps titles are becoming cross platform games --- not good for sony - nor is their price - power of system u say ? sony has more cpu power - 360 has more memory -

Gears of war wouldn't run on a ps3 - you know why. Not enough memory.. Thats not a good sign if a game like gow cant be played on a system like ps3 - In my opinion that really isnt something id be happy about it.


360 on the other hand ----

prey, graw, oblivion, splinter cell double agent, n3, condemned, saints row, just cause, dead rising, enchanted arms, marvel ultimate alliance, fear,

BLUE DRAGON
CIPHER COMPLEX
TOO HUMAN
CRACKDOWN
OVERLORD
DARK SECTOR
TIMESHIFT
HUXLEY
HEAVY RAIN
THE CLUB
FRONTLINES: FUEL FOR WAR
ALAN WAKE
JOHN WOO PRESENTS: STRANGLEHOLD
LOST PLANET
BIOSHOCK
MASS EFFECT
GEARS OF WAR
ARMY OF TWO
HALO 3
CALL OF DUTY 3
RAINBOW SIX VEGAS
VIRTUA TENNIS 3
THE DARKNESS
GTA
ASSASINS CREED


You do realize that the 360's ram is shared between the GPU and CPU right? it has 512, but the CPU and GPU use them both at the same time. So the CPU or GPU can't use the full 512 by itself.

PS3 has 256mbs of system ram, and 256mbs of GPU ram. But the GPU can access the system ram as well as its own. So it ends up being pretty much the same.

Oh, and you mentioned tons of crossplatform games btw. I bolded them for you.


1st.. Gears of War is not a fps

2nd.. As I stated before PS3 only has 256 mb ram...

Epic stated that there would be no way Gears of War would be able to run on the ps3 so your ram theory is dead in the water. 360s edge is there.

You say cross platform games? I did that on purpose, those games will look the same if not better on the 360 as its already been proven,, cod3, assasins creed....



If you have no idea what mass effect is ... its gona be grrrrrrrrreaaaaaaat.!

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/718/718963.html
Ok, let me attempt to put this in a way you might understand. WITH MSPAINT
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Is it just me or are these systems focusing to much on POWER and GRAPHICS. I have not played a game that I have just loved in a long time.
Ya, thats why I'm looking forward to the Wii, It introduces a new way for developers to design games. It welcomes innovation.....
Couldn't agree more - That's the reason I will be getting a Wii at the expense of the other 2 - I don't give a rats ass about having two-hundred-million-billion polygons onscreen at one time...... I want a game that is FUN TO PLAY !!! And the Wii with it's Wii-mote looks like it could even make a "Wiping-Your-Bum" game FUN
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This is also the reason I got a DS in the first place - it seemed innovative and fun, and bugger me if it isn't
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And before the flames start, I'm not a Ninty fanboy (I've never owned a GB or GBC or GBA - handhelds didn't appeal to me at all until the DS appeared on the scene) - If truth be told I'm actually a Sega fanboy
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sony has the money to pound out an infinate number of blueray discs


Sony had a disastrous year, ending up in a -90% profit compared to 2005, main reasons being the battery issue and other companies picking up the market on most of the electronic equipment.

So i wouldn't be so sure about that.
.... let me rephrase then... Sony is banking on the success of Blu-ray, and will do every thing possible to insure the success of this format...
 

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sony has the money to pound out an infinate number of blueray discs


Sony had a disastrous year, ending up in a -90% profit compared to 2005, main reasons being the battery issue and other companies picking up the market on most of the electronic equipment.

So i wouldn't be so sure about that.
.... let me rephrase then... Sony is banking on the success of Blu-ray, and will do every thing possible to insure the success of this format...
and just because they are seeing a loss of profit, doesn't mean they don't have a mountain of money anyway :\
 

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Is it just me or are these systems focusing to much on POWER and GRAPHICS. I have not played a game that I have just loved in a long time.
Ya, thats why I'm looking forward to the Wii, It introduces a new way for developers to design games. It welcomes innovation.....
Couldn't agree more - That's the reason I will be getting a Wii at the expense of the other 2 - I don't give a rats ass about having two-hundred-million-billion polygons onscreen at one time...... I want a game that is FUN TO PLAY !!! And the Wii with it's Wii-mote looks like it could even make a "Wiping-Your-Bum" game FUN
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This is also the reason I got a DS in the first place - it seemed innovative and fun, and bugger me if it isn't
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And before the flames start, I'm not a Ninty fanboy (I've never owned a GB or GBC or GBA - handhelds didn't appeal to me at all until the DS appeared on the scene) - If truth be told I'm actually a Sega fanboy
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Thank god people are agreeing. Yes the wii could make a "bum-wiping" game fun. But the most fun game I have heard about so far was... flashlight tag... maybe that was a rumor but it sounds like it would be fun.
 

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gexx your failing to see the point - but hope you had fun in ms paint
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lol. Ok, what is the point. Is it, THERE IS NO REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RAM?. Ah. Yeah. I saw that clearly. PS3 pretty much has 512 mbs of ram when it comes to anything graphics processing. The cpu itself doesn't need much ram in either case, so they are basically the same, other than the CPU can't access the GPU's ram on the PS3... If you understood anything about computers, you'd have known this by my lovely graph. But it would seem you are being blinded by fanboyism, so I'll leave you to it. Sure it has 256 mbs of system ram, and the 360 has 512. But the 360 doesn't have Vram, and instead uses the system ram as vram, while the PS3 has seperate ram. So think of it like this.

360 - 512 mbs of Sys Ram/VRam
PS3 - 256 mbs of Sys Ram and 256 mbs of VRam.

But perhaps you can't add.. 256 + 256 = 512. there. Have a nice day
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maybe you should work for epic ? the below is taken from an article - the quoted material from a member of the epic team..

Since Epic is working with the PS3 hardware and the Xbox 360 hardware could Gears of War ever work on the Playstation 3? “256 MB of RAM makes a huge difference. There is no way we could ever do Gears of War on 256, we had trouble fitting everything on 512MB

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gexx this is for you to: from the same site - maybe this will help explain the difference to you....

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You are right about having 512MB of total RAM in the PS3 it has 256MB XDR Main RAM for the main memory and 256MB GDDR3 VRAM.

In comparison the Xbox 360 has 512 MB of 700 megahertz GDDR3 RAM shared between the GPU and CPU.

I think you guys missed what he was saying, and the differences between 512 megs of dynamically shared ram (system and video) and 256 system/256 graphics.

The xdr is faster ram, but to say \”so technically the ps3 has more ram than the Xbox 360\” is not only plain wrong, its laughable. Aside from \’xdr being faster\’, the ps3 has other bandwidth issues that make that the extra speed pretty negligible compared to DDR3. Either way, your comment is simply untrue. Too much even, for jest or sarcasm.

Secondly, like Spencer has already pointed out, that was the epic guy talking about \’only 256\’, not Spencer. He said that because it\’s true from his standpoint. The maximum amount of vram availble for the ps3 ever is 256. The 360, on the other hand, can dynamically use more for vram and less for system if it chooses, so they can use much more for texturing and such than 256. It isn\’t to say that the ps3 can\’t run the game, it\’s just that the texturing would have to be handled differently. Either way, he was just saying that they only have 256 mb of vram to work with on the ps3, which is true.



Just to clarify something I never said that the PS3 or Xbox 360 has more or less RAM. When Preston and I were discussing the PS3 I asked him if Gears would ever work on the PS3 and he responded with the quote about the RAM.
 

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I'm pretty sure Epic is just blowing out their ass. With textures as good as this
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on UT07, I don't see why they would have any issues getting Gears on the PS3. But I'm certain Gears won't come to the PS3, because its licensed by MS. Mark Rein isn't god. :\

Also, I own a 360, just so you know, and my PC is rather High end, and gets upgraded often, so my 360 is currently gathering dust (Well, was. I got Gears though.). Most of the 360 games I'm looking forward to are coming to PC. But Gears is fun
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were talking consoles not pc gameing ---- but by your comments, your ps3 will gather dust as well. Its not my fault you rather game on your pc than a console system.

The fact that a programmer from EPIC made the comment about the ram is irrelevant I guess. You must know more than him?


aside that all the exclusive titles comeing to 360 wont be on the pc --

gears of war - exclusive
blue dragon - exclusive
too human - exclusive
crackdown - exclusive
lost planet - exclusive
mass effect - exclusive
halo 3 - exclusive
pgr3 - exclusive
saints row - exclusive
dead rising - exclusive
forza motorsport 2 - exclusive
infinite undiscovery - exclusive


many more exclusives too xbox 360 but are comeing to pc and not to sony
 

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There may be a whole bunch of exclusive 360 titles right now, but once the PS3 really gets up and going I'm sure they'll have a bunch of exclusives too.
 

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were talking consoles not pc gameing ---- but by your comments, your ps3 will gather dust as well. Its not my fault you rather game on your pc than a console system.

The fact that a programmer from EPIC made the comment about the ram is irrelevant I guess. You must know more than him?


aside that all the exclusive titles comeing to 360 wont be on the pc --

gears of war - exclusive - Like it.
blue dragon - exclusive - Rather not. Too childish for me, and never liked DBZ style chars.
too human - exclusive - LMAO. This thing is laughable. They had better fix it because if what they showed at E3 was the real thing, It could contend with most hilarious attempt at being the crappiest thing ever.
crackdown - exclusive - This isn't even laughable. I look down at this with remorse for all the lives wasted in its creation..
lost planet - exclusive - Sexah.
mass effect - exclusive - Somewhat sexah.
halo 3 - exclusive - It better be better than Halo 2. Cause I liked 1 better than 2, and being a PC gamer, if its worse than Halo2, then I have better things to play.
pgr3 - exclusive - Not much of a racing fan.
saints row - exclusive - Never much a fan of GTA. And this is a clone, so I'll pass.
dead rising - exclusive - Its ok. :\
forza motorsport 2 - exclusive - meh.
infinite undiscovery - exclusive - Damn. Tri-Ace :\ I may have to buy it. Tri-Ace is a thing of legend among the RPGness.

many more exclusives too xbox 360 but are comeing to pc and not to sony
Now that I finished underlining my opinions of those, I'll give you an exclusive list.

PS3

Genji: Days of the Blade - exclusive
Final Fantasy XIII - exclusive
Untold Legends - Dark Kingdom - exclusive
Resistance: Fall of Man - exclusive
Devil May Cry 4 - exclusive
Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire - exclusive
Full Auto 2: Battlelines - exclusive
MGS4 - exclusive
Ninja Gaiden Sigma - exclusive
White Knight Story - exclusive
Resident Evil 5 - exclusive
Gran Turismo HD - exclusive
Gran Turismo 5 - exclusive
MotorStorm - exclusive
WarHawk - exclusive
Tekken 6 - exclusive
Killzone 2 - exclusive
Final Fantasy Versus XIII - exclusive
Virtua Fighter 5 - exclusive
Lair - exclusive
Heavenly Sword - exclusive
Afrika - exclusive (whatever the hell it is >.
 

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Have you been reading the news? Devs have switched sides to the 360 because of the production cost for PS3 games, and I doubt that'll change soon. 360 has a lead because of it's cheaper production and it's already been out for a year, so right now current games are way better than launch day.

And I really think the only reason Sony can win is through uninformed media or it's legion of moronic fanboys. Now, I'm not a 360 fanboy, I didn't even own an Xbox or a 360, but TmP has said is right, we're just more informed, and we don't let Sony do the thinking for us. We make our own research, and we don't think that the PS3 is worth the dough.

EDIT: Genji? Check GameRankings and see how that piece of crab turd came out. GT HD? So I'm gonna BUY a cd for textures I can't even play? WHY? Honestly, most of those games I doubt will be good. The only decent games I can see being decent there are DMC4, FFXIII, MGS4, and Tekken 6. That's 4. That's not exactly worth 600 bucks is it?
 

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Have you been reading the news? Devs have switched sides to the 360 because of the production cost for PS3 games, and I doubt that'll change soon. 360 has a lead because of it's cheaper production and it's already been out for a year, so right now current games are way better than launch day.

And I really think the only reason Sony can win is through uninformed media or it's legion of moronic fanboys. Now, I'm not a 360 fanboy, I didn't even own an Xbox or a 360, but TmP has said is right, we're just more informed, and we don't let Sony do the thinking for us. We make our own research, and we don't think that the PS3 is worth the dough.

EDIT: Genji? Check GameRankings and see how that piece of crab turd came out. GT HD? So I'm gonna BUY a cd for textures I can't even play? WHY? Honestly, most of those games I doubt will be good. The only decent games I can see being decent there are DMC4, FFXIII, MGS4, and Tekken 6. That's 4. That's not exactly worth 600 bucks is it?
hey, I just posted a list. I didn't say they were all gems. Its not like all the 360's exclusives have all been gems either. And just so you know, I'm buying a PS3 because it has more games that I want. Not because Sony says so. I can make my own decisions, and based on the games coming out on PS3, and the games coming to the 360, PS3 just has more exclusives that interest me. And seeing as I have a good PC, that cuts the 360's lineup into shreds and only leaves me with a handful of games that would be worth touching. I'm planning on selling my ps3 after Lost Planet comes out, because my friend has a 360, and I pretty much just tell him about a game and he'll buy it, so I'm covered there.
 

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mm you dont remember sony lost the exclusive rights to re 5?

its comeing to a 360 near you......


too say too human is laughable - you are sorly mistaken --

you want to laugh at something - read up on the ps3's overall showing at e3 - it didnt do so hot :/
 

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mm you dont remember sony lost the exclusive rights to re 5?

its comeing to a 360 near you......


too say too human is laughable - you are sorly mistaken --

you want to laugh at something - read up on the ps3's overall showing at e3 - it didnt do so hot :/
lol. Too Human did look awful. But perhaps you didn't get to see the E3 Footage.

Looks like a bad version of Gauntlet with guns.

But apparently, they are fixing it, which is why it was delayed until Q1-Q2 2007. and didn't show at X06.

If they don't fix it, It will be laughable. I always want a new game to look forward to, so I hope they fix it, but as it is, it looks like Smash TV + Gauntlet, and I don't find that particularly next-gen.

Oh, and thanks for the RE news. it is crossplatform, but Sony never had any official exclusivity to it to begin with.

I enjoyed the showing from Sony at E3. I got to see Heavenly Sword and WarHawk. Some people might not have liked it, but meh, who cares? I liked it, so I don't really care that much about what other people seem to think.
 

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PS3 facts:

QUOTE said:
Two armed thugs tried to rob a line of people waiting to buy the new PlayStation 3 gaming console early Friday and shot one who refused to give up the money, authorities said.
More: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/US/11/17/plays...n.ap/index.html

And...
QUOTEIn the main legal (PS3) agreement (which takes about a minute to scroll through) it states that if your system breaks from a Sony-created download or update that they are NOT responsible.
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