Hacking EVO3ds: Possible new flashcart for 3DS games?

It's EVo3ds the new flashcart of the Gateway team?

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F417H

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Bastards just sent me an email lol, the same generic: "Thanks, we will let you know if/once beta testing is needed."

... A reply none the less, to a phishing email I sent them on 06/03/2014 lol. Someone is at their PC, I've mailed them back for comment on EVO. Not holding out hope :/
 

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My thoughts were that if it EVO=GW, they were using their (GW) site as a template whilst building the new one. There were far too many similarities between EVO's initial template and headers etc. I don't think they intended the public to see the site quite so soon and were just testing that the hosting was working correctly?
It is making less and less sense that it was a coincidence the GW fractal design popped up on their site. If they were at that time 'pretending to be like GW' for whatever reason knowing it hit public domain, it wouldn't make sense that they are now slagging them off for bricking code.

So many contradictions..


Gateway is also following the scene and thus this forum. You think they won't update a post message on the gateway3ds website if evo3ds wasn't their product?! Just to kill all the speculations?
Wake up! :wacko:
 

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Gateway is also following the scene and thus this forum. You think they won't update a post message on the gateway3ds website if evo3ds wasn't their product?! Just to kill all the speculations?
Wake up! :wacko:



Hard to tell given their track record with PR and communication with the customer base.

I'm still clinging onto a tiny hope they'll give GW customers a 2.0 all the same, EVO or not.
 
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Gateway is also following the scene and thus this forum. You think they won't update a post message on the gateway3ds website if evo3ds wasn't their product?! Just to kill all the speculations?
Wake up! :wacko:
They havn't done on the release of R4i, 3DSLink, Orange or MT either (at least not directly after the release).
 

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Gateway is also following the scene and thus this forum. You think they won't update a post message on the gateway3ds website if evo3ds wasn't their product?! Just to kill all the speculations?
Wake up! :wacko:

If Gateway are indeed following the scene, then surely they'd post an update, whether they are Evo3DS or not...
 

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Funniest thing I've seen in the homebrew section has been 'NO ROM LOADING IN HOMEBREW - BUT WE CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUR EMULATORS WORKING ON 3DS'... Like a GBA ROM is any less piracy than a 3DS ROM lol
I'd love Emulators on the 3ds, DSTWO made a decent effort but still doesn't run SNES games 100% perfectly, Mario Kart for example is practically unplayable even with the latest updates.

Best devices for emulators are tablets and PC's still, I rigged my Nexus 7 up with a DualShock3 and had a fine selection of emulators/roms. Still I'd prefer them on 3DS I think.
 

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Evo3ds videos seems somehow more professional than gateways lol, what if gateway have been clone of evo whole time?
 

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I just think if he opens it up for Homebrew developers it'll be made possible eventually, that's all.
I understand it, it's still a fairly new console, I just don't like it. Just keep your hopes grounded.
And it's more funny reading the flamish wars then posting a comment that might be misunderstood.
 

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I understand it, it's still a fairly new console, I just don't like it. Just keep your hopes grounded.
And it's more funny reading the flamish wars then posting a comment that might be misunderstood.



The flamewars keep us preoccupied whilst we wait for GW 2.0 :P


CRIIIIIIPLE FIIIIIIIGHT!!!
 

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IM sure they were people saying gateway3ds = MT card

HURR DURR new cart with new Features IT MUST BE THE GATEWAY TEAM DOING AND THIER EVIL WAYS.

If i was running gateway i would just let the people speculate all they want and focus on working on 2.0

Do we have any confirmation that they didnt build they own launcher btw?
 

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Funniest thing I've seen in the homebrew section has been 'NO ROM LOADING IN HOMEBREW - BUT WE CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUR EMULATORS WORKING ON 3DS'... Like a GBA ROM is any less piracy than a 3DS ROM lol
I'd love Emulators on the 3ds, DSTWO made a decent effort but still doesn't run SNES games 100% perfectly, Mario Kart for example is practically unplayable even with the latest updates.

Best devices for emulators are tablets and PC's still, I rigged my Nexus 7 up with a DualShock3 and had a fine selection of emulators/roms. Still I'd prefer them on 3DS I think.
Of course technically it's all piracy, but the main difference is that game companies make no profit on games for older systems anymore, unless they're sold digitally like on the eShop. Of course you could get it second hand somewhere, but that would only help the person you bought it from and your game collection.
 

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Also even IF gateway said were not evo3ds people would say HURR DURR gateway is lying.



Agreed, GW's only saving grace at this point it to release their 2.0 FW as they have promised their customers for so long. If they do that I couldn't give a fuck about EVO or future releases. The silliest thing is I don't actually play the 3ds much at all, for all the retail games I have for it I've played about half of them and spent approx an hour on each of the ones I have played.
God damned Nintendo, they get us with the nostalgia every time!
 

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Of course technically it's all piracy, but the main difference is that game companies make no profit on games for older systems anymore, unless they're sold digitally like on the eShop. Of course you could get it second hand somewhere, but that would only help the person you bought it from and your game collection.
Or, you know, the people who back up their GBA games (like me) that try to support nintendo as much as they can but also want freedom with their hardware lol.

Anyways, it's been a While guys, seeing smeal post his twitter messages reminded me to come here lol. Apparently great flame wars have been fought, looking at some of the contention.

So, can someone give me a rundown of what Evo is and who (or who you think made it based on EVIDENCE, not stupid assumptions) made it? I've been running fairly behind in the threads lol
 

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It's not about pressing "ignore". Relentlessly and viciously attacking devs hurts the scene.

Don't bite the hand that feeds you...

Right. Tell us all how mature you had been in that thread. The reason it got locked was because of people like you. Making a fuss over something without taking into the account of the full context. Everytime I see people like you making such responses, once in a while I will reply back with the other side of the story. Because you're just distorting things the way you feel is better in your opinion. Now before this gets derailed even further by the likes of you....

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The EVO3DS supposedly has an MCU (micro controller unit). Now based on b00100100 posts, one way to update the FGPA would be to send usb signals to the MCU which then updates the FGPA. The MT-card supposedly has a "CPU" which is most likely a MCU as well. Unfortunately since there hasn't been any clearer photos available of the MT-card, we are not able to determine which chip could possibly be the MCU. We however determined that the Actel chip does not contain a cortex-m1 cpu hence the "cpu" being referred to by MT must refer to something else and is likely a MCU. Now on the http://gbatemp.net/threads/speculation-current-state-of-affairs-for-3ds-flash-cards.363645/ The last couple of posts were making some headway into the construct of the current flash cards as the construct can provide some ideas as to the thoughts that were present during the development. However, it went severely off-topic due to certain trolls kicking up a dust storm. Anyhow... enough of that.

Consider this rumour/speculation by the chinese leaker
"GW actually was able to exploit 6.1 and run some game roms that were previously unplayable but however this required tge aid of an onboard CPU. However, the 1st generation GW card does not have a CPU, hence GW are trying to get rid of their 2 batchs of stock before these new features will land on flash cards with CPU (this not only applies to MT-Card but also the future GW card)."

The new evo3ds card claims to have a MCU, mt-card most likely have a MCU as well for FGPA updates. Now the real question is, what features require the use of the MCU because technically if the FGPA was preprogrammed with all the features already packed in, it might be redundant to include an MCU if no features require this MCU. If so, from a financial standpoint, it makes more sense to throw out a new card with new updates every now and then so they can get more sales.

Does anyone with any knowledge of circuit board electronics care to chime in on the other uses of a MCU? Also, if the MCU is sufficient to keep the card up-datable? I'm sure everyone on this forum is thinking, "will this card be updatable? will Evo3ds do a gateway and split with our money?". Understanding the physical aspect of this new card could help users here to make an informed purchase in the future.


UPDATE: http://forums.xilinx.com/t5/General...-s-spi-flash-with-microcontroller/td-p/238138

Some information about programming FPGA using a MCU
 

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Depending on how these next few weeks play out it may well be the current sales structure of 3ds carts. Wish GW would answer their emails... I've been lurking on some Chinese boards (thank Fuck for Google translate) - seems they are hating on both GW and EVO for this sort of tactic in updating. Their general census seems to be wait 6 months for the next competitor lol.
There is still the chance 2.0 comes out, considering 4.5 is still relevant to some degree (still a good fair amount of stock of 3ds with 4.x). Surely the first 6.x exploit cart would be screaming about it on every page.

Sorry if that didn't come out as coherent as it sounded in my head - sleeping pills and posting from phone.
 

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