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Here's some users from Maxconsole that got their 3DS bricked:

PhoenixBankai:
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...out-RMA-ing-your-Bricks?p=1670340#post1670340
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...tatement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page10/#94 (pic with checksum value)

I PM'd him and he said that he got the blue screen after exiting the GW menu with 2.0b2 firmware. It was his first time using the 2.0b2.

Asus:
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...Statement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page9/#87

Hanz (didn't post pics):
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...atement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page13/#126

Arthurcara:
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/threads/279840-Blue-Screen-Official-Gateway
 
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Yeah, I read about Hanz's brick, but I did not include that on this thread because I did not see a screenshot of it. That's really important in trying to determine who may be just crying wolf to fuel the flame, and who is actually bricked. Not that I don't believe him. Just that the purpose of this thread is to show how many people DEFINITELY are bricked, so no one else has to scour the entire intarwebz trying to find reliable reports.
 
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You can check the offical RMA thread over at maxconsole. This is where Gateway users have been reporting bricks. but why only offical gateway cards? I think it's wrong what gateway have done to the clone users. Should not all of the bricks be tracked? This is something Gateway has caused.

http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...es-Statement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page21


I agree with this.

While I understand that Gateway is attempting to protect their source code, how about instead of bricking users' game systems, just have the code detect the clone and then display an error message, something along the lines of:

/!\ERROR, unsupported hardware detected!/!\
The hardware you are attempting to run this software on is incompatible with said software.
Please power down your device and refer to [gateway website url here]/info for more information.

This incident has turned me off from buying anything from Gateway or any card manufacturer that uses Gateways' source code as a base for their product. At this point I'm most likely better off waiting for the eventual retail cart save game exploit or something along those lines to region free/homebrew enable my system.
 
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retrofan_k, could you please describe for us, in as great of detail as possible, exactly how your brick happened? What I am looking for is as follows, or anything else I didn't think of:

Last game played
EmuNAND or not
Wifi on or off
Coming out of Sleep Mode, or booting into Gateway Mode in the first place
Which version of the Gateway Firmware you were running
Size/Brand of SD card in your 3DS, and perhaps in the Gateway Red Card
Accessed the eShop or any other online features using EmuNAND?
Previous flash cart usage (any flash cart)

I am thinking that there may be more common factors among those with a confirmed brick than we are seeing at first glance. If nothing else, perhaps the experience of bricked users can help others to try to prevent being bricked, themselves.


---- Last game played on OFW 4.5E firmware before GW exploit was The legend Of Zelda Ocarina of Time EU version

---- Emunand is N/A, see description of brick below

---- Wifi Was always off even on OFW 4.5

---- See brick description below

---- 2.02b that was previously downloaded from GW official download page

---- Will check SD brand and update later. From memory it was a generic brand that came with the 3DS, yet the MicroSD was a Kingston 8GB 4 Class.

---- N/A because the 3DS was never used online since 2xx OFW

---- N/A because no previous flash carts used


Exploited the console as instructed using the blue card and copied the 2.02b launcher.dat to the SD, as I have done this before on my other GW 3DS so its not something I haven't done before.
Gateway mode screen boots via holding L on profile, etc, which I then back-up nand. However, afterwards I had an issue with the red card seeing the games that I wrote to the microSD using the Win32 Disk Image tool because nothing would show up on the screen after selecting GW mode.
I then did a diagnostic check with the GW test rom and the all the tests passed except for the SD, as it was constantly flashing blue for like 20 mins, so I then took out the RED card and cancelled the test.
Turned off the 3DS, took out the microSD and wrote the new "Zelda between two worlds" Rom to the card. Booted into GW mode screen again and did another Diagnostic test and this time the SD passed, as did all the other tests (all Green OK).
Came out of that and then selected GW mode, which then it hung on a black screen with the power indicator still on for like 2 mins. I then decided to manually shut it down by holding the power button till the LED went out, which it did
The 3DS BRICKED upon restarting on a Blue Debug Screen (BSOD) after I turned it back on.
The 3Ds was never exploited whatsoever with anything previously and was just recently updated from 2xx OFW (cannot remember the exact number but it was 2xx something) using an original Luigi's mansion 2 to 4.5 E
Emunand was never selected or used nor any roms played, as I literately had the GW card for like 30-35 mins until it bricked my system.

Update: SD card is a Toshiba 2GB
 

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Thank you so much, retrofan_k. That's precisely the kind of detail we need.

So, the last EMULATED game you played on it was Luigi's Mansion, before writing ALBW to your microSD, right?

Hopefully the others will see this thread and provide their experiences as well. I appreciate you helping the scene, brudda.
 

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In an effort to try to portray the Gateway bricking situation as realistically and accurately as possible, and to help cut down on the numerous topics to the same effect, I thought it might be a good idea to compile all reports of all verified bricks on one single topic that can be easily updated.

Since there are literally hundreds, if not thousands of posts on this same topic, I was going to ask for your help here, gentle Temp'ers. I know there are something like five or six reported bricks from Gateway users here on GBATemp, like kirrillov, apollooo, retrofan_k and (scariest of all) even one of the official product reviews for GBATemp, Devin.

If possible, I'd like to show the screenshots of the BSOD on this thread, as well, so the scene can see that the people reporting the bricks are genuinely bricked, and to dissuade any idea of a conspiracy theory.

As of this posting, though, I am able to find five-ish total reported bricks after a quick scan of the topics and comments on this forum. Please give me a hand and help me to get the most accurate number of confirmed bricks together in one place.

Thanks!

Here are the reported bricks that I have found on GBATemp, three with screenshots;

kirillov
http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-just-bricked-with-a-legit-gw.360799/

apollooo
http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-ing-bricked-never-even-use-clones.360657/

retrofan_k
http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-just-bricked-with-a-legit-gw.360799/page-11#post-4892640

Devin (Temp Reviewer)
http://gbatemp.net/threads/add-1-to-the-3ds-death-count-shall-we.360869/


Users from other forums; (thanks to PolyChrome)

PhoenixBankai
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...out-RMA-ing-your-Bricks?p=1670340#post1670340
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...tatement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page10/#94 (pic with checksum value)

"I PM'd him and he said that he got the blue screen after exiting the GW menu with 2.0b2 firmware. It was his first time using the 2.0b2." - PolyChrome via GBATemp Forums

Asus
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_fo...Statement-about-RMA-ing-your-Bricks/page9/#87


Arthurcara
http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/threads/279840-Blue-Screen-Official-Gateway


This brings the total number of confirmed bricks to seven. Another user, Hanz, reported a brick but has not yet submitted a screenshot for proof.


I'am Hanz over at maxconsole. I recently uploaded a photo there
 
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Thank you so much, retrofan_k. That's precisely the kind of detail we need.

So, the last EMULATED game you played on it was Luigi's Mansion, before writing ALBW to your microSD, right?

Hopefully the others will see this thread and provide their experiences as well. I appreciate you helping the scene, brudda.



No Problem. I just hope this gets noticed and believed and not shifted to clone only users, due to no official confirmation from GW, as they still stand their ground that genuine GW users are safe on 2.02b

The last game i played was Zelda Ocarina of Time (Original cartridge) I used Luigi's mansion 2 original cartridge earlier on the morning it bricked to update the OFW to 4.5 so I could use the GW carts, as it was originally on 2xx OFW. No emulated games where used, all official game carts.
 

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The fact that Devin got bricked eliminates any and all doubt that this is only happening to people using clones, or modified firmware.

Somehow, I do not believe he would have written as nice a review for Gateway if he had known that using their product would brick his console.
 
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I personally think it is interesting how his brick happened after a failed attempt to play ALBW, and then doing a diagnostic test that didn't work out. Is is possible that his brick was caused by a defective Gateway causing the launcher.dat check to fail? It seems unlikely.

From what I can tell, order of events:

1. Ran test rom without emunand - Errors
2. Couldn't get 3ds to recognize game(s?) in microSD slot (Gateway defective?)
3. Attempts to boot to emuNAND - Brick
 
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That's one of the things I have tried to do; boot into emuNAND as infrequently as is humanly possible. I think that triggering Gateway Mode is probably what is causing these problems in the first place, but I can't pin it down until we get more detailed reports from other affected users (thanks again, retrofan_k/Hanz for relating your experience).
 
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Thanks for making a sensible thread on this. If I was a mod here I'd be going mental trying to clear up all the trolling. Opinions on gateway/espionage/validity of users in every thread just makes it impossible to get to the actual information.

I don't know if this is/will be relevant... but I have noticed that the amount of time my 3DS takes to boot into emunand mode varies wildly between 3-15 seconds... It sits on a black screen for quite a while sometimes.

I have only played one game on the GW... A rom of my Link between worlds game. After every play session I fully power down the 3ds and I have ONLY ever used v2.0.2b. I was doing this to make sure the 3DS never ran out of battery while in emunand mode which (to my mind) seemed like a bad idea.

I suggest adding the following three things to your list of questions:

- Have you had any problems using the card in the past?
- Did you run debug mode recently?
- What is your normal pattern of usage?

The two people who have posted so far both seem to have been having issues with the card BEFORE it bricked. (Repeated black screens on boot / running diagnostics / failing diagnostics ). I, and I guess most people have probably been worrying that you just turn it on with everything fine and then BAM Blue screen of death.

Personally I will not be using my card again until the offical V2 is released. No matter how much of a hole my newly opened (but un-played) copy of Pokemon X burns through my desk.
 
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I already posted about my 3ds getting bricked, but I'll post a picture here so you know that mine got bricked as well.
IMG_3248.JPG
 

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Have any of the gateway users tried flashing their nand?

Are they all the same bootrom error numbers?

Are they the same bootrom error numbers as the clone bricks?
 

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