A handful of secondhand 3DS sent to them, say 5, would net them about, say, 600 bucks. It's fairly obvious that the hardware of the Gateway itself is very easy and cheap to mass produce. I'd say they have a huge profit margin on every item sold. Your statement that "they need to sell 5-10 flashkarts for every 3ds they could sell" is total bullshit. and the conclusion you drew from all these bad assumptions is of course false as a result. you act like there aren't at least ten people in the world left who could potentially buy ten more flashcards they'd be able to produce or still have in stock. you present the idea that their potential market base is as tiny as only ten people as it as some immutable truth, whereas in reality it is a crazy idea that only exists in your mind. I'm done arguing with you, you're delusional.
Hacking Gateway will fix any bricked 3DS for free, as long as you're not lying!
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A handful of secondhand 3DS sent to them, say 5, would net them about, say, 600 bucks. It's fairly obvious that the hardware of the Gateway itself is very easy and cheap to mass produce. I'd say they have a huge profit margin on every item sold. Your statement that "they need to sell 5-10 flashkarts for every 3ds they could sell" is total bullshit. and the conclusion you drew from all these bad assumptions is of course false as a result. you act like there aren't at least ten people in the world left who could potentially buy ten more flashcards they'd be able to produce or still have in stock. you present the idea that their potential market base is as tiny as only ten people as it as some immutable truth, whereas in reality it is a crazy idea that only exists in your mind. I'm done arguing with you, you're delusional.
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apolloooo was last online Today at 6:08 AM CET (European time)
check his profile, for EST time zone it will say 0:08 AM EST
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the repair announcement was given Today at 0:08 AM CET (European time)
6:08 PM EST = 0:08 AM CET on the _next day_ http://www.maxconsole.com/maxcon_forums/threads/279740-Gateway-3DS-Clones-Blue-Screen/page24 - which was copied & pasted into I believe apolloooo's thread minutes after.
so he was online a full six hours after the announcement.
Like hell I'd send my 3DS off to Gateway to get it fixed. I'm not gonna go and send my $400 imported console off to a (currently) shady team with the possibility that they'll just hold it ransom for $100 more (that is, if it were bricked, which it isn't). I'd like to know how they would even determine that someone was using a modded launcher or not. If they just check the SD card, then I hope they realize that people can just not include the SD card or simply overwrite the file.
This whole thing sounds very shady to me. After what they did, I'm avoiding them as much as I can. I might go back to using FW1.2 though, as that seems safe to use.
This whole thing sounds very shady to me. After what they did, I'm avoiding them as much as I can. I might go back to using FW1.2 though, as that seems safe to use.
That's here not there. From what his activities say on both forums, it looks like his computer is open but he's AFK. His activity there says he's reading the very announcement thread there.
So, I disprove your statement, and you move the goal posts? Aren't you exactly saying what I have been suggesting? He read the announcement thread and realized his game was up, went offline, his bluff having been called?
Also, regarding your "computer is open but he's afk" you should read into session timeouts in web development. If your browser is on page X, it doesn't really maintain a permanent connection to that website. Nor does that website hold a session open for your usage indefinitely.
Also, regarding your "computer is open but he's afk" you should read into session timeouts in web development. If your browser is on page X, it doesn't really maintain a permanent connection to that website. Nor does that website hold a session open for your usage indefinitely.
I don't get what you are saying. Are you suggesting a person can't return to webpage X once he has read it once? Not to mention the fact that a thread is not a static thing, but something that accumulates new posts... Where are you even getting the information that he is reading it "right now"? According to his forum profile, he's offline right now. That's how it displays for me.
There? On maxconsole you mean? I'm not registered there. I don't see how that fact is relevant, by the way. He could simply be preparing to repost what he posted on this forum there. Needless to see, this doesn't say anything about any legitimacy. If he is there making arrangements to send his device their way, great. We'll hear about the fate of his device soon enough, in this case. But he hasn't even commented on the announcement policy on this forum, and he's been online at least six hours since it was made, that was the point being made here. It's at least odd.
Considering the hostility the Gateway "supporters" gave him demanding proof and what not, I'm not surprised he hasn't gone back to his thread. Despicable how members were discarding the fact he is a known Gateway user, and now they are questioning why he can't send his unit in to them? It takes balls to shake the hand that shot you.
I don't think it's that. If he doesn't appear, it's suspicious. But my estimate is that he's simply doing something else. His lack of capitalization seemed to indicate a carefree personality.
Edit: The suspiciousness possibly being that rather than being a shill, the brick having been caused by something else. If he's so very carefree, this also is a possibility.
I think it's perfectly acceptable to demand proof, given the fact that is a time honored and well known tradition among flashcard companies to smear and spread misinformation about competitors. We're not saying he's a liar, just that we don't exactly have any reason to implicitly trust anyone on their word, per se.
Even if he popped up right now and said "I don't want to send it to gateway", I wouldn't hold that against him. I sure as hell wouldn't waste $106 sending my 3ds to some small shady Chinese company half way across the world and back ($53 each way), and risk it getting lost or delayed in china's shitty postal system, and again risk it being held ransom by gateway for another $100, when I can simply go on eBay or craigslist and get another 4.5 3ds for as little as $100.
Gateways absurd promise to replace consoles was a shitty ruse to stem the tide of bricking complaints. No one in their right mind would waste that much time and money and take a huge risk shipping something to them.
So what proof are you expecting from him anyways? That he'll take Gateway up on their word and ship off his unit to them? I bet if he simply said "yeah I shipped it to them" he'll still be demanded to show pictures of shipping label receipts and the tracking number and what not.
Guy just lost a 3DS. I may not know how it got bricked, but with the way Gateway has been acting on this bricking issue, and then coming out with the Brick Fix solution not long after apoloooo made his thread, yeah I think I'll watch Gateway with a raised eyebrow. And I'm just sitting back enjoying the drama without some popcorn
Btw, I just noticed something interesting. Gateway never gave their address to ship to, they just said get into contact with the vendor you purchased from.
So, if you bought your gateway used, your shit outta luck. Also, I find it incredibly shady that you have to ship your console to a third party, then they ship it to gateway. That's a recipe for disaster! Someone's console is bound to get lost sooner or later with a system like that. And if gateway are so "honorable" like they claim, why won't they give their address to ship to? The third party vendors give their address.
Again, as I said before, you'd have to be a fool to take gateway up on this "offer". It's a token empty gesture by them to stem the criticism, nothing more.
So, if you bought your gateway used, your shit outta luck. Also, I find it incredibly shady that you have to ship your console to a third party, then they ship it to gateway. That's a recipe for disaster! Someone's console is bound to get lost sooner or later with a system like that. And if gateway are so "honorable" like they claim, why won't they give their address to ship to? The third party vendors give their address.
Again, as I said before, you'd have to be a fool to take gateway up on this "offer". It's a token empty gesture by them to stem the criticism, nothing more.
I cannot believe you are this thickheaded.
Moving on the point I made was that people know what an R4 is but may not know what a flashcart is. They see the R4 name and trust it since they've used it before on their standard DS's with no issues and support (albeit mediocre at best). Bricking consoles is inexcusable. Copying code is also inexcusable.
Regarding the Apollo case, the guy PROVED already that he had a gateway. Do you really think he can literally get a gateway within 2 days after this shitstorm began? Come on now. Honestly think about what you're saying. Not only that but it was already proven he had a gateway before any of this shit started. Gateway themselves said that if you had their product that you would have ZERO chance of bricking. Well what happened? As I said before get your head out of your ass.
Man, so much contention in this thread.... Someone just has to look at the code from the source, and decide for sure what's going on here.
I don't even know why you guys are buying these flash carts in the first place.
I don't even know why you guys are buying these flash carts in the first place.
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@Xdqwerty, to answer your question, they're a fusion Brit-pop/J-pop/electronic band with a woman vocalist. Flamingo is hands down their best known song but they've got a ton of other really good songs+1 -
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For example, one of my other favorite songs from them, with some massive house music influence -+1
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