Sega is in the bidding for Atlus

ThatDudeWithTheFood · Aug 3, 2013

GameWinner said:
You still have to consider that Nintendo has a strong relationship with Atlus. I mean look, their handhelds have the Etrian Odyssey series, Shin Megami Tensei 4, Soul Hacker, the Devil Survivor series, Strange Journey and more. The Wii U is also getting the STxFE crossover. I don't really want Atlus being bought out by Nintendo (or Sony) but still.

They don't have the money to do it.

What's STxFE stand for?

Sega would be a lot better than Nintendo or Sony as far as I'm concerned.
They should pull an Activision Blizzard and buy themselves(if it's possible) from the company that owns them. They probably would've already done that if they could though.

GameWinner · Aug 3, 2013

ThatDudeWithTheFood said:
What's STxFE stand for?

Sega would be a lot better than Nintendo or Sony as far as I'm concerned.
They should pull an Activision Blizzard and buy themselves(if it's possible) from the company that owns them. They probably would've already done that if they could though.

Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem.

TyBlood13 · Aug 3, 2013

ThatDudeWithTheFood said:
What's STxFE stand for?

Sega would be a lot better than Nintendo or Sony as far as I'm concerned.
They should pull an Activision Blizzard and buy themselves(if it's possible) from the company that owns them. They probably would've already done that if they could though.

I'm pretty sure he meant Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem.

EDIT:

Also, why are you rooting for Sega? (I'm asking legitimately, not to troll since I'm rooting for Nintendo)

pokefloote · Aug 3, 2013

Nintendo wasn't even in the list of companies interested, right? Too lazy to check.

ThatDudeWithTheFood · Aug 3, 2013

TyBlood13 said:
I'm pretty sure he meant Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem.

EDIT:

Also, why are you rooting for Sega? (I'm asking legitimately, not to troll since I'm rooting for Nintendo)

Doesn't Atlus make exclusives for both Nintendo and Sony?
They could either continue doing that or some series would die or fans of the series wouldn't get to play them.
Imagine you bought a 3DS for Shin Megami Tensei but Sony bought it and instead released it on Vita?

Bladexdsl · Aug 3, 2013

pokefloote said:
Nintendo wasn't even in the list of companies interested, right? Too lazy to check.

doesn't say but at least 20 companies are interested, they're bound to be one of them.

TyBlood13 · Aug 3, 2013

ThatDudeWithTheFood said:
Doesn't Atlus make exclusives for both Nintendo and Sony?
They could either continue doing that or some series would die or fans of the series wouldn't get to play them.
Imagine you bought a 3DS for Shin Megami Tensei but Sony bought it and instead released it on Vita?

A good point indeed. But since I'm probably not going to buy a PS4 until the gen after most likely I would love it if Persona 5 was on Wii U. BUT THAT"S JUST ME. I know others might buy a PS4 just for P5 (or whatever else) and not want a Wii U, which is understandable.

I would agree with you but I just don't like Sega that much.

Ericthegreat · Aug 3, 2013

Satangel said:
Atlus is bankrupt?! Damn, that's sad. Such a quality company :/

Naw the company that owns atlus went bankrupt.

Idk how I feel about sega taking over it tho....

Canonbeat234 · Aug 3, 2013

For starters if SEGA can't take of themselves as a company without being hook up to a hub aka Sammy. Then why would they even consider buying Atlus? SEGA have not been doing very well and for the most part if SEGA is only going to cater their mascot, blue hedgehog. Then think about what SEGA will do with Persona and Sonic characters? Yeah...just let that sink in for a moment.

Pedeadstrian · Aug 3, 2013

Foxi4 said:
Oh yeah, especially with Lionhead Studios ("Fable", "Black & White", previously Bullfrog, makers of "Syndicate", "Populus" and "Magic Carpet"), Twisted Pixel Games ("Gunstringer", "'Splosion Man"), Rare Ltd. ("Banjo Kazooie", "Perfect Dark", "Viva Piñata!"), totally 100% dudebro developers.

Lionhead Studios: Released B&W in 2001, Fable in 2004. Aquired by Microsoft in 2006.
Bullfrog: Never made any games for Microsoft. Them later becoming Lionhead means nothing.
Twisted Pixel: Released Splosion Man in 2009, and Gunstringer in Sep. 2011. Aquired by Microsoft in Oct. 2011.
Rare Ltd. Released Banjo Kazooie in 1998, Perfect Dark in 2000. Aquired by Microsoft in 2002.

The only game you mentioned that was actually made when owned by Microsoft was Viva Pinata, and while I thought it was an okay game, I don't think it means Microsoft isn't a dudebro company. They may have published some decent games, but that's a different story.

shakirmoledina · Aug 3, 2013

if nintendo bought sega and they would change their name, what would it be?
nintendo + sega = ?

Pedeadstrian · Aug 3, 2013

shakirmoledina said:
if nintendo bought sega and they would change their name, what would it be?
nintendo + sega = ?

It's not SEGA that's being bought, it's Atlus.

trumpet-205 · Aug 3, 2013

Honestly, I prefer Sega or Sony to take over Atlus. Nintendo has always focused on first party game orientated toward family and casual gamer. I just don't see how Atlus will benefit Nintendo to a great degree.

Nathan Drake · Aug 3, 2013

I would prefer if Sega or just about any third party developer buy them that's willing to let them continue to produce games as they have in the past. Limiting Atlus to a single platform would likely murder certain series. I don't want to see them relegating every release in the future to a single console, but rather, distributing them as they have been. Preferably, whoever purchases Atlus will leave them completely as is and do nothing but leech off the profits like any parent company would.

SparkFenix · Aug 3, 2013

If Nintendo/Sony buy Atlus does it necessarily mean that SMTIV/P5 will change platforms? Atlus already has a contract for those games right?

FAST6191 · Aug 3, 2013

SparkFenix said:
If Nintendo/Sony buy Atlus does it necessarily mean that SMTIV/P5 will change platforms? Atlus already has a contract for those games right?

That gets tricky. There are many cases of third party developers being approached to develop for a console with certain incentives/penalties for delivering or delivering by a given date. On the other hand it would not be the first time a developer has been taken over and the ones doing the takeover, despite having a vested interest in not allowing something to happen, have released a game for another console. The could also scrap it for a given console and port the assets and whatever else over to another console.
However for the most part a game dev will buy a license to make games for a console and then the console makers will further charge for/take a cut of the games when they are eventually released. There is nothing necessarily binding them to a console for a given game.

Re the sega stuff.
People the financial statement is there for all to read in English, it includes a breakdown of their assets and even their odd little bond thing they are doing (if it works then they will have a serious cash injection). The short version is that Sega are seemingly quite well into the black and quite likely with some cash/assets on hand.
http://www.segasammy.co.jp/english/pdf/release/2014031q_tanshin_e_final.pdf (warning PDF).

Pedeadstrian · Aug 3, 2013

SparkFenix said:
If Nintendo/Sony buy Atlus does it necessarily mean that SMTIV/P5 will change platforms? Atlus already has a contract for those games right?

SMTIV is already out. Unless you meant the main series. It seems likely that if Sony were to buy Atlus, the Nintendo-based series would switch to Sony-based ones, and vice versa, but like you said, it may already be too late for some games in early development or soon to be in development.

There's a chance Sony or Nintendo will let them keep their series on their respective consoles, but there's also the possibility that neither of those companies buys Atlus, in which case they should be safe.

LockeCole_101629 · Aug 3, 2013

they made few good games

I love most their RPG/RTS
I just don't remember how many hours I spend on Disgaea (on PS2, DS version is really chasing me away)

but most their games are really underrated, lack of promotion (ex: Radiant Historia anyone heard of it?)

but then again... since I have no idea how they are doing in "gaming" department... But with all new releases I think they are doing fine, maybe they are doing well but the son of company owner probably is a douche who spent too much.

TemplarGR · Aug 3, 2013

SEGA is one of the worst publishers in business. They have ruined many studios they bought, for example Creative Assembly, Sports interactive etc... After their acquisition, they focused on superficial improvements like graphics etc while gameplay and value for money went downhill for their franchises. They put microtransactions in Football manager and thousands of dlcs that should be in game in total war series...

All in all, SEGA will destroy ATLUS in order to milk it, any other publisher will be better than SEGA...

mightymuffy · Aug 3, 2013

Pedeadstrian said:
It's not SEGA that's being bought, it's Atlus.

There were rumours (like there seem to be on a weekly basis) that Nintendo were planning to buy Sega. Can't see it happening ever though, unless Sammy go bankrupt, then I could see Nin buying Sega up, or at the very least some/all assets... IF that ever happened we'd likely see the Sega name continue as a 2nd party... Anyway that's beside the point!

Sega buying Atlus? Nice thought, not sure it'll happen. Sony? Ditto, maybe... Nintendo out of those three would look the most likely. Personally as long as Atlus don't get butchered as a result I'd be happy with any of those three. Now if Square-Enix are an interested party and get the decision then Gawd, RIP Atlus. (Look what happened to Taito - plus they're a set of whiny bastards anyway, like Capcom. Fukk, hope they're not bidding either hehe!)

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