GBAtemp.net EXCLUSIVE: DS-Xtreme *Update*

Prema

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Could you guys link me to the G6DS news? I don't see it on the yyjoy.com front page, but I don't read japanese on the other hand. Is it just an announcment without pics?

Here, but it´s chinese
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http://www.yyjoy.com/yy/?p=1166#comments
 

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Yeah those dumb bastards at Nintendo -- what the hell were they thinking leaving the DS slot open too?! They should have just filled any openings in the plastic because the DS Lite is ALL about looks -- screw the gaming!
 

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well since i live in europe my choice of shops are alittle more limited
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i was checking shop.01media.com

m3 + passkey 2 bundle = 99€
then i would need a sd card and a reader/writer

reader/writer ive found the cheapst in shops = 27€
then the sd card a 512 mb one is 40€

in total thats 166€ (211$usd)


you really don't have to pay that much... a lot of online stores based in the US or Asia will sell the same stuff for a lot less, even with shipping to Europe included.

eg. from hopebuy.com:
M3 Perfect (mini-sd version): US$63.90
Super Pass: US$19
23 in 1 Card Reader: US$7
total = $89.90 = €70.64

from mymemory.co.uk (ships to most european countries):
512MB Kingston MiniSD: UK£10.99 = €16.37

In total, €87.01 - plus postage and everything, shouldn't come to more than €110. And you could knock about 10€ off that if you went for a Supercard instead of M3.

edit: i might also add that hopebuy have the best excuse for high shipping costs EVER. hopebuyMaybe you will complain our postage too expensive, but it is similar to the innate character of the game. You can share with your friends with this fun: to buy together and share the postage & money transfer cost .
 

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So no news of a plastic thingy to cover up the usb-connection? Shallow as it may be, that is a deal-break for me. I don't want my DS lite exposing its innards like a cheap tart!

What about the power port on the back of your DS? Maybe you shouldn't have bought a DS Lite because it's visible?
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Two wrongs doesn't make a right, you know!

Thanks for the link Prema and beedog19. I can't access it now, but from what I remember it said that they have been working on it for some time and it will be released in mid-october. It will be available in 4Gb and 8Gb and will be USB 2.0 compatible.

It also said in bold at the end that the news have been confirmed, so I think it's legit. From my limited experience, pictures of new flash-cart products appear a few weeks before release so I expect pics to surface in the middle of september maybe(?).
 

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bollocks: well if i buy outside europe theres a pretty good chance it will be taken in customs and that can only add alot up in price and have me do a hell of peperwork and stuff to get it out.
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The 100% Homebrew Compatible statement was a miss-interpretation. It actually means "The guys behind DS-X are fully (100%) supporting the Homebrew Community" - Now i am not saying the DS-Xtreme is less compatible with homebrew then 100%, or more - I simply am saying the compatibility ratio on Homebrew has not been officially announced.

I've contacted shaun to change that also... Sorry for any confusion this made, it is entirely my fault and i take the blame for it. You can check out the thread in the DS-Xtreme section where i actually explained it somewhat more indepth how this "missinterpretation" happened.
 

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Well, i'm not 100% knowledgeable of mini usb-b, i do know for the most part about USB: There are pins for transmitting power (how else do you think you can plug a jumpdrive in where theres no battery), ground pin, and data transfer pins. I found this site in German which shows which pins are witch (i dont speak german so its confusing) http://www.hardware-bastelkiste.info/usb.html

I don't know about everyone else here, but i take my DS everywhere. I play in the light rain. My pants often get totally soaked when it rains because i don't believe in umbrellas. While jumpdrives have covers, this doesn't. And my DS is on 24/7. (Almost unbelieveable, huh?) But when it rains in south florida, it pours, and if water touches and bridges the pins in this card, i might have a fried DS card thing, or (a whole fried DS)!

So i'd really like to see them add a little rubber coverer over the USB because that can be a problem to some other people (besides me maybe)

Also since USB carries power, (5V i think) how would this card respond to taking power from the pins in the DS Slot-1 and the pins from the USB? This may be too much (i don't know all the electrical jargon, sorry) power and fry the chip!

So until DS-X Guru (or someone else) can tell me how they're gonna deal with these power surges (some onboard whatever and rubber cover) you have ONE really unsatisfied potential customer.

If anyone else can post a link to a chart explaining USB pins, I'd be grateful.

Also if anyone can explain which DS pins are for what would be cool. So would extra specs on how fast we can expect read/write speeds (even though i'm patient; still using a slow-speed SD)

**I worry not about the power connector, for it only recieves power, and does not have any problem being branched, unless it was branched while its charging. Usually when it comes time to charge the DS, the contacts are dry.
 

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The DS Lite itself has a power port and two headphone ports that are uncovered. That makes 3 ports on the DS Lite that is uncovered. Maybe you should be more worry about those first.

In my opinion, I don't think there is anything to worry about. All cell phones have at least 1 open connector port, usually for the charging, but some have exposed headset ports also, but some of them are uncovered. Phones are most likely carried in pockects than DS Lite, but I haven't heard of any cases of cell phones or DS Lite being shorted yet.
 

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I don't have a DS lite, and those are on the bottom. Water falls off the DS before it gets down there. In a wet pocket, the contacts are actually more inside of the DS (can you REALLY see the contacts for the headphones?) But the other connector next to the headphones are never going to be used by me, so a way to protect that (and differentiate my DS from other people's) i just put a little dab of glue and covered it up.

Cell phone charging contacts only recieve power, and i don't think people will charge a wet cell phone. And all the cell phones i've ever owned and seen have a covered headset jack (i have no clue about razrs tho)

My main question though is how will it deal with recieving power from the DS slot1 and the mini usb? For water bridging/shorting i could just stick a wedge of styrofoam in it. I just wanted to know what DS-Xtreme is going to do about it.
 

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I don't have a DS lite, and those are on the bottom. Water falls off the DS before it gets down there. In a wet pocket, the contacts are actually more inside of the DS (can you REALLY see the contacts for the headphones?) But the other connector next to the headphones are never going to be used by me, so a way to protect that (and differentiate my DS from other people's) i just put a little dab of glue and covered it up.

Cell phone charging contacts only recieve power, and i don't think people will charge a wet cell phone. And all the cell phones i've ever owned and seen have a covered headset jack (i have no clue about razrs tho)

My main question though is how will it deal with recieving power from the DS slot1 and the mini usb? For water bridging/shorting i could just stick a wedge of styrofoam in it. I just wanted to know what DS-Xtreme is going to do about it.


its not because theres a usb port on the card that the pins that are used for power are actually beeing used.
they might aswell be *not* connected to anything inside the DS-X
 

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Man Hajaz, you make it sound so obvious! *hits head*
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I'd still like to know what's really going to happen about this. 'Cause i have a feeling some people are going to just want to have the flashcart connected or something else. I'll probably find out weeks after the "offical" release because most people probably wouldn't consider reviewing about that.
 

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Well, i'm not 100% knowledgeable of mini usb-b, i do know for the most part about USB: There are pins for transmitting power (how else do you think you can plug a jumpdrive in where theres no battery), ground pin, and data transfer pins. I found this site in German which shows which pins are witch (i dont speak german so its confusing) http://www.hardware-bastelkiste.info/usb.html

I don't know about everyone else here, but i take my DS everywhere. I play in the light rain. My pants often get totally soaked when it rains because i don't believe in umbrellas. While jumpdrives have covers, this doesn't. And my DS is on 24/7. (Almost unbelieveable, huh?) But when it rains in south florida, it pours, and if water touches and bridges the pins in this card, i might have a fried DS card thing, or (a whole fried DS)!

So i'd really like to see them add a little rubber coverer over the USB because that can be a problem to some other people (besides me maybe)

Also since USB carries power, (5V i think) how would this card respond to taking power from the pins in the DS Slot-1 and the pins from the USB? This may be too much (i don't know all the electrical jargon, sorry) power and fry the chip!

So until DS-X Guru (or someone else) can tell me how they're gonna deal with these power surges (some onboard whatever and rubber cover) you have ONE really unsatisfied potential customer.

An open USB connector is the same as the already open power connector on the back of your DS. There's nothing to do with power going on there until you PLUG IT IN somewhere. The USB port only uses the 5V pin to carry current when connected to a computer. While the DS-Xtreme is plugged into your DS the USB port would be effectively dead, just like the power port.

That being said, if you play in the rain with the already open power connector (and I'd assume you have somethin in both the DS slot & the GBA slot to keep water out of there too) and your DS hasn't already retained water and fried when you plugged in it, that you would have nothing to worry about. You shouldn't play with any electronics in the rain (unless they're specifically waterproof) so if you do that and your equipment gets ruined, you can't blame the DS-Xtreme team for not providing a cover - you're the one that took the product outside of it's expected usage conditions. If you're going to do that, it's your responsibility to cover all open ports.

I'm sure if DS-X Guru reads this he may suggest for the sake of your sanity that a cover that plugs into the USB port is a good idea - but failing that, it does not generate power on it's own, so leaving the plug uncovered is the same as leaving any other open port of your DS uncovered.
 

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Who would play with any electronic device in the rain? O.o
I'm pretty sure that you can get a rubber thingy or a plastic thingy to protect your usb-b slot from an electronic store.
 

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Well I have just pre-order mine here in the UK.

I dont even have a DS yet. I used to have one, but sold it for a PSP. The I sold the PSP for a GP2x, but if I can now play NDS games with minimal of fuss, then I will gladly go out and buy a DS Lite.

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