'Scribblenauts' creator Warner Brothers sued for Nyan Cat, Keyboard Cat easter eggs

Dork · May 4, 2013

Maxternal said:

Reported to the authorities.

MarkDarkness · May 4, 2013

Hell... these bastards will just manage to make it so that future Scribblenauts will be barred from having cool little easter eggs because of their stupid, completely unfunny meme that simply means shit. Warner will certainly be on the developer's tails about anything and everything. Nice.

Rydian · May 4, 2013

ITT: I don't think it's funny, so fuck their totally-legal-and-filed copyrights.

Veho · May 4, 2013

koimayeul said:
While the original idea is the creation of one person, the real work is done by people sharing the funny stuff, it growing in popularity makes it a potential meme. So yes, making profit out of other people work, here the internet folks all around the world sharing funny stuff is greedy, definitely.

Ah, so the credit for a piece of work belongs to the people that reblog it, not the author him/herself? And if the author wants recognition or compensation when someone else profits off his work, he's a "lazy ass" and "greedy" because he wants to "make profit" off of all the poor, exploited internet users that reblogged his work?

koimayeul said:
The copyright on meme is a first time, granted it could not exist without the work of popularity growing within internet communities.

The copyright on a video or an animated short is not a "first time". But apparently when something becomes widespread it gets dubbed a "meme" and instantly becomes public domain.

So they want to be credited for it in the game? This is fair. To get money? Not fair unless it is spread all over the net to reward real "workers" making meme unknown to popular.

Let's recap, shall we? The author of a piece of work isn't entitled to any form of recognition, because all he/she did was make it, the people forwarding it around did the "real work" and it is them who deserve to be recognized, and if any profit arises at some end, paid. Because paying only the author would be "unfair".

So let's say a company wants to include Gangnam Style into their game. Basically you are saying they don't need to pay Psy any royalties, because all he did was make the song, " the real work is done by people sharing the funny stuff". And if he complains about not being asked, he's a lazy ass. And that's a perfectly okay way of seeing it because the song is annoying.

MarkDarkness said:
Hell... these bastards will just manage to make it so that future Scribblenauts will be barred from having cool little easter eggs because of their stupid, completely unfunny meme that simply means shit. Warner will certainly be on the developer's tails about anything and everything. Nice.

I know, right? It's terrible how creators don't like their work being used in commercial products without their permission, the entitled bastards. Now future Scribblenauts will have to, *GASP*, ask first before using someone else's work. Disgusting.

terminal_illness · May 4, 2013

I think memes shouldn't be copywritten. I also think creators of said memes should be flattered that they are even considered to be part of a game that supposedly allows you to create "whatever you want". To be even considered as part of the real universe. lol

Joe88 · May 4, 2013

I wonder if google got permission to use it as an easter egg in ics?

koimayeul · May 4, 2013

Veho said:
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I just notice you skip my last comment purposely to burden me with argumentative stuff, like i embody WB or something to prove your point.. Commercial software such as Scribblenauts Unlimited can't exist if its has to pay for each and every item in the game, get real.. Pay for the use of countless words to pop up on screen.. Yes, WB should ask and give proper credit, or a disclaimer for using copyrighted content, fix it with a patch if it isn't done yet, and pay authors on advertised IP's promoting their product with artwork and trailers if it wasn't done. Though if it wasn't advertised but easter egg as i first read and care less to check further being no lawyer, a patch to fix it crediting authors or adding a disclaimer, or remove the content from the game suiting original author's will should be well enough, otherwise i call it greed. That's all i say.

Gahars · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
I think memes shouldn't be copywritten. I also think creators of said memes should be flattered that they are even considered to be part of a game that supposedly allows you to create "whatever you want". To be even considered as part of the real universe. lol

A meme can be anything that becomes popular online. Should the copyright on Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" be void because people like it? Should NBC void their rights to Seinfeld because everybody likes the Costanza face? Should the creators of Nyan Cat give up what they took time and effort to create it because everyone shared the link for a month?

Also, the "They should just be grateful!" line of thinking is so laughable it warps around to being just a little bit sad. I mean... seriously? Seriously?

terminal_illness · May 4, 2013

Gahars said:
A meme can be anything that becomes popular online. Should the copyright on Rick Astley's "Never Gonna Give You Up" be void because people like it? Should NBC void their rights to Seinfeld because everybody likes the Costanza face? Should the creators of Nyan Cat give up what they took time and effort to create it because everyone shared the link for a month?

Also, the "They should just be grateful!" line of thinking is so laughable it warps around to being just a little bit sad. I mean... seriously? Seriously?

That's my opinion. You have yours. I wouldn't say "give up" but instead "not whine", after all it's at the least more publicity for their respected material. Maybe a kid sees nyan cat on scribblenauts, tells all his friends and youtube views go up, and more revenue is acquired from youtube to the owner.... there are many ways to look at it...

Veho · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
I think memes shouldn't be copywritten.

I think games shouldn't be copyrighted.

terminal_illness said:
i wouldnt say "give up" but instead "not bitch" after all, its at the least more publicity for their respected material.

That's basically my justification for piracy.

Gahars · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
That's my opinion. You have yours.

And?

That's not a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to justifying your viewpoints.

terminal_illness said:
I wouldn't say "give up" but instead "not whine", after all it's at the least more publicity for their respected material. Maybe a kid sees nyan cat on scribblenauts, tells all his friends and youtube views go up, and more revenue is acquired from youtube to the owner.... there are many ways to look at it...

Breaking the law is breaking the law no matter how much publicity the original creators garner. Making excuses for WB here is beyond ridiculous; they should absolutely know better. Asking the creators to feel grateful for being ripped off is just adding insult to injury.

terminal_illness · May 4, 2013

Gahars said:
And?

That's not a "get out of jail free" card when it comes to justifying your viewpoints.

Breaking the law is breaking the law no matter how much publicity the original creators garner. Making excuses for WB here is beyond ridiculous; they should absolutely know better. Asking the creators to feel grateful for being ripped off is just adding insult to injury.

Out of jail? I agree that what was done was against the law. However I don't see any insult OR injury here. In fact like the comment I said earlier, I'd say they benefited much more from the publicity of WB including them and from this silly lawsuit.

Gahars · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
I agree that what was done was against the law.

terminal_illness said:
however I don't see any insult OR injury here.

So we shouldn't hold people and companies accountable to the law?

Okay, buddy.

tbgtbg · May 4, 2013

I would think there's a fair use argument here since they're (I assume) using these as parody.

Meanwhile, jerkwads suing over everything is why we can't have nice things.

terminal_illness · May 4, 2013

Gahars said:
So we shouldn't hold people and companies accountable to the law?

Okay, buddy.

Yeah that's right. That's exactly what I said....

just because I think the law is stupid doesn't mean it doesn't exist... and just because I said I don't think there was any injury per se, does not mean the authorities don't.

just because a law was broken doesn't necessarily mean there was ANY injury.

koimayeul · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
terminal_illness said:

Yeah that's right. That's exactly what I said....

just because I think the law is stupid doesn't mean it doesn't exist... and just because I said I don't think there was any injury per se, does not mean the authorities don't.

just because a law was broken doesn't necessarily mean there was ANY injury.

Click to expand...

Because this is the Internet. There is no such thing as a dialog or discussion, only verbal fights. You win an argument on having the last word. You have to explain yourself to others, and justify your viewpoints. I kid you not!

terminal_illness · May 4, 2013

koimayeul said:
Because this is the Internet. There is no such thing as a dialog or discussion, only verbal fights. You win an argument on having the last word. You have to explain yourself to others, and justify your viewpoints. I kid you not!

lol so true. back on topic. I fired up my scribblenauts. nyan cat doesn't even look 100% the same, its adapted in scribblenauts drawing style.

Gahars · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
*snip*

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tbgtbg said:
I would think there's a fair use argument here since they're (I assume) using these as parody.

Not really, no.

koimayeul said:
You have to explain yourself to others, and justify your viewpoints. I kid you not!

It's almost as if that's expected in any debate, online or off. Weird...

purplesludge · May 4, 2013

Would you feel the same if this had been Batman or Mickey Mouse?
If corporations want laws to protect their ip they have to obey those laws and obtain permission and pay the price to use ip that isn't theirs.

koimayeul · May 4, 2013

terminal_illness said:
lol so true. back on topic. I fired up my scribblenauts. nyan cat doesn't even look 100% the same, its adapted in scribblenauts drawing style.

Yeah, I don't get the purpose in making others feeling stupid like some perverted judge to their trial. In a real encounter face to face it would not happen and it doesn't. Think of a random stranger at the supermarket arguing you for your opinion? Nope. Internet, anonymous, well.. It's alright to be wrong or being proved wrong, just not in an accusatory and disrespectful manner. We're all growing with experience and opinions are subjected to change, just like mine on the matter changed as I acknowledged there may be advertisement involved in trailers with said copyrights.. The right way is to adapt with objective facts as they are discovered, the wrong to hang on subjective opinions. Current lawsuit case, I think I expressed all I wanted to say already..

Gahars said:
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Not really, no.

It's almost as if that's expected in any debate, online or off. Weird...

Precisely my good Gahars, a debate is to confront arguments when a dialog or discussion is to build up opinions sharing knowledge. Imagine yourself with your wife or kids or bros sitting at your dinner table, debates anytime one open their mouth for speaking about weather or actuality.. I would retire in an underground grotto, lol.

Our forums should be more a friendly place like a dinner table with our online community and less a trial to prove points against one another.. Really.

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