Hacking Is it even worth it?

BenRK · Feb 9, 2013

I can't imagine modding the vWii mode on the Wii U to be worth it. It seems risky, and there doesn't appear to be any way to return it to factory settings. What if I have to send in my Wii U as a whole in to Nintendo for some unforeseen problem with the system it self? What if Nintendo recognizes modded Wii U's and simply doesn't allow virtual console stuff to transfer over at the discount? What if they don't and everyone uses it to cheat them out of money?

I don't know. Is there ANY real benefit to modding vWii mode? You could argue backups, but if you are truly only running backups of your games then it shouldn't be a problem to just stick the game disc and play (you pirate...). The ONLY bit of homebrew I can think of that I may want is DIOS MIOS for Gamecube backups, but I don't recall if they ever made it so classic controllers could work with it or if it even works at all on a Wii U (I imagine it wouldn't).

So yeah, I don't think it's worth modding my Wii U's vWii mode. Not until they find a way to use the gamepad as a second screen and classic controller and all that. And I'm fairly sure that's not going to happen, ever.

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clay.r.08 · Feb 9, 2013

i just got my wii u and modded it today
i have not looked for a option to format the wii u in settings but im pretty sure that it is there
i did notice the virtual wii did not have any kind of system settings but did have options for save data and channels

everything below is just my opinion, not facts, dont believe or do something just because i do or that is what i would do

i would think if you told the wii u to format its self than it would erase the homebrew channel

i think you could just erase the homebrew channel inside the virtual wii channel options

personaly i believe that if nintendo wanted to they could search for and find evidence of a mod even after wii u format but i do not think that they would do that

i think they may or may void your warrenty only if you have the homebrew channel installed or another channel installed that nintendo doesnt want you to

i think that they just want to get the word out that your warrenty is void, to try to cuase more people to stray away from modding their wii

i imaging nintendo has lost money fixing wii's that were damaged by modding and they dont like that because that is like a double loss for them, possible piracy, and paying to repair or replace hardware because of modding software

if i was realy worried about it and it was my wii u then i would make sure it was damaged to in a way that repairing it was not a option, and they would have to just replace it

BenRK · Feb 9, 2013

Then tell me, beyond piracy, what's the point of modding the vWii mode?

Taleweaver · Feb 9, 2013

To me, it's not worth it at this point. It can't do anything the wii already can, and I'm not as piss-poor that I had to sell that console in order to buy the wiiu. So I'm just content using my wii for all my gaming, emulating and video watching needs (and I barely use that latter as I've got a more convenient way for it). That, and of course voiding the warranty.

BenRK said:
Then tell me, beyond piracy, what's the point of modding the vWii mode?

It may sound like a lame excuse, but being able to play all your games from USB drive really is a plus if you're used to it.

Annieone23 · Feb 10, 2013

Being able to use the other multitude of homebrew is a huge plus in my opinion. For instance, I really need to copy over my Xenoblade save file to my Wii U from my PC (which itself is a backup of my Wii save.)

Tell me a way to do that without hacks and I'd do it.

ayrek · Feb 10, 2013

If its not worth it to you, then its really, really simple: don't do it. Personally, I modded mine so I coukd play backups without having to swap discs, and also to save directly to the SD card rather than the wii u nand (so that I can play the same games with the same saves on two consoles). If modding YOUR wii isnt worth it to YOU, then dont do it. None of us are going to talk you into it.

clay.r.08 · Feb 10, 2013

some people bring a tent to wait in line for a the newest iphone

some people are happy with their old iphone

new wii u is not for everyone but i like having something new, but i would never pitch a tent to have something new, i only play halo reach and marvel vs capcom, that is the only 2 games that i play, been that way for me for years, but i like to own anything that i can mod and charge people to mod their's or mod many systems and sell the systems, which means any gaming device that can be hacked im going to buy it and mess with it

i waited a few months after release and got mine brand new for $283 free shipping and no tax

i only saved $42 by waiting, but i was waiting for wii u hack and for the hack to be proven to be stable anyways,
and i bought when i was satisfide the hack was proven enough for me to feel comfortable to try it

BenRK · Feb 10, 2013

Like I said, playing backups shouldn't be a problem if you already own the game discs. You're not taking the Wii U everywhere like you can a 3DS or whatnot, so get some exercise and just swap out the disc. Otherwise I think we all know what you filled that hard drive up with.

ayrek · Feb 11, 2013

Discs scratch, discs break, optical drives burn out. Entropy destroys all things in time. But as long as it has a place to live, data doesn't degrade. Having games backed up on a hard drive means that a few years of heavy use won't burn out my Wii U like it did my Wii (which no longer has an optical drive, thanks to entropy).

You can say what you want, but it still comes down to nothing more than opinion. Hacking mine was right for me because it was something I wanted to do, and because I have the basic reading and technical skills required to not screw it up. If you don't want to, or if you can't read at a third grade level, or you don't know how to extract a rar file, then hacking the Wii U probably isn't for you. It's all relative, and accusing others of piracy really doesn't make you look any better in the long run, now does it?

tronic307 · Feb 11, 2013

BenRK said:
I can't imagine modding the vWii mode on the Wii U to be worth it. It seems risky, and there doesn't appear to be any way to return it to factory settings. What if I have to send in my Wii U as a whole in to Nintendo for some unforeseen problem with the system it self? What if Nintendo recognizes modded Wii U's and simply doesn't allow virtual console stuff to transfer over at the discount? What if they don't and everyone uses it to cheat them out of money?

I don't know. Is there ANY real benefit to modding vWii mode? You could argue backups, but if you are truly only running backups of your games then it shouldn't be a problem to just stick the game disc and play (you pirate...). The ONLY bit of homebrew I can think of that I may want is DIOS MIOS for Gamecube backups, but I don't recall if they ever made it so classic controllers could work with it or if it even works at all on a Wii U (I imagine it wouldn't).

So yeah, I don't think it's worth modding my Wii U's vWii mode. Not until they find a way to use the gamepad as a second screen and classic controller and all that. And I'm fairly sure that's not going to happen, ever.

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I'll probably get a used white Wii U for hacking purposes if and when Wii U mode gets hacked. I'm keeping my launch black system clean. I've already transferred all my VC games off my hacked Wii, and it just isn't worth having Nintendo refuse to repair your Wii U just because your vWii is hacked. Consider any hacked consoles disposable.

BenRK · Feb 13, 2013

ayrek said:
You can say what you want, but it still comes down to nothing more than opinion. Hacking mine was right for me because it was something I wanted to do, and because I have the basic reading and technical skills required to not screw it up. If you don't want to, or if you can't read at a third grade level, or you don't know how to extract a rar file, then hacking the Wii U probably isn't for you. It's all relative, and accusing others of piracy really doesn't make you look any better in the long run, now does it?

And constantly assuming I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't make you look any better either.

I modded my first Wii to death (not literally, still works just fine), but I find that beyond running backups I never used any other homebrew, not even emulators. Speaking from experience, most people mod their Wiis to pirate games. Sure SOME people are honest and only have backups of stuff you actually own, but I bet most of the people who hack their Wiis have at least one or two (if not more) games on their hard drives that they either borrowed, rented, downloaded, or since sold off the physical copies of. That is piracy. Doesn't matter if SOMEONE you know owns a copy, doesn't matter if you owned it at some point in the past.

The mods made it too easy to pirate stuff, even virtual console stuff. I didn't mind the custom stuff you couldn't get legitly anyway, but still...

ayrek · Feb 13, 2013

BenRK said:
And constantly assuming I don't know what I'm talking about doesn't make you look any better either.

I apologize, I didn't mean for that to seem like it was directed at you personally, beyond the "if you don't want to" part. I was just pointing out that the requirements for most of the tutorials I've read boil down to a) reading at a third grade level, and b) basic computer literacy, like extracting compressed files.

BenRK · Feb 13, 2013

Alright. Just be careful. People are bound to get defensive if someone says stuff like that.

I agree, modding a Wii is stupidly easy. All you really need is a 2GB SD card and being able to read instructions. It's what the mods are used for that bothers me. Trust me, as soon as someone figures out how to use the gamepad as a second mirrored screen for the vWii, I'll be all over it.

ayrek · Feb 13, 2013

BenRK said:
Trust me, as soon as someone figures out how to use the gamepad as a second mirrored screen for the vWii, I'll be all over it.

Oh god yes. Things that wonderful typically only happen in my dreams.
To take it one step further (and something that will likely never happen), I think the best mod I can possibly imagine for a Wii U would be getting devolution to accept the gamepad as an input, and then stream the game to the gamepad screen, for a semi-portable handheld gamecube experience. It would make me feel a lot like I felt as a kid when I got a Sega Nomad, and suddenly all these games I'd played on TV could be held in my hands.

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