Soulx threads...

Sterling · Nov 10, 2012

Okay, I'm just a little confused as to why whenever Soulx posts legitimate news its first post always reads along the lines of, "Dawww, I walked in here expecting Soulx and was not disappointed." I know that he has a bit skewed opinions, but at the same time many other users here treat Sony as our overlords. Very few members even think to post negative news about Sony because they're afraid of being branded as "Valwin", or "Soulx". It inhibits discussions when I and others legitimately have an opinion and real concerns on Sony's plummeting stock shares and many other things too. Why is it that members feel the need to just brush it all of because it's Soulx? It's no secret that Sony has been struggling lately, so why does he get all the flak for reporting it? Even the moderators have been lax in making sure the thread stays on topic, opting instead to lock it when it gets out of hand. Sure this bullshit was funny at first, but now that it's out of hand this much I usually find myself too late to post my concerns or opinions.

I'd really like it if people could remain mature and civil over such things. Don't like his posts, don't post. Maybe debate civilly but don't just walk in and post nonsense and walk out. That is fucking annoying and frankly I'm sick of seeing this recurring theme. >.<

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

Eerpow said:
We all know hell brakes lose when he does and yet he continue to do it. He even got suspended for it. He isn't exactly trustworthy even if I personally feel that he isn't biased in his OP's like he used to be.

I'm pretty sure he said that he won't be posting any Sony-related threads some time ago over IRC, and from what I noticed, he's keeping that promise, so I have no beef againts him as of now.

I can't see why "the community" is at fault for reacting negatively when its members see right through some thinly-veiled and baseless criticism for the sake of criticizing.

Eerpow · Nov 10, 2012

Foxi4 said:
I'm pretty sure he said that he won't be posting any Sony-related threads some time ago over IRC, and from what I noticed, he's keeping that promise, so I have no beef againts him as of now.

I can't see why "the community" is at fault for reacting negatively when its members see right through some thinly-veiled and baseless criticism for the sake of criticizing.

Is this thread enough to spice your beef?

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

Eerpow said:
Is this thread enough to spice your beef?

Whoopsie! Someone didn't keep their promise!

Clarky · Nov 10, 2012

Eerpow said:
The problem isn't the news themselves, it's the community.

someone got it

Guild McCommunist · Nov 10, 2012

Really, we should just close them for copy/pasting from the source with very little original content.

Yeah that rule is still in effect.

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

Guild McCommunist said:
Really, we should just close them for copy/pasting from the source with very little original content.

That's besides the point, albeit very true.

I think Sterling wanted to discuss the typical soulx qualities of his posts - 99% of news posters don't know how to construct a news post without the use of CTRL+V.

Sterling · Nov 10, 2012

Guild McCommunist said:
Really, we should just close them for copy/pasting from the source with very little original content.

Yeah that rule is still in effect.

That is an entirely different beef that should be enforced.

@Foxi: That is the thread that pushed me over the brink so to speak. If you check his OP, there was no negative or fanboy related remarks. Just a simple hmph. It was legitimate news and I'd habe liked to take part in the discussion that could have been had.

Guild McCommunist · Nov 10, 2012

Sterling said:
So Guild and other people are exempt from this criticism? Many people do that. I see Guild hating on Minecraft and Nintendo regularly. Even his news posts reflect that. Stop making this complaint about sales. It's never been about that. Sales are not news, just a conversation topic. Those go in the General Gaming forum and promptly get out of hand and are locked. That's ridiculous too. For fucks sake people, just because it's a sales report posted by Soulx, doesn't automatically make it an instant flame wars. It takes a lighter to make it so, and that means you or any other members that feel like it's their duty to wreck Soulx's topics (that's not specifically directed at you BTW).

Gahars is a cool guy too. Gahars is also Guild's friend. If Guild would stop putting BS where it doesn't belong, Gahars would follow suit.

But I don't make threads about it and it's very clearly sarcastic. Remember that post where I said "real gamers play real games on real internet connections"? That seemed like a very obvious joke. Who the hell would make such an asinine statement? Regardless of how you view me you know I'm a smart enough guy and not even I would say something so stupid without thick coating of sarcasm so you can swallow it and regurgitate a laugh.

My news posts? Are you shitting me? Like seriously, are you fucking shitting me? Name one news post where I'm biased. Fucking find it. Because I take pride in the complete unbiased posting of my news. And since when have I posted sales? Fucking never, because it's not news. In fact, let's go through my recent news postings:

Shantae and the Pirate's Curse: It's a 3DS game so I obviously covered it with hatred and shitmongering. I mean quotes such as "The [original Shantae] was well received by critics but almost forgotten in the wake of Nintendo's Game Boy Advance. The game received a small cult following which eventually led to a sequel, Risky's Revenge, on the DSi 8 years later." just shout "Nintendo hater".
Uncharted card game: It's a Sony game so I'll probably be inseminating it in a text format. I mean I say such obviously biased statements like "it seems like Uncharted will be entering some uncharted territory with a new "casino/card" game." I'm sure Walter Kronkite is rolling in his grave.

Or to the USN, where I make my "less serious" or "not front page worthy" news posts.

Silicon Knights to destroy UE games: They made that shitheap Gamecube game that mouthbreathing morons known as "people who owned a Gamecube" loved so quite obviously I'll be spending most of my post talking about how bad Eternal Darkness was. I mean when I mention Eternal Darkness, it just oozes hatred for Nintendo. When I say "Silicon Knights is best known for making Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem for the Gamecube" or "Silicon Knights was slated to make an Eternal Darkness sequel for Nintendo's upcoming Wii U system, but with such a harsh blow, it's quite possible this project will be left in the dark." you can just feel the amount of bias in this news post. Quite honestly I'm surprised that a real staff member hasn't removed it yet for its disgusting bias. Get on it, p1ngpong.
Pre-launch PASBR news: Oh man, the big daddy of bias, the Autobahn of one-way streets, the overlord of objective opinions, this is by far the most disgusting pile of fecal sludge to grace the USN. I mean look at the bias. "Pretty neat, huh?" No, it's not neat, stop injecting your opinion! "So if you were upset about your favorite Playstation character not making the cut, perhaps you'll see him here?" Fuck no, optimism is so fucking biased. This thread should be axed now.

So as you see, I have such a horrific bias in my news and threads that clearly disqualify me for the position at hand.

And the policy of "sales aren't news" arose from the Valwin times when he posted sales news with the clear and obvious attention of starting shit. Even without my involvement the threads went to shit and it was essentially a soapbox to be a dick. With soulx taking those reigns, I think the destination is the same. Every week it's just "LOOK HOW BAD THE VITA IS DOING!" We're not living under a goddamn rock, I know how each system sells generally. If there's a huge change in sales, it's worth some sort of news like "Vita sales skyrocket tenfold" or "3DS sales go down 900%" then post that shit. But if it's boring sales numbers you just want to use as your pornography for jerking off on the same shit then it deserves no place on this forum.

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

Guild McCommunist said:
We're not living under a goddamn rock, I know how each system sells generally. If there's a huge change in sales, it's worth some sort of news like "Vita sales skyrocket tenfold" or "3DS sales go down 900%" then post that shit. But if it's boring sales numbers you just want to use as your pornography for jerking off on the same shit then it deserves no place on this forum.

A good example here would be the 500% increase in Vita sales in Japan after the release of Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F which was not covered at all on GBATemp from what I noticed.

You may like or dislike Miku, but 500% of an increase in sales probably was worth mentioning back in September, that game turned the Vita's situation upside-down for a brief period of time.

I'm yet to see a single positive article about the Vita by yours truly, posting news that are good isn't as exciting as posting charts.

Sterling · Nov 10, 2012

Wow, you took what I said and blew it way out of proportion. I know you're a sarcastic bastard, that much is easily discernible. Then again, I have seen a few articles that you added your two cents to. Over the years I've been here, I've seen how your bias has changed and it's now more or less against Nintendo. Again, it's cool. It's your opinion and I respect that. Which is why I've made it a point to respect everyone's opinion. Soulx has an exceptionally controversial stance (laced with obvious bait) with Sony products. Again, I respect that though I may not agree with it. You can call people out on their BS without being immature and disrespectful. Which has been happening with dropping frequency lately.

And no, I do not remember that particular post about "connectile dysfunction".

Oh and I never said you've posted sales figures.

porkiewpyne · Nov 10, 2012

Foxi4 said:
A good example here would be the 500% increase in Vita sales in Japan after the release of Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F which was not covered at all on GBATemp from what I noticed.

You may like or dislike Miku, but 500% of an increase in sales probably was worth mentioning back in September, that game turned the Vita's situation upside-down for a brief period of time.

I'm yet to see a single positive article about the Vita by yours truly, posting news that are good isn't as exciting as posting charts.

Woah I knew it was popular and all but never knew it was capable of increasing sales of the console by 500%. O____o
But does it include the sales of bundle? Cos if it did, then the news may have been covered in the thread regarding the bundle and game.

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

porkiewpyne said:
Woah I knew it was popular and all but never knew it was capable of increasing sales of the console by 500%. O____o
But does it include the sales of bundle? Cos if it did, then the news may have been covered in the thread regarding the bundle and game.

It was based on units of the console sold since the game's release, regardless of whether the unit was bundled or not. A brief search on GBATemp doesn't indicate that it was mentioned anywhere, but hey - maybe the search function is playing funny buggers on me. As it is now, I don't see it mentioned anywhere - only negativity as far as Vita-related USN is concerned.

Sterling · Nov 10, 2012

porkiewpyne said:
Woah I knew it was popular and all but never knew it was capable of increasing sales of the console by 500%. O____o
But does it include the sales of bundle? Cos if it did, then the news may have been covered in the thread regarding the bundle and game.

Vocaloid is so incredibly popular in Japan, it wouldn't have been a stretch to predict 1000% sales boost of the system.

It's now 8 AM and I'm inserting typos everywhere. It's time for bed. >.>

Guild McCommunist · Nov 10, 2012

Sterling said:
Wow, you took what I said and blew it way out of proportion. I know you're a sarcastic bastard, that much is easily discernible. Then again, I have seen a few articles that you added your two cents to. Over the years I've been here, I've seen how your bias has changed and it's now more or less against Nintendo. Again, it's cool. It's your opinion and I respect that. Which is why I've made it a point to respect everyone's opinion. Soulx has an exceptionally controversial stance (laced with obvious bait) with Sony products. Again, I respect that though I may not agree with it. You can call people out on their BS without being immature and disrespectful. Which has been happening with dropping frequency lately.

And no, I do not remember that particular post about "connectile dysfunction".

You said my news threads showed my biased when it's absolutely wrong. Despite how I feel about this site, I do take my duties here quite seriously. I'll clown around outside of my job but when it comes to posting news I'm a stickler when it comes to journalistic integrity, even for something so minor and silly as video gaming news on a forum.

I think the issue is that I see soulx threads made with a very clear and obvious attention. When I post news, I don't post it to invoke something, I post it because it's interesting. Did I post that Shantae news in the hopes to gather a sect of Shantae tards into some sort of small metaphorical building and set it aflame? No, I posted it because it felt relevant to the site.

He's been here long enough to know what sinks and floats on this site. It honestly doesn't take that long to know that. When he posts a thread like "Sony now one point above junk rating" he isn't blindly strolling into the forum like a newborn child (which apparently stroll now?) just trying to be a helpful little helper. He knows exactly what the thread will bring and then posts it. And when it's closed, like he knows it will, he complains about it. There's a constant stream of fish in the sea to post for news, news that will provoke a true conversation amongst members that's interesting. He knows posting "Sony is shit" and "Nintendo is great" news won't provoke that, it's either a bonfire or a circlejerk, take your pick. I can tell there's a very selective nature in his news posting, and with that, it almost seems like an equally clear agenda. I'm not secretive about my agenda, everyone here knows damn well what it is, but I don't use news posting here as a tool to further it. I think that's the dividing line.

Deleted_171835 · Nov 10, 2012

Here are my latest news threads.

BAAAAAAAWW, I'M SO BIASED, I ONLY POST SONY HATE NEWS.

Foxi4 said:
A good example here would be the 500% increase in Vita sales in Japan after the release of Hatsune Miku: Project Diva F which was not covered at all on GBATemp from what I noticed.

You may like or dislike Miku, but 500% of an increase in sales probably was worth mentioning back in September, that game turned the Vita's situation upside-down for a brief period of time.

I'm yet to see a single positive article about the Vita by yours truly, posting news that are good isn't as exciting as posting charts.

A temporary one-week boost by 500% for a system already selling bad isn't that notable. If anything, it merely proves that the Vita needs more games to sell.

Foxi4 · Nov 10, 2012

soulx said:
A temporary one-week boost by 500% for a system already selling bad isn't that notable. If anything, it merely proves that the Vita needs more games to sell.

>System sells at the same rate it sold last week, report that sh*t STAT!
>System sells 500% better than last week. Nothing to do here.

Annieone23 · Nov 10, 2012

Guild McCommunist said:
But I don't make threads etc etc -SNIP-

I agree with Guild that all of his original posts in USN/frontpage are very unbiased and, in fact, the best written on the site. His editorializing in the comments of threads I have already gone into, but as far as his posts themselves go, you can't fault them one bit. They are perfect.

I said a moment ago, regardless of if soulX is posting to get people riled up or not, his recent OP's have not been biased in and of themselves. Yes they aren't very eloquently written and usually just copy-pasta, but I don't really expect much else from any USN section. If mods just deleted the flaming comments, or comments off-topic talking about soulX and his threads, then instead of being trollbait they would just be news, as mediocre or interesting as you think it may be.

gamefan5 · Nov 10, 2012

When Guild posts his news, I admit that I don't see any hint of opinion in it. He does it in a professional manner.
Guild can be a sarcastic and a bit mean with his comments and sometimes that's why you don't have to take him srsly. But when Guild is serious it actually shows.

Midna · Nov 10, 2012

You guys are seriously going to sit here and tell me that "hmph" is an inflammatory and baiting comment?

Well golly gee, how about that.

VinvinMario · Nov 10, 2012

Such an informative thread, so much to learn from it.

Thank you Guild, foxi5, soulx and many others. Without you all, I wouldn't have learned a lot.

P.S. The typo is intentional.

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