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A kid, and a Sophmore who was stating his own opinion, and also asking people what was there opinion about this I didn't even mean it to go this far.
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Well technically science has demonstrated that a deity is not necessary to explain certain things.
*sigh* Okay...
As you can see, Religion can be quite "inspiring" for scientists. There would be no "cloning" if not for Religion - there would be no genetics to speak of. I'm not even trying, these names are picked at random.
I take it that you find it very hard to take the Bible or any other religious text metaphorically. And by the way, since we're so much into science, where's your evidence?
that is not even close to the same thing as saying science proves there is no god, that's saying that science suggests god is not necessary, which I'm not denying
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Keep in mind that it would've been considered social suicide or death depending the era if those scientists didn't believe in the judeo-christian deity. They basically had no choice during the social pressures of those times.
just to comment on religion = no war thing
I don't believe that one bit
no matter that there will be war
people will think they are superior to other people, it's just a fact of life. no religion isn't going to change that (like how japan thought china was inferior and did lethal human tests on them in WWII which was not motivated by religion one bit)
I don't believe that one bit
no matter that there will be war
people will think they are superior to other people, it's just a fact of life. no religion isn't going to change that (like how japan thought china was inferior and did lethal human tests on them in WWII which was not motivated by religion one bit)
Scientists at this time don't know how the universe began, however they know that a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a millionth of a second (Possibly a shorter amount of time, I can't quite remember) the universe was a tiny ball that could fit in the palm of your hand and continuosly expanded, even at the current time, the universe is expanding. As to not get into too much depth, the universe stayed that way, constantly expanding with nothing but matter... Eventually the first atoms were created... Rather than continuing, I'll say this: If a god created the universe, why exactly go through such a process instead of just simply creating the Earth and the Universe itself instantly...
Also one last thing, I may have made several mistakes in the above text as I'm going off the top of my head. Also, rather than respond, look at it this way, the bible was created by human being(s), human being's make mistakes, the bible could be a single huge mistake. Don't get me wrong, the same goes for what scientists have done, it could just be all mistakes.
Edit: Just to add: The whole, religion war thing, is wrong... Religion may be partial motivation for war, it would not be the only contributing factor, if there was no religion, there'd still be war.
Just because someone's religious doesn't mean that their religion is responsible for everything they've done. I'm sure you'd love to attribute that same logic to Hitler's fondness for Christianity (“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.” –Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)) and the pedophile priests' more obvious affiliations with Catholicism. If people weren't being bigoted about gay people because they're religious they'd be doing it for some other reason, and if the gentlemen that you listed weren't religious others would find new muses. Truth doesn't change based on culture. If all of human knowledge was destroyed, the scientific findings of the future would run in the same veins as today's. Religions, on the other hand, would be different.
Please don't be ridiculous. Your point was that sciences would be more developed than they are now if there were no religions and I just proved to you that religion itself had either little impact or proved to be inspiring for scientists.
Some people believe in God or Gods, some people don't, that's just how things are. A truly religious person marvels at the creations of God and wishes to understand them - "Christian Scientists" wanted to understand the divine and chose the path of science to achieve that. By understanding the world around them, they understood the divine and that led them to discovering and inventing plenty of things that nowadays we take for granted.
Just like any possible factor, Religion can have a positive or a negative impact. You're going to pull out the argument of book burnings and I'm simply going to say that with or without religion, there would still be people fighting for some other cause that would stall development. It's not a matter of religion per-se, it's a matter of education and understanding.
I never said that religion is in any way responsible for the forementioned discoveries and inventions - what I said was that it was inspiring for some scientists. In fact, I also said that Religion and Science should be kept as far apart as possible, much like Religion and State should be, as Religion is not a field of Science.
I also don't see why you're bringing peadophilia into the argument for some reason, neither do I understand the sudden appereance of Adolf Hitler in your post. I said it on the very first page - you have whackos, idiots or zealots on each side of the barricade. Religion didn't tell Hitler to go on and kill Jews - Jesus was a Jew, not only that, the Bible still contains scripture stating that in ancient times they were the chosen nation. Peadophilia isn't directly connected with Religion either - what point are you trying to make? That some's sexually deviated because God told him to? Don't be ridiculous.
Dude, I'm a physics major, I don't need your grade school explanation of how the universe began. I seriously hope you realize you haven't proven anything. If you think you have then you're just as ignorant as the theists that think they can "prove" god does exist. "god" can not be proved nor disproved it's a simple as that, therefor I chose to simply believe there is no god because I have no evidence that there is, not because I have evidence there isn't.
I'm just going to go ahead and say it, I don't disagree with the big bang but I also don't agree with it, because it is a theory. it is the most plausible scientific theory for the start of the universe (also was devised by a catholic monk), but it doesn't mean it is true/we know this is exactly how the world started/know the exact time. it is quite possible we will never know.
same with the theory of evolution, it is a theory. the most plausible theory, but who knows, it could either become a law or we find a better theory to how life as we know it came about.
edit, besides, evolution and the big bang don't disprove god
I meant this part, should of specified:
Although, I know pastors who say science is all false...
People would still find a reason to war.
Hell I bet if everyone was Atheist, they would war over who's Atheism is right.
Let's not forget about warring over land, natural resources, and money.
People go to war over everything, religion isn't the only reason.
Do people think without religion, all of them would just suddenly drop their morals and ethics?
Science would be "stalled" anyway since not every advancement may not be the right thing to do.
Also, even if their was a sudden advancement in science if their was no religion, there is a bad
side to technology and things can get dangerous much quicker.
Science would be "stalled" anyway since not every advancement may not be the right thing to do.
Also, even if their was a sudden advancement in science if their was no religion, there is a bad
side to technology and things can get dangerous much quicker.
Then the pastors you know are mental, but you shouldn't condemn the entire group just because a pastor you know refuses to use his brain.
I take back about what I said about no religion involved, then, I guess I didn't research it as much as I thought
HOWEVER
still doesn't mean it wouldn'tve happened, as people think they are superior over other people (stereotypically, rich/poor, also races (slavery) can also be secular), etc
Can we all just agree that Xenophobia has little to do with Religion and more to do with how people percieve differences between races?
It's just how the human brain works - you see that someone is different and it brings forth questions, questions which in turn brew emotions. Some people get anxious, scared, some feel superior, others inferior. It's the way the human mind works - when you see two things or two people that are different on first sight, equality is the last thing that springs to mind.
Equality between races is very noble and racism should be condemned, but we should also keep in mind that tolerance is something artificial that we instill in ourselves, not a natural reaction.
It's just how the human brain works - you see that someone is different and it brings forth questions, questions which in turn brew emotions. Some people get anxious, scared, some feel superior, others inferior. It's the way the human mind works - when you see two things or two people that are different on first sight, equality is the last thing that springs to mind.
Equality between races is very noble and racism should be condemned, but we should also keep in mind that tolerance is something artificial that we instill in ourselves, not a natural reaction.
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