Apple must publish notice that Samsung didn’t copy iPad (UK)

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You are missing my point. We're talking about a
The technology is vastly different, and while I agree that the exterior may be similar, it is not the same. For the untrained eye, 80% of cars look exactly the same - it's stuff on 4 wheels that moves after all, but you don't see any lawsuits because of it.
One word; cars.

I mean what with the wheels all being round and the door handles all being the same shape and the windshields and most having four doors and a stereo in the same place and blah blah blah...

Tablets are products that should fall under the same rules as the majority of other products. Apple and other companies, however, like to pretend they don't (same goes for phones). This is a dose of reality to Apple, which is welcome.
Blasted Rydian comes in and steals my argument while I'm still typing! *shakes fist* :lol:

Maybe it's because it's not the late 1800's or early 1900's
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
 

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Glad to see Apple losing these cases. Maybe then they'll stop chasing companies with flimsy patents on things such as 'slide-to-unlock' which they didn't create, but patented as their IP anyway. Scum, the lot of them.
 
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30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.

A 'matrix' USB desing still only uses the 4 pins of the USB port itself.
Besides using the USB the power rate max is 5v, 500mA.
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
I think my brain imploded a bit reading that...
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
I think my brain imploded a bit reading that...

Also the form factor looks the same purely because these tablets are so thin. Spreading out the pins into a thin row along one side allows them to make thin tablets. It is a physical need that they look this way.
 

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30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
To comment on this, neither the first-gen iPad or Transformer Prime I've got will charge via USB on the PC because they need more power than 2.0 will supply (according to specs)... so they need to use USB-wall chargers (the iPad worked with a generic one I've got, but the TF Prime needs me to use the one it came with, likely because it drains even more to run).

EDIT: Typo.
 

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Apple what you did was lie...and lying about somebody is a very bad thing to do. Now I want you to go over to Samsung's house and apoligize. After you get done with that, I want you to go to everyone's house in the neighborhood and knock on their door and tell them that Apple did not steal your idea...MARCH, MISTER!
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
Mine does that without a 30-pin connector. Also, WHY 30-pin just like Apple? Why not 40? Why not 28?

Coincidences, I tell ya!

EDIT: Apple is 30. Argument invalid, I guess :unsure: Still, mine charges with a normal miniUSB, even while requiring 2A (which is WAY more than 500mA supplied by USB).
 

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Apple what you did was lie...and lying about somebody is a very bad thing to do. Now I want you to go over to Samsung's house and apoligize. After you get done with that, I want you to go to everyone's house in the neighborhood and knock on their door and tell them that Apple did not steal your idea...MARCH, MISTER!
In cases like this the companies are literally making claims about what other companies have done. This damages the image of the other companies, and if it's found to not be true in court, most people who have seen the public accusations won't know about it.

You know, like when people are accused of pedophilia. Anybody else remember this thread?
http://gbatemp.net/topic/328801-child-pornography-case-that-caused-3ds-doa-sale-ban-finally-over/
Guy goes to court for "child porn". Turns out he's a professional translator for many anime series. Also only one image out of the group is determined to be pornographic, it's hentai, and the court acquits him, refusing to charge him criminally for one hentai image.

Yet in the thread you can see tons of people insulting the guy and talking about how it makes them sick.
Why? Simply because he was being accused of the crime.

The average person doesn't know what the justice system in most countries is about. You tell them somebody (they don't know) is being accused of something, and they think the person's guilty, not realizing that the entire point of the court case is to determine if they are or not. An accusation is a damn powerful thing, and the courts know it. Hell, lying in a court of law can get you up to five years in jail in the US, the court systems of other countries don't buy that shit either.

Apple needs to do this for two reasons.
1 - To officially retract their claims and help heal some of the damage to Samsung's image that they directly caused.
2 - To hopefully get Apple to not pull this shit in the future.


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^ - Think that kid's going to be quick to lie to her dad next time, or do you think public embarrassment is going to take a step towards mending her ways? :P
 
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And this is what the notice will look like:




According to the court ruling in the recent Apple VS Samsung case we must inform the public that

iPADS ARE WAY COOLER THAN SAMSUNG TABLETS
and Samsung are not plagiarists, but merely tryhard wannabes.

It's official.
The court ruled thus.​
 
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Well shit, Apple had better start suing ASUS now because my Nexus 7 also has a glass border and a front mounted camera and is rectangular in shape!


30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.


Almost every single tablet I've seen these days does not take more voltage than a phone - almost everything is USB specced 5v. Amperage, yes, they often take more than a phone - my Galaxy Nexus wants a 1A charge, yet my Nexus 7 tablet wants a 2A charge - however, neither have any complaints about charging from my powered USB hub overnight. (edit - over a microUSB connection, nonetheless)
 
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Well shit, Apple had better start suing ASUS now because my Nexus 7 also has a glass border and a front mounted camera and is rectangular in shape!
I don't think Apple will sue anyone else, right now. I mean, they're already sueing and BEING sued by far too many companies.

Also, they're suing Samsung because they were the first to start mimicking their look (look at the Galaxy S1) - and also because they're the only other major Tablet/Smartphone manufacturer. ASUS is much smaller in comparison.
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
I think my brain imploded a bit reading that...

Also the form factor looks the same purely because these tablets are so thin. Spreading out the pins into a thin row along one side allows them to make thin tablets. It is a physical need that they look this way.
My Kindle is thinner than any tablet Samsung or Apple has and uses a MicroUSB. I also have an Apple 30-pin next to me, and its not thinner than a MicroUSB cable.
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
I think my brain imploded a bit reading that...

Also the form factor looks the same purely because these tablets are so thin. Spreading out the pins into a thin row along one side allows them to make thin tablets. It is a physical need that they look this way.
My Kindle is thinner than any tablet Samsung or Apple has and uses a MicroUSB. I also have an Apple 30-pin next to me, and its not thinner than a MicroUSB cable.

since when can you compare a kindle to an ipad? Think of the difference in power. thats why kindle can use usb.
 

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And theeeen.... THIS
apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
So a tablet connector used by pretty much every company due to its slim design and uh...a USB cable?
I'll just reply to this one. Every single tablet out there uses mini-B USB or micro-B USB. Why create a form factor SO similiar to Apple?

Heh, coincidences! :toot:
30-Pin connectors are required as tablets take a higher charging voltage than phones. If you want unified charging and data on a tablet, the use of 30-pin connectors is mandatory.
I think my brain imploded a bit reading that...

Also the form factor looks the same purely because these tablets are so thin. Spreading out the pins into a thin row along one side allows them to make thin tablets. It is a physical need that they look this way.
My Kindle is thinner than any tablet Samsung or Apple has and uses a MicroUSB. I also have an Apple 30-pin next to me, and its not thinner than a MicroUSB cable.

since when can you compare a kindle to an ipad? Think of the difference in power. thats why kindle can use usb.
Huh, it's not like the device is POWERED by USB. It just uses it to recharge (so a lower "power" is fine, it just takes longer to recharge).
 

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I may have got the specifics wrong, but charging and docking are the reasons behind 40/30 pin connectors.
Not to try and look like apple. And seriously, if your resorting to using the appearance of a charging connector as a case of cloning, then you really need to stop and think about just how pedantic you're been.
 

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