ROM Hack Pokémon Sacred Gold & Storm Silver

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Hey Drayano, or anyone else that can answer, is this game compatible with Pokemon Battle Revolution? Thanks in advanced!
 

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If you use no$gba, let me just stress that you need both version 2.6a and no$zoomer to stand a chance of it not breaking constantly.

I assume it is since I didn't change any of the PBR related files, though you'll have to try for yourself. First time anybody's asked me that one o_o
 

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Hi Dray,

I'm now in Olivine, and I have one issue which is maybe not an issue. When I enter the PokeCenter, there is a girl which asks me 2 questions, one about Kimono Girls and the other about Lightning House. When I say both "Yes" even without finishing the Lighting house, she will say "Flag Set" and disappear.

Is it the way this girl work?
 

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That was to fix some bugs people were encountering in earlier versions because certain flags weren't set when they should have been. If you started a new game on 1.03 or above then it won't be an issue. It shouldn't make a difference to your current save no matter what you answered.

I'll be removing her next update.
 

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Hey another quick question Drayano (thanks for being so active with your users/fanbase), when are we gonna see a thread for BB and VW 2?
 

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It won't be until after I've made it (and after it's been approved in the hack screening thread...).

I want to give people time to enjoy the English release (and also not seem really desperate) so... I'd estimate November or December. I brought out BBVW initially about a month after BW English came out so it'll be a similar timescale, I think.
 

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I started it with 1.05 .. so I will not have any problem with her. That's good.

I'm now going to Cianwood, and using R4 clone (I think :P) .. till now no issue. :D
 

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i dont know about switching gyms. how would you switch that? is it like, you switch the door warps to bring you to another gym? you walk into brocks gym but end up in blanes or would you just have someone else standing in brocks gym? cause that might just look weird and all.


personally, if you want to change something about the gyms, i'd rather have additional trainers and stuff. like, apprentice leaders... i'd be funny if you had to battle like, winona in falks gym, before you can battle falk at all, or tate and liz in the psychogym and that fat old guy in bobs etc. you know... similar to the special trainers in black/whites post game

As a general question, is it even possible to add new trainers into these games? Or is it still just editing existing ones?
 

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I started it with 1.05 .. so I will not have any problem with her. That's good.

I'm now going to Cianwood, and using R4 clone (I think :P) .. till now no issue. :D
You'll run into some issues during Kanto on an R4. Specifically
-Make sure you play on an emulator when you go into the Pokefan's house in Vermillion City, or else the Steven glitch will happen when you leave and you won't be able to trigger that event at all on your R4

-When you find Mew in Viridian Forest, save and chase it down on an emulator or else Mew will freeze the game on an R4

-When Cynthia invites you into the Sinnoh Ruins, save and then collect the hidden plate on an emulator, or else it will freeze the game

that's it
 

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Hi Dray,

I'm now in Olivine, and I have one issue which is maybe not an issue. When I enter the PokeCenter, there is a girl which asks me 2 questions, one about Kimono Girls and the other about Lightning House. When I say both "Yes" even without finishing the Lighting house, she will say "Flag Set" and disappear.

Is it the way this girl work?
. I was wondering the same thing, but now I have another question, what if I'm using a really old version of the Sacred Gold and I said no to the lighting house? Will I not be able to do something later on?
 

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i dont know about switching gyms. how would you switch that? is it like, you switch the door warps to bring you to another gym? you walk into brocks gym but end up in blanes or would you just have someone else standing in brocks gym? cause that might just look weird and all.


personally, if you want to change something about the gyms, i'd rather have additional trainers and stuff. like, apprentice leaders... i'd be funny if you had to battle like, winona in falks gym, before you can battle falk at all, or tate and liz in the psychogym and that fat old guy in bobs etc. you know... similar to the special trainers in black/whites post game

As a general question, is it even possible to add new trainers into these games? Or is it still just editing existing ones?
I'd be switching the warps, yeah, and the text changed to reflect the new position (as well as the music that plays in the Gym Leader fight optimally). All of the gyms except for Blaine's look the same on the outside so it wouldn't actually appear that odd.

It would help if I could have new trainers that actually walked towards you if they saw you ;-; But that unfortunately never worked. I could certainly put in team references of some sort though, I suppose...

Well, there's plenty of unused trainers so I have plenty to edit that way (although I've used up a fair few of them already). I'm not actually sure if you can add new trainers or not; I don't see any reason why you wouldn't be able to but I haven't tried. The only potential issue is naming the new trainers, but that might not actually be a problem.

I was wondering the same thing, but now I have another question, what if I'm using a really old version of the Sacred Gold and I said no to the lighting house? Will I not be able to do something later on?
Well, there's only an issue in the first place if there was a Kimono Girl blocking the Ecruteak Dance Theater. If there wasn't, then you don't need to worry; nothing will have changed.

edit: I've made a little progress on bug finding. Two things to report;

1) The MooMoo milk problem I believe is being caused by an erroneous overworld file. If it's what I think it is, this should be simple to fix.

2) It turns out the reason for fishing up missingnos was a problem with PPRE. Every area has data that causes a certain Pokémon to appear at night when fishing with the Good/Super Rod. Olivine City is a good example; in the original game you will see Corsola during morning/day, and then Staryu during night. Now, the issue is that PPRE doesn't actually display this data, and just shows the fishing list for morning and day.

Hence...
The good news is that the glitch won't affect you at all if you fish during morning and/or day. Since I have not distributed water-based Pokémon dependent on time, there shouldn't be an availability issue.
The bad news is what's actually happening; PPRE (the program I use for script editing, Wild Pokemon editing, Pokemon editing and trainer editing) is completely chopping this data off! Hence every single wild file is four bytes shorter than it should be, and due to this missing data at night, it's what causes the Missingno to always pop up. This means it is fixable, but it's going to be a long and very tedious process; I might leave it for another time, since I'll have to go through all ~141 files and add the necessary bytes in (although, only if they're necessary, so that cuts it down a bit).

Nice to finally know why that's occurring though. The problems of not just using hex...
 
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Hey Drayano, another question. This was probably answered before but 65 pages to read is a lot of pages! Is SGSS (and BBVW if you know) compatible with Pokegen/sav?
 

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The save file structure should be the same so yeah, it'll work. There might be some slight issues where I've changed base stats and whatnot but the game will iron out the errors when the Pokémon levels up.
 

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Hi Dray,

I encountered my first freeze ( or let say black screen with music). In Safari Zone, after Team Rocket Grunts battle me and Buck, I got a call from Mother and reply, it is blacked out.
 

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Hi there Dray, fantastic hack! I don't know if I should wait until you release another update to play it, but my hands are itching!

I've got a few suggestions:

1) I'd like that the gym leader order remains the same as the original game, I think it's more appropriate to the story. Also, changing gym leader order is a lot more laborious to implement than it looks... You'd have to include new wild Pokémon in some areas to allow the players to fight the new gyms with a fair chance to win. I personally think that a different Johto gym leader order screws up the whole game... But that's me.

2) Could you make all the TMs and evolution items buyable at some point? I know that, for example, you can win Razor Claw at Battle Frontier for example, but that's too tedious... Also, a few items like Aubade Ore you can only get a limited amount of times... I think one of the points of this hack is to offer a "limitless" Pokémon experience, so being restricted to two Espeons for example isn't very good.

Anyway, I hope you keep working on it, and I wholeheartedly thank you for making a thing like this happen.
 

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Hi Dray,

I encountered my first freeze ( or let say black screen with music). In Safari Zone, after Team Rocket Grunts battle me and Buck, I got a call from Mother and reply, it is blacked out.
That'll be the issues with the Route 47 events. Hopefully I can get rid of those...

Hi there Dray, fantastic hack! I don't know if I should wait until you release another update to play it, but my hands are itching!

I've got a few suggestions:

1) I'd like that the gym leader order remains the same as the original game, I think it's more appropriate to the story. Also, changing gym leader order is a lot more laborious to implement than it looks... You'd have to include new wild Pokémon in some areas to allow the players to fight the new gyms with a fair chance to win. I personally think that a different Johto gym leader order screws up the whole game... But that's me.

2) Could you make all the TMs and evolution items buyable at some point? I know that, for example, you can win Razor Claw at Battle Frontier for example, but that's too tedious... Also, a few items like Aubade Ore you can only get a limited amount of times... I think one of the points of this hack is to offer a "limitless" Pokémon experience, so being restricted to two Espeons for example isn't very good.

Anyway, I hope you keep working on it, and I wholeheartedly thank you for making a thing like this happen.
1) There's already a huge variety of Wild Pokémon anyway so I don't think that'd really be an issue if I choose the types properly, but I agree it is more labourious to implement than it appeared at first sight. Mostly because I have to do a load of file swapping, text changing, script editing etc to get it to work correctly. I might well just keep it the same, since I'm probably going to want to focus my efforts on BB2VW2 once I've got this fixed of its bugs.

2) Well, in the next version I'm intending to make it so whenever you receive a TM, you get 99 of it to give a psuedo-feel of infinite use TMs (since I can't seem to actually get them to work like they do in BW). Due to that I'll be removing them from the markets so that means I'll have plenty of spare space to put in extra items such as berries and evolution items, so yeah, that should work out pretty well actually. Though not many people need doubles of particular Pokémon, I gotta say o-o;
 

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This is just my opinion, but I like the idea of buying the TM's a lot better. As stated quite a few pages back, giving 99 of a TM would make it too easy to sell some of the items and get a huge amount of money, making it easier to get revives, full restores, etc making the game easier (to an extent). Unless you lowered the price of the TM's when they get sold.

Then there is also the view that this is your hack and you can do whatever you want :P
 

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Well, I could probably lower the TM prices pretty easy (say, to 0?) to eliminate that problem, and if I take them out of the regular markets then the purchasing price won't be an issue. There's nothing stopping me from making special clerks for the TMs that have their own price costs, after all ;) So emulating the way B(2)W(2) charge you loads for a TM shouldn't be too much of an issue.

The only potential issue is that it still looks a bit untidy, but after BW and B2W2 it's hard to go back ;_;

I think I'm going to do away with the Legendary Trainer stuff too, that's a 'storyline' that never really went anywhere.

Hence, the Eevee is no longer a gift! Now it's an abandoned Pokémon. ;-; Wonder if I can build a sidequest around it...

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