It's pure ignorance to say that Ocarina of Time is not the best game of all time.
It shaped 3D plat-formers and added a new depth to games.
It shaped 3D plat-formers and added a new depth to games.
We get it dude you hate OOT. You mention it every single time OOT is brought up. No one cared the first time, and still no one cares.
and i'd like to add that gyro sensors need to be made 100% optional in every single game ever created. Seriously it's so fucking annoying when games have it basically required to use...I look like a dumbass playing Ninja Gaiden Sigma at work.
"Dude why are you swinging your Vita around like that...?"
"Because this son of a bitch wont sit still, dammit."
Granted, i'm talking Vita...but I could swear I had a similar experience with the 3DS.
Anyone thinkin' a second analogue stick wouldn't benefit a wide variety of games is delusional. FPS aren't the -only- games needing a second analogue.
> Ocarina of Time
In retrospect, OoT is an average game. Not all the puzzles are solid, combat is dull and clunky, story is bland and uninteresting, there's no character development, and a lot of its gameplay aspects have been picked up by its sequels and even other games and done a lot better. People hate Darksiders but it's still Zelda with better combat.
EDIT: Think of it this way. Ocarina of Time is a plain chocolate cake. It's chocolate cake, that's all it is. Not that chocolate cake is bad, but no one wants just chocolate cake. Eventually all these other developers took this idea of chocolate cake and made it better. Added frosting, made it layered, put some decorations one it, all that stuff. So a lot of things, at their core, have chocolate cake as their base idea, they're still a lot better because it has this frosting and other stuff.
Hay guise deese games released in in liek 2010 iz bettur than OOT (1998).
Guild you're ignorant, not a stupid. Try harder.
My entire point is that people still act like Ocarina of Time is a better game compared to modern games. My point is that it has not aged well (particularly the camera) and people should stop singing its praises compared to modern games like it's 1998.
EDIT: But I just realized what thread this was and I have
Game still works perfectly fine for me, though I suppose i'm not spoiled and grew up with it so i'm probably just used to slightly outdated mechanics like the OOT camera (which frankly, works just fine).
I've never seen someone claim OOT is better than most modern games. Post quote proof?
People praise it a lot, sure, but i've never once seen anyone say "Man dis gaem stomps the shit out of Portal 2 in every technical aspect!"
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That brings me back to the whole "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" strategy. I can use Windows '97 on my computer and it "works fine", but why run it over Windows 7? It's the modern age, they can easily incorporate tech to allow superior camera controls, but now people are literally saying they shouldn't have superior camera controls because old camera controls "work fine" when the camera is rather flawed in a lot of aspects. As per "post quote proof"...
"Best" implying that it's still the best, "all time" implying it still is as well.
Yeah I don't need you to spell it out for me...
I know the meaning of what I just said.
Ocarina of Time is better than every other game but is overshadowed by the hype that lasts up to about 5 years of other games.
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This argument is pointless, and will just lead to an endless war.
Some people love OoT. Some people enjoyed it, but have moved on. Some people hate it.
Nobody is right or wrong for their opinions (in this case, at least).
Even the opinion of OoTs camera. Perhaps the OoT camera had all the features that he wants in game camera behaviour? He's not delusional for thinking it's perfect.
Let's all just chill out and discuss the 3DS XL.
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Windows 97 doesn't work "just fine" at all. Nothin' would be compatible with it and you'd never play anything. Bad example.
By works fine I meant...works fine. It works well enough that I was unaware OOT was ever considered to really have any outstanding camera problems. Every 3D platformer/adventure/action game i've ever played, at one point, had me cursing at the camera. OOT I did it no more, no less. Even compared to modern games.
and after Fire's latest post, he doesn't count dammit. I think anyone that calls is the best game of all time, yeah, needs a reality check. But to say it's bad at all is pure ignorance. The game still runs fantastically.
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That's a construction site. Not a tumour.
It has came to my conclusion that your opinion is wrong.
My opinion is true, therefore yours is false is it opposes it.
obvious troll is obvious...
Anw i dont know how you feel about OOT but a single Z button on N64 or a single L in 3ds really did the work for me
Anw i dont know how you feel about OOT but a single Z button on N64 or a single L in 3ds really did the work for me
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No idea if you're talking to me or not, haha, but still, valid point. I'm just saying that it's not a revision in the way most people seem to be thinking when they say "revision." It neither adds nor removes any functionality whatsoever, so it makes no sense that people are getting mad about feeling "cheated" by Nintendo. Heck, even if this "revision" (or whatever you want to call it) added built-in circle pad pro functionality, it's status as a feature-changing would still be debatable since the CPP is available for the original 3DS as an add-on.
Metroid Prime: Hunters on hardware exponentially weaker than the 3DS says, "Hi."
How slim are you expecting it to be? The original is already almost as slim as a DSLite, and features much stronger hardware and a bigger top screen. That's pushing the limits of its slimness already, I imagine.
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I happen to really like OoT after all these years, but I agree with your points about there being better games now, etc. However, I think the camera is actually one of OoT's better points. It was designed in a time when free-cameras weren't that standard at all (except for games like Super Mario 64, and even then that camera felt broken at times), and the game itself was designed in a way so that it didn't really NEED the free camera. The Z/L camera focus is still my instinctive method of camera control in newer Zeldas (even Wind waker and Twilight Princess GCN, which bother feature free-cam with the C-stick), and I feel it works great. And the added gyro-camera OoT 3D added while L-focussing/targeting added just enough extra camera freedom without being a pain, in my opinion.
Again, I agree with you about modern camera control. I just think that Ocarina of Time is a poor example to use, because it was completely DESIGNED with limited camera use in mind, and hence the game didn't really need it. But the sheer lack of a second analog limits camera possibilities to that plane, which limits the freedom that games in general can have on the 3DS. Heck, even games like Spider-Man: Edge of Time and The Amazing Spider-Man on the 3DS prove that the D-pad can work as an effective control method, without really getting in the way of combat. So I personally believe that the dual analogs are a problem mostly for games that thrive on dual controls (resident evil, Metal Gear Solid).
And that's my piece on that.
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