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Also, @ShadowSoldier the 35% reduced cancer thing is wrong, it does reduce the risk for some cancers, but not by 35%. I don't even think there was a percentage last I knew, it was just "It reduces cancer A B and C" I think it was like...cancer growth in the head and neck areas or something.

I can't find the link, it was a couple months ago when I found the link, but it didn't say it would do it by exactly 35%. It said it COULD prevent it UP TO 35%,
I love how the OP is so confident in his drug smoking habits, "I smoke it everyday", "But the weed I smoke...", "I smoke weed just for...". Bragging about smoking a drug that's still currently illegal, does not make you cool, nor should it make you FEEL cool just because you're breaking the law. Seriously, only the potheads are the ones that don't see a problem with weed. All the clean, above the influence people are the ones who have the correct outlook on weed. The majority of the people who smoke weed, smoke it for fun. They don't smoke weed just to cure certain problems with them. They smoke it to have the high feeling, which ends up making them do stupid shit. If weed was legalized, do you really want the population to go more downhill? Do you really want to see somebody walking down your street high as a kite not contributing to society? With the amount of potheads out in the world, you can basically already say weed IS legal since people are still doing it. So OP, why are you asking such a stupid question and stating that it should be legal, when you seem to be doing it anyways with no problems? There's no point in legalizing something that is already being abused nonetheless.

You're an idiot who can't understand jack shit. Honestly, do you expect someone to respond intelligently to this? You're a god damned fool if so. I'll break it down nice and simple for you.

a) It's not bragging, it's stating and actually using me as an example, and not just going "my friend" or something stupid everytime. And I'm not saying it to be cool, so please, get off your high horse your majesty.
b) It's not breaking the law if it's legal for us in this certain case (personal reasons, but it's not illegal at our work).
c) Again, if you read the thread, I stated that I don't do stupid shit or am a stereotypical stoner.
d) The world doesn't need Weed to make it go down hill, it's doing just fine on it's own.
e) I walk down the street high as a kite all the time. I also drive, and work high as hell too. And guess what, I'm sure I contribute a hell of a lot more to this country than you do for yours.

f) For fuck sakes, read the thread. Your post is so god damn incredibly stupid that I feel like I'm wasting my time just responding.
You are so fucking cool man. Teach me to be like you PLEASE! :)

I guess nothing affects you huh? I guess just because it doesn't affect you, it doesn't affect anybody else. You are god. Wow so cool.

EDIT: Also, why are you so mad stop being mad. Go smoke your precious weed and "relax" (as you think it is in your mind).
Z.Z You and several other people in this topic don't know what the phrase, "civilized discussion" means, do you? I.E. Respecting other peoples opinions, and discerning facts from said opinions. I think you're confusing your opinion with fact. The people who stay sober most likely have differing opinions. I know for one, I've been sober all my life, and I fully support legalization of weed. I don't discriminate against people who like smoking, even if it isn't my cup of tea. You need to chill out and let him express himself in the civilized manner he's been conducting himself in.

Y U HAV 2 ALWAYS BE RITE?...
 
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civilized manner he's been conducting himself in.

No offense but what you did is kinda like when you run up to your brother as a kid, slap him in the face, and then go cry to your mom when he slaps you back. You came in here and said "WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE SO COOL" and were being generally disrespectful and some people don't take other people's shit.
 

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civilized manner he's been conducting himself in.

No offense but what you did is kinda like when you run up to your brother as a kid, slap him in the face, and then go cry to your mom when he slaps you back. You came in here and said "WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE SO COOL" and were being generally disrespectful and some people don't take other people's shit.

Oh come on, you're going to sit there, in your chair, and say publicly, that he wasn't bragging or trying to show off having to state in every one of his posts what he uses his weed for? When it's all in his first post? Oh god, Guild...
 

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Personally I have nothing againts weed, but I get the impression that this thread was not started to have a discussion but to "agree with the OP or be called close-minded in every other case". The OP needs to realize that this is a controversial matter and that not everyone will be so lax about it - it's not a reason to start calling people names such as:

You're an idiot (...) can't understand jack shit (...) You're a god damned fool.

If ShadowSoldier wants a civilized debate then he should only contest posts that are invalid from a factual standpoint, aka, posts that are "wrong" not because of a difference in opinion but because of factual, scientific evidence that disprove them.
 
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Oh come on, you're going to sit there, in your chair, and say publicly, that he wasn't bragging or trying to show off having to state in every one of his posts what he uses his weed for? When it's all in his first post? Oh god, Guild...

I didn't find it as such. I have friends who smoke weed proudly and those that don't and he didn't strike me as the "proud" type. Well, not saying he was ashamed of it, but there's people who go out of their way to be like incredibly on about weed. Their the rasta guys who go "LEGALIZE WEED MAN!" and don't really give a good argument towards it other than "I want to get high but I don't want the pigs to get me".

Like if you were to brag about weed it'd go like...

"Man, I smoke so much weed. Like every day. Hell I even light up before [school/work/etc]. I can't do X without getting blazed first. Pot is so cool."

Someone who doesn't brag about it is more like...

"Yeah, I smoke weed, usually on a daily basis, but I like/don't like it for X, Y, and Z and want to know what others think."

If he had intense pride or wanted to brag about it he'd go into attack dog mode when there was a single opponent to his argument. But he hasn't. Well, until you kinda provoked him. If you worded it to be a bit different then he wouldn't go attack dog on you. Even a "honestly, and no offense here, you sound a bit pretentious with your weed habits, and here's why I think that" not "Wow you think you're so cool kid".

EDIT: Okay on a second read the OP does sound a bit pretentious but I just think it was bad wording. Honestly pot smoking is so widespread that bragging about it is like bragging about owning a laptop. Not everyone has one but a shit load of people do nowadays.
 

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civilized manner he's been conducting himself in.

No offense but what you did is kinda like when you run up to your brother as a kid, slap him in the face, and then go cry to your mom when he slaps you back. You came in here and said "WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE SO COOL" and were being generally disrespectful and some people don't take other people's shit.

Oh come on, you're going to sit there, in your chair, and say publicly, that he wasn't bragging or trying to show off having to state in every one of his posts what he uses his weed for? When it's all in his first post? Oh god, Guild...
He likes to spread the good feelings? He just doesn't want anybody trashing his lifestyle. Which I can sympathize with. You can disagree with him. You can talk to him. Just don't just walk in and disrespect him.

Personally I have nothing againts weed, but I get the impression that this thread was not started to have a discussion but to "agree with the OP or be called close-minded in every other case". The OP needs to realize that this is a controversial matter and that not everyone will be so lax about it - it's not a reason to start calling people names such as:

You're an idiot (...) can't understand jack shit (...) You're a god damned fool.

If ShadowSoldier wants a civilized debate then he should only contest posts that are invalid from a factual standpoint, aka, posts that are "wrong" not because of a difference in opinion but because of factual, scientific evidence that disprove them.
I'll admit, the first insult was uncalled for, but beyond that it seemed they were only retorts.
 

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civilized manner he's been conducting himself in.

No offense but what you did is kinda like when you run up to your brother as a kid, slap him in the face, and then go cry to your mom when he slaps you back. You came in here and said "WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE SO COOL" and were being generally disrespectful and some people don't take other people's shit.

Oh come on, you're going to sit there, in your chair, and say publicly, that he wasn't bragging or trying to show off having to state in every one of his posts what he uses his weed for? When it's all in his first post? Oh god, Guild...
He likes to spread the good feelings? He just doesn't want anybody trashing his lifestyle. Which I can sympathize with. You can disagree with him. You can talk to him. Just don't just walk in and disrespect him.

It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.

If he didn't want anybody trashing his lifestyle, he should know this is a public forum where opinions are widely different. Did he expect all of GBAtemp to be potheads and agree with him so he can continue feeling good about smoking weed?
 

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For me, it's just a case of something that's bad for you is still bad for you; for a while my friends were smoking the stuff 24/7 and they were really irritating to be with then they laid off the stuff for a little and calmed down to the point where I actually liked hanging out with them again. As for the social stigma, well it's just typical conservatism, I pretty much agree with everything Guild said already as far as why I wouldn't mind having it be legal, at this point you think the issue wouldn't be so controversial, but it still is. Also the above the influence commercials are retarded, exaggerated pieces of garbage for the most part in my opinion, and I've never had a drink or drug in my life, but those commercials just infuriate me.
 

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It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.
Does it matter? Its not your place to say what someone should and shouldn't do. If he's passionate about something, and someone wants to try it, you can't say anything against it.
 

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It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.
Does it matter? Its not your place to say what someone should and shouldn't do. If he's passionate about something, and someone wants to try it, you can't say anything against it.

Smoking weed isn't something to be passionate about. And if he feels it should be, then that weed must be working and being proof of it being harmful.
 

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what you don't see is that its a drug and you are an addict. i've been there and done it. smoked weed for 6-7 years, smoked cigarettes for 10, drank for a couple of those years as well, now that im clean and on track, it feels amazing to not have the "veil" that drugs place over you.


say what you want about being addicted to weed, its a drug and you need it. thats addiction. its fun don't get me wrong i got nothing against people smoking weed, i'm all for legalization. but you are a drug user and most people are addicts who do it. if you buy cigarettes or weed (or any drug) instead of the essentials in life then you need to refocus you attentions.
 
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It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.
Does it matter? Its not your place to say what someone should and shouldn't do. If he's passionate about something, and someone wants to try it, you can't say anything against it.
I beg to differ. Both the pro's and con's have to be presented - you can't just say "yeah, go ahead". If someone's passionate about jumping from windows, you don't exactly encourage that, do you?

My point is, you can't put one opinion on the pedestal because it's typically liberal and the other in the trash because it's conservative - they're both partially right. Weed is not particularily harmful, it practically can't be overdosed, it has certain medicinal effects and it's less biologically addictive than tobocco, but Brian also has a point - it is psychologically addictive due to high it gives, it may be harmful if not used in moderation, it does have side-effects like any psychoactive substance - increased anxiety being among them, it does affect your co-ordination negatively so it should not be used when driving or using any kind of machinery or in any situation when it could cause harm to someone.

You wouldn't advertise becoming an alcoholic or a tobocco smoker, so why advertise smoking weed? Everything should be used in moderation and everything should be the user's choice.
 
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It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.
Does it matter? Its not your place to say what someone should and shouldn't do. If he's passionate about something, and someone wants to try it, you can't say anything against it.

Smoking weed isn't something to be passionate about. And if he feels it should be, then that weed must be working and being proof of it being harmful.
Why not? Its been proven to be about as dangerous as legal drugs if not less. It makes him feel good, keeps him social, and from what I understand he keeps everything under control. Have you tried it? At any rate, whether or not he's passionate about it has nothing to do with what's your business and what isn't.


It seems as if he is trying to influence people to go out and try weed if they haven't already. One of his posts was discussing the matter of prices, and where he buys it. The other posts are all him talking about how it helps him, as if weed will do the same for some other person.
Does it matter? Its not your place to say what someone should and shouldn't do. If he's passionate about something, and someone wants to try it, you can't say anything against it.
I beg to differ. Both the pro's and con's have to be presented - you can't just say "yeah, go ahead". If someone's passionate about jumping from windows, you don't exactly encourage that, do you?

My point is, you can't put one opinion on the pedestal because it's typically liberal and the other in the trash because it's conservative - they're both partially right. Weed is not particularily harmful, it practically can't be overdosed, it has certain medicinal effects and it's less biologically addictive than tobocco, but Brian also has a point - it is psychologically addictive due to high it gives, it may be harmful if not used in moderation, it does have side-effects like any psychoactive substance - increased anxiety being among them, it does affect your co-ordination negatively so it should not be used when driving or using any kind of machinery or in any situation when it could cause harm to someone.

You wouldn't advertise becoming an alcoholic or a tobocco smoker, so why advertise smoking weed? Everything should be used in moderation and everything should be the user's choice.
Correct, but my point is that he just came in here and bashed the OP. If he'd have presented his opinions and arguments in a civilized manner in the first place, I wouldn't have even replied in the first place.
 

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I didn't read any posts other than the first one, so apologies if this has been said already. From what I understand, Weed is illegal because it cuts into many paper businesses since weed is a cheaper alternative. Many people wonder why something like Cigarettes is legal but weed is not. That is one of the reasons.
 
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im not a chronic weed smoker but i am going to say that it really helps when i have a migrane or when i have trouble sleeping
 

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Just going to throw this opinion out there.
Marijuana should be legalised for, in my opinion, these two reasons.
a) If all marijuana was grown by private companies, the product would be of the highest quality, because companies are out to make a profit, and if there is competition in that market, then people are going to buy off which ever company sells the best product. This leads to a point of taxation, the government can tax this product, the same they do on alcohol and tobacco, and generate more capital for which the government can spend on other public service etc.
b) At the moment, people are giving their to money criminals, mostly, which will in more cases than not end up on being spent on other illegal substances, or for illegal activities.

I don't really know, just thought I would ramble on, because I am all in favour of marijuana.
I would write more, but you know..I have this joint to finish
 
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(1) -Weed is used as a treatment for people with Schizophrenia.
(2)-People who smoke weed tend to have far less headaches.
(3)-People who smoke it tend to be a buttload healthier than people who just smoke tobacco.
(4)-There hasn't been a single case of someone overdosing and dying from weed.
(5)-It's also been proven to reduce your chances of getting cancer by upwards of 35%.
1) This made me laugh pretty hard. Patients were given cannabidiol, which is a compound found in marijuana. It's not "weed". [Source, likely the same source as you] Infact, adolescents who use marijuana are at a heightened risk of schizophrenia. And "Experts estimate that between 8% and 13% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna / cannabis use during teen years...". [Source]
2) Source? Googling just brings in results that say that marijuana use causes headaches and sleeping problems. Infact, googling both "weed reduces frequency of headaches" and "weed causes headaches" gives this as the first result.
3) While cigarettes are indeed more detrimental to health, what does it have to do with weed? Is it because tobacco is legalised and weed isn't? It's nothing short of amazing that tobacco hasn't been illegalised already. Weed shouldn't be legalised because tobacco is legal and worse for your physical health. The issue is far more complex than just physical health.
4) Lack of death and overdose doesn't mean that it's not harmful in other ways. That's like saying "butter is good because it has never spontaneously detonated and leveled a building".
5) Source? And, really? Cancer? Not any specific kind of cancer? Just...all cancers? Wowzers!
 
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(5)-It's also been proven to reduce your chances of getting cancer by upwards of 35%.
5) Source? And, really? Cancer? Not any specific kind of cancer? Just...all cancers? Wowzers!
Let me clarify - cannabis does not "cure" cancer nor does it reduce chances of getting it, it inhibits the growth and spread of cancerous cells, meaning that it slows it down considerably and it is used for that purpose in certain states. That actually is a scientific fact.
 
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(5)-It's also been proven to reduce your chances of getting cancer by upwards of 35%.
5) Source? And, really? Cancer? Not any specific kind of cancer? Just...all cancers? Wowzers!
Let me clarify - cannabis does not "cure" cancer nor does it reduce chances of getting it, it inhibits the growth and spread of cancerous cells, meaning that it slows it down considerably and it is used for that purpose in certain states. That actually is a scientific fact.
All cancerous cells? Or just head/neck cancers? All I'm finding is head/neck cancers. Not that head and neck cancers are insignificant or anything, infact it's quite amazing. It doesn't support public legalisation of marijiuana at all though.
 
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(5)-It's also been proven to reduce your chances of getting cancer by upwards of 35%.
5) Source? And, really? Cancer? Not any specific kind of cancer? Just...all cancers? Wowzers!
Let me clarify - cannabis does not "cure" cancer nor does it reduce chances of getting it, it inhibits the growth and spread of cancerous cells, meaning that it slows it down considerably and it is used for that purpose in certain states. That actually is a scientific fact.
All cancerous cells? Or just head/neck cancers? All I'm finding is head/neck cancers. Not that head and neck cancers are insignificant or anything, infact it's quite amazing. It doesn't support public legalisation of marijiuana at all though.
I found research about breast, brain, lung, head/neck areas and cervical cancer on the very first page of the search - it appears to be relatively multi-purpose. Google "Cannabis Cancer Inhibitor" and you should get a truckload of results.
 

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