Hacking If hacking your wii was illegal?

Mantis41 · Mar 21, 2012

I thought modifying any console was illegal.

Just Another Gamer · Mar 21, 2012

Mantis41 said:
I thought modifying any console was illegal.

I think it was more of a moral issue than a law thing.

Isn't it because the console itself a good which allows the buyer to customize it in anyway they want or something but the online thing is a service.

Mantis41 · Mar 21, 2012

Just Another Gamer said:
Mantis41 said:

I thought modifying any console was illegal.

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I think it was more of a moral issue than a law thing.

Isn't it because the console itself a good which allows the buyer to customize it in anyway they want or something but the online thing is a service.

This

Ars spoke to Jennifer Granick, the Civil Liberties Director of the Electronic Freedom Foundation to find out. The news was bad. "With hardware, you can do pretty much anything you want with it. There are very few rules that apply. You buy it, you own, you can take it apart, and that's perfectly fine," she explained. The problem is that no one simply modifies the hardware. "It becomes complicated with modern hardware because it's combined with firmware, the embedded software."

The infamous DMCA states that you can't circumvent any software protection to get at the copyrighted work it protects. If you're using a software exploit or installing a mod chip, you're disabling that protection to allow yourself to run homebrew code, and you're running afoul of the DMCA. "Thou shall not circumvent," Granick told Ars, counting the two ways to break the law. "And thou shall not provide tools to others.

The intent is meaningless. Even if you simply want to modify an Xbox to use as a media center, you're breaking the law, since you've given the system the ability to run unsigned code.

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JoostinOnline · Mar 21, 2012

Mantis41 said:
Just Another Gamer said:

Mantis41 said:

I thought modifying any console was illegal.

Click to expand...

I think it was more of a moral issue than a law thing.

Isn't it because the console itself a good which allows the buyer to customize it in anyway they want or something but the online thing is a service.

Click to expand...

This

Ars spoke to Jennifer Granick, the Civil Liberties Director of the Electronic Freedom Foundation to find out. The news was bad. "With hardware, you can do pretty much anything you want with it. There are very few rules that apply. You buy it, you own, you can take it apart, and that's perfectly fine," she explained. The problem is that no one simply modifies the hardware. "It becomes complicated with modern hardware because it's combined with firmware, the embedded software."

The infamous DMCA states that you can't circumvent any software protection to get at the copyrighted work it protects. If you're using a software exploit or installing a mod chip, you're disabling that protection to allow yourself to run homebrew code, and you're running afoul of the DMCA. "Thou shall not circumvent," Granick told Ars, counting the two ways to break the law. "And thou shall not provide tools to others.

The intent is meaningless. Even if you simply want to modify an Xbox to use as a media center, you're breaking the law, since you've given the system the ability to run unsigned code.

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If that was true, then Team Twiizers couldn't have presented their hacks publicly.

PolloDiablo · Mar 21, 2012

are u asking this on gbatemp?

PsyBlade · Mar 21, 2012

JoostinOnline said:
If that was true, then Team Twiizers couldn't have presented their hacks publicly.

US != World

shortz1994 · Mar 21, 2012

I really don't think it would matter, if it was illegal or not, i would still do it just on the bases of who i am. i like to "improve" things an make them better.
but me being a gear head, an no not pocket rockets, the big american muscule. the newer cars that are coming out will end all this, they also will have"firmwire"
next time you look at one. see if it has "onstar service", or the other one called sync.(newer fords/opels) but just like those, an electronics. modding will be around.
before anyone says "whats this got to do with this conversation. i'm going on computers. an in newer modles, you have to hack/mod the computer for the cars/trucks to run right. not just slap parts an duck tape on an go racing.

Lucif3r · Mar 22, 2012

I would still do it. Any modern console is more or less crap without homebrew on it.

xfcrowman · Mar 22, 2012

Lucif3r said:
I would still do it. Any modern console is more or less crap without homebrew on it.

Agreed - once you have seen the potential in a hacked videogame console, it's really hard to not want that in any other console you buy in the future.

For me, my first hacked console was the original xbox, and I didn't even consider buying a console from this current generation until it could be hacked for running homebrew/piracy.

snakepliskin2334 · Apr 21, 2012

me i do it for fun and im a poor bastard that cant by games for lack of work but thats gonna change soon and then i will still do it i mean why buy anything anymore because one if you dont like the game you can always delete it when you buy the retail disc you have to go through all the hasel of returning it and i mean come on.The same thing goes for with movies as well you download it from whearever and if you dont like it click a button and bam dont have to watch it again, and operating system same thing (: so in all i think we all do it but really dont give a shit pardon my french about the whatever reason the law has ...

Hielkenator · Apr 21, 2012

If the developement of homebrew was as 'far" as it is nowadays for wii, I'd have to say yes.
Because it acctually makes it a better system, not talking piracy at all.

I really think Nintendo would have loved to come up with alot of this stuff themselfs.

Sicklyboy · Apr 21, 2012

yes i would

loco365 · Apr 21, 2012

Lucif3r said:
I would still do it. Any modern console is more or less crap without homebrew on it.

This so much. When I got my AK2, I saw all that potential in it. I then opted to jailbreak my PSP, then my Wii. Now, I plan to jailbreak an iPod Touch when I get one. I couldn't bear to play without my jailbreaks and flashcards. They have so much untapped potential that the developers never utilized and it's really sad to see that go to waste.

Go jailbreaking.

FireGrey · Apr 21, 2012

umm, isn't it illegal?
nothing would change unless it was enforced.
also, nice grammar

AbdallahTerro · Apr 21, 2012

I got suspended 3 times for posting a modified ninty's channel and after reading this post.... well.... I think it was not fair.

Hielkenator · Apr 21, 2012

AbdallahTerro said:
I got suspended 3 times for posting a modified ninty's channel and after reading this post.... well.... I think it was not fair.

Stop it, YOU POSTED illigal stuff.
This topic asks about a rhetorical opinion.
You acctually provided stuff. Huge difference.

JoostinOnline · Apr 21, 2012

FireGrey said:
umm, isn't it illegal?

It depends on the country.

AbdallahTerro said:
I got suspended 3 times for posting a modified ninty's channel and after reading this post.... well.... I think it was not fair.

You deserve to get suspended again for that post. You distributed pirated material, and didn't learn your lesson the first time. I don't understand why you weren't banned after all the warnings you got.

icw35 · Apr 21, 2012

One word. Capitalsim. Can't live with it, can't live without it...hmmm...sounds like my wife

Anon10W1z · Apr 21, 2012

I would mod it. It's not like the FBI is gonna storm into my house every day to check if my Wii was modded.

Mantis41 · Apr 21, 2012

You would be amazed at how many times we all break the law everyday.

Hacking If hacking your wii was illegal?

What would you do?

Be a rebel and hack the shit out of it.

Be straight edge and leave it as the manufacture intended.

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