Rumour Next Xbox Plays Blu-Rays and blocks used games

FireGrey · Jan 26, 2012

What if your system breaks and or your account is hacked (if the games are linked to your account).
No thanks Xbox, I guess it's a decision between Wii U, Gaming PC and PS4 for me now.

gloweyjoey · Jan 26, 2012

chris888222 said:
gloweyjoey said:

Come on. this sounds fake. I mean how can the system differentiate a used game from a new game. Isn't a game no longer "new" after being used once. So how would the system know if the game im using was used before by my friend or something. Unless they tied the game to console, but even then there would need to be some sort of indicating factor on the disc itself(serial number?) to attach it to a console, but if I was going to play the now "used" game on another system, wouldn't it then need to check it against some kind of database in order to check if it's "used", which likely would be over the internet, which can be disabled or non existant. I duno.This sounds like a crock.

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The previous posters did mention about the usage of CODES.

I'll take it as a pinch of salt right now, because it does sound really unlike Microsoft.

Yeah someone did mention something about internet registration and the source article from kataku says pretty much what I said so whats your point?

It actually does sound like something Microsoft would do, but I doubt they would be able to implement a solid "anti-used game system" if thats even what they were really trying to implement.

chris888222 · Jan 26, 2012

gloweyjoey said:
chris888222 said:

gloweyjoey said:

Come on. this sounds fake. I mean how can the system differentiate a used game from a new game. Isn't a game no longer "new" after being used once. So how would the system know if the game im using was used before by my friend or something. Unless they tied the game to console, but even then there would need to be some sort of indicating factor on the disc itself(serial number?) to attach it to a console, but if I was going to play the now "used" game on another system, wouldn't it then need to check it against some kind of database in order to check if it's "used", which likely would be over the internet, which can be disabled or non existant. I duno.This sounds like a crock.

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The previous posters did mention about the usage of CODES.

I'll take it as a pinch of salt right now, because it does sound really unlike Microsoft.

Click to expand...

Yeah someone did mention something about internet registration and the source article from kataku says pretty much what I said so whats your point?

It actually does sound like something Microsoft would do, but I doubt they would be able to implement a solid "anti-used game system" if thats even what they were really trying to implement.

The codes was a reply to 'how would the system know if the game was used'. Didn't read the later part properly. My bad.

I really hope this is fake. This, with paid online and semi-region locking will really bring MS down a lot.

Frogman · Jan 26, 2012

I don't know about all this it all seems a bit off...
Anyway I think this should just be listed as a rumor and only taken with a pinch of salt.

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dmonkey21 · Jan 26, 2012

Honestly this doesn't HAVE to be that bad. Look at PC games: in almost all cases a key is required to install a game, and for most games to be played online you either need to buy a new copy of the game, or buy a used copy and purchase a new key from the manufacturer.
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However, then there's steam

Xbox already offers downloadable games from Xbox Live that are synced with your gamertag, just like steam, which IMO is awesome and is the future of gaming (and really any form of media nowadays looking at music and video 'cloud' based businesses).

If Xbox were to implement a system like steam's it would mean that once you bought a game and put it into your Xbox, that copy would be permanently linked to your account.

Now as we all know MS is M$ so it might not go that smoothly (like maybe even if a game is linked, they would still require you to keep the disc to be able to play it), but honestly if Xbox were to adopt a system like Steam's I think that would be infinitely better than the current situation, which is outdated in an age where we can just download the games to a harddrive without any need for other physical media. Just my 2cents

ShadowSoldier · Jan 26, 2012

Hop2089 said:
Blocking used games will not make this sell, congratulations Microsoft on blocking 50% of your market, you earned this.

Where the hell did you get this number? And lets just run with it that it is true, if 50% is buying used games, Microsoft isn't making any money anyways. So who cares what percent is buying used games if you're not making a profit.

DarkLG · Jan 26, 2012

This is terrible no one now indays keeps their games(some do) .This whole used game system thingy if implemented is only their for them to make more money so stupid.

Bladexdsl · Jan 26, 2012

1st they sell out to $ony with a brd player and than they decide they don't want anything to do with used games?!

pack up and leave m$ it's over for you

if it's true

Jennyfurr · Jan 26, 2012

Well if it's true that it can't play used games.. I won't buy it o.O

notmeanymore · Jan 26, 2012

For the life of me, I can't figure out how used game blocking would work for offline consoles. The Xbox can't make changes to the disk's data without adding a BD-RW drive, and that would be too much of a cost.

As for online play, it could easily work as buying something from Live Marketplace to play the game.

This raises more questions. What's the game associated with? A GamerTag or a console? Or both? If both, would it not work just like the Games on Demand exploit people are using? Put an account onto your console; play the games associated with that account.

If it's just associated with my GamerTag, how will siblings play singleplayer games on an Xbox without buying 2 copies?
If it's just associated with my console, what happens when I buy another console? Do I have to re-purchase rights to play my games?

Given how the WiiU will probably not be a "hardcore" console, and how Sony is insecure with data, if this rumor of blocking used games is true, it's time for Sega to make another console.

RchUncleSkeleton · Jan 26, 2012

If they block used games they better lower the price to $15 for new games. Not that I really care since I've never played nor cared about the Original Xbox or 360.

FluffyLunamoth · Jan 26, 2012

No used games? Well, no new Xbox for me, then. There aren't enough sales running around for games, like they do on Steam. Games are hideously expensive otherwise, or just not worth the money. Devs' need to stop being so damn greedy, especially when their games make millions anyway(AAA titles).

Veho · Jan 26, 2012

Microsoft initially sold the Xbox360 at a loss and covered the losses with software sales. And it worked, so there's reason to beieve they will employ the same strategy with the next console. And if they're depending on software sales to make a profit, I can see where they might be less than happy with people playing games without giving them a dime.

T-hug · Jan 26, 2012

Poll of the Day
How would you feel about a game console that blocked you from playing used games?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4610

Ryupower · Jan 26, 2012

blocked used games
also
blocks game renting(GameFly) and letting frineds borrow games

blocking used games=Bad idea

Bladexdsl · Jan 26, 2012

ThugATRON said:
Poll of the Day
How would you feel about a game console that blocked you from playing used games?

http://www.gamefaqs.....html?poll=4610

zomg

Gahars · Jan 26, 2012

I can't see Microsoft actually going through with the whole "block used games" thing; they have to know that a good chunk of their customers would flee to Sony or Nintendo if that ever went through.

The Blu-Ray player is welcome news, though. I just hope that it will be backwards compatible with 360 and (longshot, but still) original Xbox games.

Guild McCommunist · Jan 26, 2012

I seriously, seriously doubt the used games thing will follow through. Microsoft hasn't implemented online passes on any of their games (last time I checked) and while used games sales still suck some sales out of whatever company made the game, there's still the magical wonder known as "DLC". Not only can you profit off of used games after they hit the market but you can use it as a way to entice people into buying the game new. Like let's take a look at Mass Effect 2 and Alan Wake. Both of the titles are basically single player only which makes an online pass null and void. But both games, if you purchased them new, came with a code for some DLC (Mass Effect 2 with the Cerberus Network and Alan Wake with its first piece of DLC). You can of course purchase those pieces of DLC separately but why pay $20 for a used copy of Alan Wake (random number off the top of my head) and $10 for the DLC when you can pay $30 for a new copy of the game with the DLC included.

GENIUS.

Ultymoo · Jan 26, 2012

Huh. This is one rumor I'm hoping Microsoft isn't stupid enough to indulge. Though, if used games are blocked, whatever hacker(s) are pro enough to get into the system after x days/months/years of its release will likely work on knocking that out asap.

Hop2089 · Jan 26, 2012

Ultymoo said:
Huh. This is one rumor I'm hoping Microsoft isn't stupid enough to indulge. Though, if used games are blocked, whatever hacker(s) are pro enough to get into the system after x days/months/years of its release will likely work on knocking that out asap.

Everyone would be downloading the hacks if this did happen in the final product, then M$ would be forced to make a patch to disable the used games lock.

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