PS Vita Hopes To Prevent Piracy With Closed Memory Format

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comparing this new format with iTunes may not have been the best thing to do. iTunes is just trash! it doesn't have a lot of the most basic features one who owns an ipod would expect.

personally, I hope sony fails...and fails hard! it's about time they got what was coming to them. they've screwed over so many customers over the past few years that they really need to be taught a lesson rather than a slap on the wrist. I wish the psn fiasco had gotten sony sued into oblivion.
 

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To be honest I understand Sony's effort to prevent piracy with their memory cards. Just look what the open memory sticks have done to the PSP. And using a special program to access the memory cards through the PSV isn't that bad.

The only deal breaker for me are the prices and that some games require a memory card to save.
 

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flashcarts anyone?


To be honest I understand Sony's effort to prevent piracy with their memory cards. Just look what the open memory sticks have done to the PSP. And using a special program to access the memory cards through the PSV isn't that bad.

The only deal breaker for me are the prices and that some games require a memory card to save.
reminds me of the wii WBFS stuff
it's pretty possible, even if there isn't a port pirates will make adaptaters (GO!GO! china)
 

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do i smell dax? lol

the keys were the issue with psp and ps3. if they were dumb enough to make a fool of themselves once they will do it again. heres to psv being hacked on day one :)
 

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What about Linux users ?

I really don't like terminal programs needed to access devices, like Itunes or specific phones (Sony ericson) transfer programs.

At least, Ipods could be connected on computer without Itunes, and the content was listed on FAT32 drives, though you couldn't add content accessible from Ipod's menu, it was only meant as a storage. The only "security" was the files were all renamed and scrambled.
I didn't like the synchronisation program from Itunes, which deleted computer's files if you deleted ipod's content from another itune'd computer.

Synch was a bad thing, manual user operation is always easier and better.
But I understand that a lot of people don't even understand how computer/HDD/folder/files system are working, and launching a program which list savegames and content will be easier for them.
But they could allow both choices, just encrypt your files per storage device, like the 3DS.


There are USB hub sniffer too, the protocol and filesystem will certainly be reversed.
It's just a matter of time.
 

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If the proprietary tool itself is going to be used on Windows to mount their closed memory format, then they have no hopes actually.
That shit will get reverse-engineered pretty quickly and then users may be able to upload things to the Vita as they please.
 

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If the proprietary tool itself is going to be used on Windows to mount their closed memory format, then they have no hopes actually.
That shit will get reverse-engineered pretty quickly and then users may be able to upload things to the Vita as they please.
I hope for the day to come.
 

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If the proprietary tool itself is going to be used on Windows to mount their closed memory format, then they have no hopes actually.
That shit will get reverse-engineered pretty quickly and then users may be able to upload things to the Vita as they please.
I hope for the day to come.
Like I said, on Windows? More than likely, this isn't a closed platform like their own, people know what they're doing with it.
 

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I have this weird feeling that they're so confident about that software working, that they didn't really put extra security into the games which is going to screw them over.
 

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Sony is just asking for hackers to challenge their 'anti-piracy' gimmick. Do you know that each time you say 'X is unhackable' that there's ALWAYS a hacker that put their freakin' heart and soul just to prove you wrong.

Advice: Don't say it's unhackable to not get butthurt.
 

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Don't know if you guys knew this or not, but it is possible to copy and add content from an iPod via the terminal without using the iTunes media library. This makes it possible to, for example, copy all the mp3's from your friends iPod without having the delete everything when connecting to the computer. This doesn't even need any kind of "hacking", just a few normal commands using terminal. I don't know how they plan to add this feature on the OS, but as far as I know, the same is possible with Windows. Unless it's protected heavily, this won't prevent access to the memory card in any way.

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That's the current state of things, as was stated, but for a while you couldn't (while still letting the ipod's software access the disc).

comparing this new format with iTunes may not have been the best thing to do. iTunes is just trash! it doesn't have a lot of the most basic features one who owns an ipod would expect.
What? It's the same sort of deal, they're trying to lock users into using a specific program to write to the device.

To be honest I understand Sony's effort to prevent piracy with their memory cards. Just look what the open memory sticks have done to the PSP.
Yeah, with a program like this they can update it quicker than the Vita's firmware, so if an exploit was found they could quickly push out a forced software update to make it not transfer those known files...

Of course on the PC there's ways you could fake no updates and such (hosts file with custom server giving specific response), but that's a lot of workaround for the average user, and hell they might include some sort of DRM rootkit and/or have the thing access via IP instead of hostname or crap. I wouldn't put it past Sony to try to lock this thing down tighter than some MMOs we see, we've seen time and time again how batshit-crazy they are with DRM stuff.

And the bad thing about that is the DMCA would make cracking it illegal as far as I know.

What about Linux users ?
They can't easily install a rootkit into your system and expect it to stay functional, so...

At least, Ipods could be connected on computer without Itunes, and the content was listed on FAT32 drives, though you couldn't add content accessible from Ipod's menu, it was only meant as a storage. The only "security" was the files were all renamed and scrambled.
That was if you put the device into disc mode, it wasn't the normal operation everybody was familiar with.

I didn't like the synchronisation program from Itunes, which deleted computer's files if you deleted ipod's content from another itune'd computer.
Yeah, synching can go to hell. Not only is it a pain in that way, but it also stops normal users from learning how to manage their files, which is a core computer concept I see more than more people totally unfamiliar with.
 

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It's just an excuse guys.

Vita is, by all accounts, a device extremely well priced if we look what it packs inside it (it's really impressive on it's tech, using almost last generation options for it). Sony is selling it at loss, it was kinda of obvious they would try to gain money somewhere. Somewhere being the overpriced memory card prices.

It's here incovenient... 16 and 32GB are too pricey for most of the people (except Sony enthusiasts, aka fanboys). But the prices for 4/8GB is acceptable... $40 is the price of a game for it...

It's pretty bullshit that some games make obligatory the use of one too. =/

If I buy one, I'll get an 8GB first. Later, when the prices are better (or someone make an alternative one), I'll get another one (32GB, probably).
 

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um, protecting against piracy...Sony is aware that there system will and probably is going to be hacked and soft modded sometime down the road, Right? Right?....lol
 

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Wow, Sony is just asking to be hacked. Why in the world would you put out a claim like that? That just an open challenge to hackers.
Hope Sony loses that challenge..
 

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Wow, Sony is just asking to be hacked. Why in the world would you put out a claim like that? That just an open challenge to hackers.
Hope Sony loses that challenge..
So you can use your "homebrews", right? Yeah... sure... "homebrews"...
 

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It's here incovenient... 16 and 32GB are too pricey for most of the people (except Sony enthusiasts, aka fanboys). But the prices for 4/8GB is acceptable... $40 is the price of a game for it...

None of the prices are acceptable, even the 4/8GB. 25$ for 4 GB is way overpriced, especially when USB flash drives of 4GB can easily be found at less than 10$.
 

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