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I dont know about those idiots but the first thing I do is look at the serial number to see if boot1 is vulnerable to install bootmii in boot2, and if the dvd drive plays burnt discs. A korean wii would pop right out in the open unless some dick changes s/n stickers. In that case I would get my money back.
Bricking is for darwin's athletes. The only valid bricks in my eyes are the ones developers get when they do somehting intentionally that they know has a strong chance of bricking your wii, for the further understanding and development of their software. But banner bricks that happened because noone cared to check if it was created correctly, or updating a region changed wii? Its the equivalent to a mouse walking onto a mousetrap. Every application out there that has even 0.01% risk of the most stupid idiots to brick, have strong and very clear warnings about it. So instead of chalking it up to be the fault of one application or another, chalk it up to the dude who bricked most of the time is just a jackass who is in too much of a hurry to read their tv screen.
OFC I know this will result in an attempt to start a flame war from JoostinOffline, but i will not respond to this post after I have said my peice. He is banned from most wii channels on irc for a reason.
A little bit of knowledge for anyone who wonders why a developer will never let their applications take the blame, nor will they take the responsibility on their own shoulders for a brick, is not because there is no brick potential, its because you were fully warned before hand. If you feel a developer is letting your complaints fall on deaf ears or your issues are non existent, then their response should be heard not as "I am all knowing", but rather "You did something stupid, and you were warned, so stop bothering me".
BTW, If I had knew "B.L.I.N.D" was a copy of some other application that is still actively developed and supported, I wouldn't have helped with a damn thing on it. Any noob can change a title and add 2 lines to an existing application and expect credit for themselves. Thats not how you get any respect though.
now, lets see the inevitable one-sided flame war fall on closed ears, but make sure to bring the marshmellows.
Bricking is for darwin's athletes. The only valid bricks in my eyes are the ones developers get when they do somehting intentionally that they know has a strong chance of bricking your wii, for the further understanding and development of their software. But banner bricks that happened because noone cared to check if it was created correctly, or updating a region changed wii? Its the equivalent to a mouse walking onto a mousetrap. Every application out there that has even 0.01% risk of the most stupid idiots to brick, have strong and very clear warnings about it. So instead of chalking it up to be the fault of one application or another, chalk it up to the dude who bricked most of the time is just a jackass who is in too much of a hurry to read their tv screen.
OFC I know this will result in an attempt to start a flame war from JoostinOffline, but i will not respond to this post after I have said my peice. He is banned from most wii channels on irc for a reason.
A little bit of knowledge for anyone who wonders why a developer will never let their applications take the blame, nor will they take the responsibility on their own shoulders for a brick, is not because there is no brick potential, its because you were fully warned before hand. If you feel a developer is letting your complaints fall on deaf ears or your issues are non existent, then their response should be heard not as "I am all knowing", but rather "You did something stupid, and you were warned, so stop bothering me".
BTW, If I had knew "B.L.I.N.D" was a copy of some other application that is still actively developed and supported, I wouldn't have helped with a damn thing on it. Any noob can change a title and add 2 lines to an existing application and expect credit for themselves. Thats not how you get any respect though.
now, lets see the inevitable one-sided flame war fall on closed ears, but make sure to bring the marshmellows.
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But how would you know it was a Korean Wii? Lol.
What are you talking about?
BLIND has quite a few changes, but I make it very clear that it's based on jskyboo's Wii Mod. You didn't help me at all btw. You tried to help me add support for backing up Priiloader, but everytime you tried something it just caused BLIND to crash.
Please stop trying to start a flame war.
between 1.0.7 and 1.0.8 there was this moment where cioscorp/darkcorp tried to bypass the hackmii installer's checks for ios. in a rare case something would go wrong and brick. thats why they now do a RSA signature check you know
by checking what the s/n sticker says? by NOT updating at all cause updating is always dangerous ? (or, the best off all; never buy something that is cheap as hell or second handed. and if its from a real gaming shop, sue them )
are you really that stupid not to get the hint from miigotu?
o and btw, i didn't say 2 other ways of knowing if the wii is really korean or not. go figure them out will ya
Yes...
And at the end it is allways your own responsibility, just try to read up and ask questions BEFORE you begin..
And at the end it is allways your own responsibility, just try to read up and ask questions BEFORE you begin..
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He said if someone had CHANGED the case, which is quite common. There is no hardware change between regions, so the only way to determine if it was Korean (besides updating) would be to somehow check the SEEPROM. You can't judge by the price since they are sold as regular Wii's once region changed, and telling people to only buy a new Wii is unreasonable.
Also, Miigotu is pro-updating. He says that it is completely safe and will not cause a brick. According to him, he knows all about the update that will come with Zelda and that it will be required to do so, lol. I asked him for a source, but he just told me to shut up.
You do realize that in many countries local video games stores used to sell them as the only wiis . I bought my wii in 2008 when I was in saudia arabia & back then all available wiis in the market were region changed koreans with modchips . Only big stores sold official wiis back then & it was for about 400$ which was way too much.
Also its not really that obvious to figure out from the box . The box was in english , the manual had english & the wii menu was in english . The only thing that made me know its korean was the sticker on its back but most people don't notice that.
Finally lets say people knew it was region changed they will still keep it . Paying nearly the price of another wii so you can get a wii with no modchip sounds like a horrible idea to most people even to those who knows about the risks.
Lets not forget all the markets in the world where the wii is unavailable, like China, they want wii to and they get region changed Korean wiis.
I guess this makes me a liar, by posting back here. Whatever.
The bottom line is this stuff isn't for stupid people. And advice shouldn't be taken from close minded people who think there is only one way to look at it. Most people know if they have a region changed wii or not, and there are ways to update it correctly. And most people know there is a minute chance that an official update of boot2 has a minute risk of bricking. But that doesn't mean you should press your own fear on other people by telling them they cannot or should not do something. Instead they should simply know all of the risks and ways they may achieve either answer correctly, regardless of what they choose to do. Simply because of the fact that in the end its their fault if they brick it. Not the developer, not the application. People should learn for themselves instead of listening to a 14 year old who is desperate to gain respect. The stress developers have put wii's under, taking risks of bricks and still coming out ok in the end, should show you what a proper knowledge does. Knowledge shouldn't breed fear, it should give you a sense of confidence.
Bottom line is either you are a leader or a follower, and you should be careful of who you follow or they may only teach you how to be a better FOLLOWER. And a LEADER takes full responsibility for his own actions.
The bottom line is this stuff isn't for stupid people. And advice shouldn't be taken from close minded people who think there is only one way to look at it. Most people know if they have a region changed wii or not, and there are ways to update it correctly. And most people know there is a minute chance that an official update of boot2 has a minute risk of bricking. But that doesn't mean you should press your own fear on other people by telling them they cannot or should not do something. Instead they should simply know all of the risks and ways they may achieve either answer correctly, regardless of what they choose to do. Simply because of the fact that in the end its their fault if they brick it. Not the developer, not the application. People should learn for themselves instead of listening to a 14 year old who is desperate to gain respect. The stress developers have put wii's under, taking risks of bricks and still coming out ok in the end, should show you what a proper knowledge does. Knowledge shouldn't breed fear, it should give you a sense of confidence.
Bottom line is either you are a leader or a follower, and you should be careful of who you follow or they may only teach you how to be a better FOLLOWER. And a LEADER takes full responsibility for his own actions.
There was a thread that came up quite a few months back about someone asking how to find out if a wii was a korean wii and someone (I think maybe WiiPower) made an app that will check the EEPROM for the korean key.
Well, thats all I have to contribute to this conversation.
Well, thats all I have to contribute to this conversation.
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No Miigotu, most people do NOT know that they have a region changed Wii.
Back on topic, I believe that DacoTaco does provide plenty of warning about the risks going along with installing Priiloader. I certainly don't like him as a person, but he has made great contributions to the homebrew community and does not deserve blame for any damage done to a Wii as a result of Priiloader.
I think I was the one who distributed that (Mii Korean by Wii Crazy) to the user (there have been so many threads, lol), but it tends to give false positives.
Back on topic, I believe that DacoTaco does provide plenty of warning about the risks going along with installing Priiloader. I certainly don't like him as a person, but he has made great contributions to the homebrew community and does not deserve blame for any damage done to a Wii as a result of Priiloader.
What?!?!? What has he done besides half-assed a few features into a great program that was created by someone else?
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I think continuing Preloader was a great thing. It's not just what you add, it's providing updates and support. He did add quite a bit though. Take a look at Priiloader's changelog.
fixed multiple things in libogc for one, changing preloader (which had some issues and lacked good features) into priiloader is another
then there are other small programs he made which can be usefull for some people. they are just not usable(or released) by stupid ppl like gbafail that only think about piracy and brick recovery
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Hating brick recovery (and helping others in general)? Now I'm sure that you are DacoTaco.
You always make it clear that you don't like temp, so why don't you leave?
So just in case the mods wanted to check (since daco is banned and all), that post you just made wasn't from 178.119.130.34 ?
Edit: ok, you're a proxy who joined the site right after Daco was banned, your username matches the username in Daco's IRC client, you have an uncanny knack for posting minutes after Daco shows up on IRC each day and you use the same bad grammar as he does. It's really pathetic that you think this charade is fooling anyone.
The problem with Priiloader is when it started to be one of the mandatory step in every "soft-mod" solutions or "unlock" tutorials out there.
At a result, it ended up being installed in many Wiis when most users probably never needed it in the first place, and most likely does not understand what it exactly does and how dangerous it can be.
Preloader was a neat idea (like many hacking stuff are) and even if I can't speak for DacoTaco's coding ability or seriousness, priiloader sure has some interesting features but this program should never has been advertised like it has been.
At a result, it ended up being installed in many Wiis when most users probably never needed it in the first place, and most likely does not understand what it exactly does and how dangerous it can be.
Preloader was a neat idea (like many hacking stuff are) and even if I can't speak for DacoTaco's coding ability or seriousness, priiloader sure has some interesting features but this program should never has been advertised like it has been.
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