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tom10122 said:
machomuu said:
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All the people who are saying this is fake because there's no hello world, no menus, no region-free:

IT IS NOT HOMEBREW!

That's why it won't allow you to play games from different region than your console's, why there is only one game at a flash playable, most importantly why there is no menu and "Hello World". It won't allow people to run custom, unsigned code on the 3DS, just pirated/backed up copies of retail games.

Please, find another argument, then call it fake. I'm not saying it is real, but the lack of region unlocking and homebrew doesn't make it fake.
The Acekard isn't homebrew, neither is the DSTWO, or any of the other flashcarts. That said, I can still play One Piece Gigant Battle on them. Pokemon BW in Japanese, too.

Despite the fact that I'm not a fan of this phrase, practice what you preach and :
QUOTEPlease, find another argument
they can still play homebrew though, if this is real it CAN play homebrew, the homebrew just needs to be "signed"


P.S FULL 3D MINECRAFT!!!!!!!!!

Good luck signing a piece of software without the proper tools. Hell, good luck designing homebrew for a largely unexplored console. It's going to be years until we start seeing true quality homebrew.
 

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mysticwaterfall said:
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Why is no one breaking this whole demonstration down?

I'm going to call it a fake, unless they can provide new video of the following..

Show me the bottom of this specific 3ds so I can clearly see what country it's for.. ie CTR-001(USA) or whatever it is..

Then play a game from a DIFFERENT region.. if it's a JPN model, I want to see ANY US/EURO english ONLY game playing on it.. If it's a USA/EURO model then I want to see a JAPAN region game playing on it! PERIOD! NO EXCEPTIONS!

Sorry but if they can't do this, it's either a 100% fake, or they can't figure out how to run non regional games on whatever specific model the 3DS is made for. Which in that case it's pretty much useless to EURO's who want to play either US/JPN and for US to play JPN/EURO and of course JPN to play US/EURO..

I CALL B.S.!!! We saw this same video from the other group MONTHS ago and nothing surfaced.. really now.. think about it..

Actually, if it works by doing a 1:1 copy, it could still be real while being region locked, since the region is in the header data. I don't see what the region has to with anything about this being real, even though I do have other doubts about the video.

Then why didn't the video explain that it could not play 1:1 games on different 3DS models? What is their plan, to release 3 SKU's for each country @$99 each?? So at a minimum we all need to buy at least one more 3DS from a different region and at least one of these cards, more than likely two for those that really want it for both regions.. How retarded is that? Yeah, I definitely see the sales drumming up well.. Everyone here wants region unlocking for the very reason I just stated.. Who wants to or has the cash for another 3DS and two of these cards? Ridiculous... I'm just saying.. not arguing with you, but it makes sense, yes?
 

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BadBloke said:
All the people who are saying this is fake because there's no hello world, no menus, no region-free:

IT IS NOT HOMEBREW!

That's why it won't allow you to play games from different region than your console's, why there is only one game at a flash playable, most importantly why there is no menu and "Hello World". It won't allow people to run custom, unsigned code on the 3DS, just pirated/backed up copies of retail games.

Please, find another argument, then call it fake. I'm not saying it is real, but the lack of region unlocking and homebrew doesn't make it fake.


I totally agree this could be the case that it's only running on their region 3DS and a game from that region, but look at my previous post.. it's really only useful for your own region.. otherwise start taking out a loan to get those Japanese games or early US releases...
 

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vdoggie said:
mysticwaterfall said:
vdoggie said:
Why is no one breaking this whole demonstration down?

I'm going to call it a fake, unless they can provide new video of the following..

Show me the bottom of this specific 3ds so I can clearly see what country it's for.. ie CTR-001(USA) or whatever it is..

Then play a game from a DIFFERENT region.. if it's a JPN model, I want to see ANY US/EURO english ONLY game playing on it.. If it's a USA/EURO model then I want to see a JAPAN region game playing on it! PERIOD! NO EXCEPTIONS!

Sorry but if they can't do this, it's either a 100% fake, or they can't figure out how to run non regional games on whatever specific model the 3DS is made for. Which in that case it's pretty much useless to EURO's who want to play either US/JPN and for US to play JPN/EURO and of course JPN to play US/EURO..

I CALL B.S.!!! We saw this same video from the other group MONTHS ago and nothing surfaced.. really now.. think about it..

Actually, if it works by doing a 1:1 copy, it could still be real while being region locked, since the region is in the header data. I don't see what the region has to with anything about this being real, even though I do have other doubts about the video.

Then why didn't the video explain that it could not play 1:1 games on different 3DS models? What is their plan, to release 3 SKU's for each country @$99 each?? So at a minimum we all need to buy at least one more 3DS from a different region and at least one of these cards, more than likely two for those that really want it for both regions.. How retarded is that? Yeah, I definitely see the sales drumming up well.. Everyone here wants region unlocking for the very reason I just stated.. Who wants to or has the cash for another 3DS and two of these cards? Ridiculous... I'm just saying.. not arguing with you, but it makes sense, yes?
$99 is just a placeholder no one knows the actual price as of now
 

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imho, i say support homebrew community and piracy should just be on the down low... imho... it's cool seeing hobbyists make use of new technologies
 

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There are so many comments on the youtube video about this now
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It does look pretty legit to me. If it is true , I'll buy the flashcart, but not at $99. It'll probably go down to $50 in a months time or less.
 

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I just want to say that I'm not for or against pirating games, but I am one of the few people who play games solely to beat them. That accomplished feeling you get when you see the end credits roll is the most satisfying thing I get from video games. Yes, I play them to have fun along the way but, once I am done with a game, that's it. I am not going to play it anymore unless it is something like an open world game where I can just screw around (al la GTA Series).

The reason I am subscribed to Gamefly is the same: I don't want to have to pay full price for a game that I am either just going to let sit on mu shelf and deteriorate in value, or sell it as soon as I am done. It seems like a waste of money and time, so if (stress on if") I pirated games, it would be because I do not intend on actually "owning" the game for more than a couple of days (or weeks in some cases).

If money is the issue, then shouldn't video game companies be more occupied with sites like "eBay" in which there can be many transactions involving the same game, where the developer sees none of the revenue? Piracy is a problem but only a small percentage of the "gamers" actually do it, or even know that it exists.

I mean really, what 14 year old Middle America kid do you know that will, find out, learn the risks, and then proceed to do anything that has to do with hacking games? If I asked my 15 year old cousin (who owns both a DS and a Wii) if she knew anything about hacking them in order to get free games, I highly doubt she'd even think it was possible.

Bottom line, if piracy was such a huge deal since the GBA, why is it that games like Gears of War, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Uncharted 2 sell so well? It's cause they have enough of a fanbase to not have to worry about the small percentage that actually pirate their games. Lesser names on the other hand have it harder, sure, but has that stopped publishers like Aksys, NIS America, and Atlus from bringing games over to where piracy is a big problem? No.

Real bottom line: Piracy isn't a big deal.
 

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Byronic Hero said:
I just want to say that I'm not for or against pirating games, but I am one of the few people who play games solely to beat them. That accomplished feeling you get when you see the end credits roll is the most satisfying thing I get from video games. Yes, I play them to have fun along the way but, once I am done with a game, that's it. I am not going to play it anymore unless it is something like an open world game where I can just screw around (al la GTA Series).

The reason I am subscribed to Gamefly is the same: I don't want to have to pay full price for a game that I am either just going to let sit on mu shelf and deteriorate in value, or sell it as soon as I am done. It seems like a waste of money and time, so if (stress on if") I pirated games, it would be because I do not intend on actually "owning" the game for more than a couple of days (or weeks in some cases).

If money is the issue, then shouldn't video game companies be more occupied with sites like "eBay" in which there can be many transactions involving the same game, where the developer sees none of the revenue? Piracy is a problem but only a small percentage of the "gamers" actually do it, or even know that it exists.

I mean really, what 14 year old Middle America kid do you know that will, find out, learn the risks, and then proceed to do anything that has to do with hacking games? If I asked my 15 year old cousin (who owns both a DS and a Wii) if she knew anything about hacking them in order to get free games, I highly doubt she'd even think it was possible.

Bottom line, if piracy was such a huge deal since the GBA, why is it that games like Gears of War, Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Uncharted 2 sell so well? It's cause they have enough of a fanbase to not have to worry about the small percentage that actually pirate their games. Lesser names on the other hand have it harder, sure, but has that stopped publishers like Aksys, NIS America, and Atlus from bringing games over to where piracy is a big problem? No.

Real bottom line: Piracy isn't a big deal.

If only half the people realized this....and stopped saying " Q.Q now its going to get only shovelware" BS. Its like they think people who make shovelware DONT want to make money too. If everyone was pirating even they would not make games. The people who know about hacking are pretty tiny in the grand scheme and the people who do it are even less then that. If it was so insane then the PC alone would never see a game, because if anywhere, its the worst there.
 

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well luckily 3ds games can be acquired for far less than the $39.99 MSRP that they are suppose to command. I thought that was a bit much since you can't pirate this system anyway and anyone who wants to play its games has to pay. I think $29.99 MSRP would have been well suited for this. So it was a little bit of a let down. I have acquired every game, most of them new, for under 30 bucks each but the 39.99 price still sticks out like a sore thumb on the major retailer sites.

the only way to thwart piracy is from the beginning on with low prices and this just hasn't been done on anything besides the iphone come to think of it.
 

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amptor said:
well luckily 3ds games can be acquired for far less than the $39.99 MSRP that they are suppose to command. I thought that was a bit much since you can't pirate this system anyway and anyone who wants to play its games has to pay. I think $29.99 MSRP would have been well suited for this. So it was a little bit of a let down. I have acquired every game, most of them new, for under 30 bucks each but the 39.99 price still sticks out like a sore thumb on the major retailer sites.

the only way to thwart piracy is from the beginning on with low prices and this just hasn't been done on anything besides the iphone come to think of it.
Only in North America and certain parts of Europe. Everywhere else, games are at $50USD and often higher.
 

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machomuu said:
BadBloke said:
All the people who are saying this is fake because there's no hello world, no menus, no region-free:

IT IS NOT HOMEBREW!

That's why it won't allow you to play games from different region than your console's, why there is only one game at a flash playable, most importantly why there is no menu and "Hello World". It won't allow people to run custom, unsigned code on the 3DS, just pirated/backed up copies of retail games.

Please, find another argument, then call it fake. I'm not saying it is real, but the lack of region unlocking and homebrew doesn't make it fake.
The Acekard isn't homebrew, neither is the DSTWO, or any of the other flashcarts. That said, I can still play One Piece Gigant Battle on them. Pokemon BW in Japanese, too.

Despite the fact that I'm not a fan of this phrase, practice what you preach and :
QUOTEPlease, find another argument

Technically you are right, but AceKard and all other current flash carts use savegame exploits. When you use exploits you don't need homebrew to be signed, because the ROM+SAV that is exploited is already signed, and it only checks signatures for signed code at the launch of the cart so when a savegame exploit is booted up, since for example R4i SDHC 3DS, uses a clean ROM it is read as signed, then through the exploit in the save we can execute homebrew (Hello World or etc) because the ROM passed the signature checking as it was loaded so the signature is "valid" throughout gameplay, including homebrew.

This cart *appears* to take a different route. It doesn't use a savegame exploit, and thus it cannot run unsigned code atm. The 3DS ROM header's make the region lock, so when attempting to load the CCI (3DS ROM Image) if the 3DS sees a different region code in the header it will stop/cancel loading it.

Because this supposedly flashes a CCI onto the cart at a time that region code in the header is still read, and cannot be launched unless the 3DS accepts that region code.

Theoretically speaking if/when more is found out about the CCI files it may be possible to hack the files to modify the region code so they can play JP on EU/US or anywhere on any region but not atm


Also AFAIK: booting different region ROMs in DS mode DOES NOT COUNT AS A REGION-FREE HACK. DS-mode games have no region protection and therefore any region'd DS (not DSi-enhanced, DSi-only, or 3DS) game can run on any region DS/DSi/3DS. For example, the cooking coach hack doesn't work in JP DSi's because of the region lock, but with the US/EU region DSi/3DS it can boot the Pokemon BW Japanese on a US/EU DSi/3DS in DSi-mode. Although this can be done with AceKard/etc they run in DS-mode, not DSi-enhanced mode.

Basically any DSi/3DS game is region locked (though DSi-enhanced games like Pokemon BW can be run on a DS region-free, but not on a DSi/3DS), so you'd have to have a CCI with your 3DS's region (US/EU/JP) using this cartridge "Crown3DS" if it is real.


I'm no expert with hacking but I know about region-locking.
 

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if this is real i'm not getting it.i rather wait for a cyclo3DS or a supercard3DS.once this comes out and is playing 3DS games, i'm sure all the well known flash cards will all come out with a 3DS card.i don't want to see this come out and find out it stops getting updates out after it gets blocked.
 

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fst312 said:
if this is real i'm not getting it.i rather wait for a cyclo3DS or a supercard3DS.once this comes out and is playing 3DS games, i'm sure all the well known flash cards will all come out with a 3DS card.i don't want to see this come out and find out it stops getting updates out after it gets blocked.
that may never happen, they say they are working hard to prevent their secrets from getting out

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QUOTE(BortzANATOR @ Sep 17 2011, 04:13 AM) For 100 ill just buy the games
again people JUST a placeholder that's not the real price
 

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fst312 said:
if this is real i'm not getting it.i rather wait for a cyclo3DS or a supercard3DS.once this comes out and is playing 3DS games, i'm sure all the well known flash cards will all come out with a 3DS card.i don't want to see this come out and find out it stops getting updates out after it gets blocked.

Agreed. Plus it would suck to buy a product and find out later that a similar one comes out with more features or better compatibility. Also, by the look of things, I doubt these guys are going to do open source firmwares like Acekard and others might.
 

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Requios said:
fst312 said:
if this is real i'm not getting it.i rather wait for a cyclo3DS or a supercard3DS.once this comes out and is playing 3DS games, i'm sure all the well known flash cards will all come out with a 3DS card.i don't want to see this come out and find out it stops getting updates out after it gets blocked.

Agreed. Plus it would suck to buy a product and find out later that a similar one comes out with more features or better compatibility. Also, by the look of things, I doubt these guys are going to do open source firmwares like Acekard and others might.
again might never happen i wouldn't count on it
 
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