Hacking Bricked DS Lite

Another World · Aug 17, 2011

UniqueGeek said:
If I remember correctly, all of the firmware on the DS lite is write-protected, so DS lites should be safe. Unlike the original ones where only part is write protected.

i think it was that the first ds lite firmware could be fully bricked but the later revisions the bricker could only reset wifi settings, or something like that. i honestly don't remember any longer, it has been a few years since i thought about it.

http://www.pocketheaven.com/ph/wiki/DS_Firmware
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_h...irmware_version

QUOTE(cobleman @ Aug 17 2011, 03:34 PM) how long should flashme take to install? It says if progress stops,the SL1 terminal needs to be shorted.
Can it only be installed with Slot2 Flashcart?

these guides should help you:
http://www.ndshb.com/modules.php?name=News...cle&sid=108
http://www.dspassme.com/FlashMe.shtml

-another world

Marlonguppy · Aug 17, 2011

osm70 said:
Hi today I downloaded Mario Party DS rom and tried to boot it using Cyclo DS Evolution.
It had correct header so I booted it ... and yelled OH SHIT because it was the Crashme file.
Is there anything I can do to fix it?

Yes, it's very simple.
Open the DS with a Philips Enlarged Corkscrew?, try opening the battery case.
When done, scratch off all stickers and melt the case a little bit with a lighter or a CE certified 60W glue gun.
Under the battery is a 4x4 TÜV/RoHS certified screw, this time you need to melt it with a concentrated high-temperature(around ~1300 Celsius) lighter.
Then when you finally opened up your NDS, place some wires randomly around some chips, solder them temporarily.
Then turn it on and finally profit!

Please try to take it serious. It does work, really!

Very simple indeed.

FAST6191 · Aug 17, 2011

All I will say is if this is true it took far longer to happen than I expected (if nothing else it has practically been possible all with relatively simple GUI tools for well over a year) to say nothing of the relative immaturity of the scanning methods.

Oh and if you are trying to find a way to get the firmware back on there is a hardware method
Page search for
ppflash.zip - Firmware recovery by parallel port. Soldering skills required!
http://darkfader.net/ds/

TLSS_N · Aug 17, 2011

cobleman said:
how long should flashme take to install? It says if progress stops,the SL1 terminal needs to be shorted.
Can it only be installed with Slot2 Flashcart?

a few years ago, half way through the installation. I was hit in the arm, lost contact with the SL1 and it bricked, I renamed the file extension in dsorganize to .gba and flashed it to NOR on another nds. poped it in, and it booted directly to slot two.

Yes, it will work on a slot two device, that is the reason I asked about it in this case. I just wanted to know if this method works on a fully bricked ds phat/lite.

Rayder · Aug 17, 2011

I wonder if a program like Microsoft Security Essentials would bust on it right away.

I'd be interested to see what this program said about that file:

http://filetrip.net/f572-NDSHeader-2-0.html

Anyway, it brings this song from TinyMonkeyT to mind:

http://episodes.gbatemp.net/Break_Your_Cart.MP3

RupeeClock · Aug 18, 2011

Rayder said:
I wonder if a program like Microsoft Security Essentials would bust on it right away.

I'd be interested to see what this program said about that file:

http://filetrip.net/f572-NDSHeader-2-0.html

There are so few malicious DS files that there can't be any heuristics for it at all, only known threats.
Don't limit it to just on Antivirus either, use virustotal.com to scan something using multiple virus databases.

nl255 · Aug 18, 2011

The Living Shadow said:
cobleman said:

how long should flashme take to install? It says if progress stops,the SL1 terminal needs to be shorted.
Can it only be installed with Slot2 Flashcart?

Click to expand...

a few years ago, half way through the installation. I was hit in the arm, lost contact with the SL1 and it bricked, I renamed the file extension in dsorganize to .gba and flashed it to NOR on another nds. poped it in, and it booted directly to slot two.

Yes, it will work on a slot two device, that is the reason I asked about it in this case. I just wanted to know if this method works on a fully bricked ds phat/lite.

Fortunately, once you get past the first 5% or so, the recovery code has already been written as that is the first thing to be written by flashme.

Akotan · Aug 18, 2011

Please, tell me I'm wrong.
How do any antivirus program will spot this malicious DS game code?
DS games aren't coded the same way as any Windows/Linux/Mac/other applications and antivirus are meant to check codes that could harm theses environments, am I right?

I can fully understand that somebody, that was bored and didn't have anything better to do, put his knowledge to work in something bizarre as this piece of garbage. But it was made to run on DSes, not on the OSes I cited before. I really can't see any antivirus spotting this garbage code...

Again, I can be wrong.

KidIce · Aug 18, 2011

You are incorrect. Every ant-ivirus program I have tried (or now use) over the past few years recognizes Taihen and r0mloader variants I have stored on my computer.

No, I don't use them for anything malicious, they're just there for curiosity's sake.

commdante · Aug 18, 2011

Good old flashme ... even besides getting rid of that freakingly annoying health-screen (THE reason I updated it after I got a slot1 card), it's still so usefully. :-D

One would have expected most flashcards would've a routine to identify it by now ... that is, if it's actually the same.

lizard81288 · Aug 18, 2011

Reminds me of the Dragon Quest game that was fake and bricked you DS. I would look into this, but you need a flash gba cart, which i would have to buy, plus there aren't too many more DS games to get either. for me, its like 3 more, and thats the end of the ds for me.

TLSS_N · Aug 18, 2011

nl255 said:
The Living Shadow said:

cobleman said:

how long should flashme take to install? It says if progress stops,the SL1 terminal needs to be shorted.
Can it only be installed with Slot2 Flashcart?

Click to expand...

a few years ago, half way through the installation. I was hit in the arm, lost contact with the SL1 and it bricked, I renamed the file extension in dsorganize to .gba and flashed it to NOR on another nds. poped it in, and it booted directly to slot two.

Yes, it will work on a slot two device, that is the reason I asked about it in this case. I just wanted to know if this method works on a fully bricked ds phat/lite.

Click to expand...

Fortunately, once you get past the first 5% or so, the recovery code has already been written as that is the first thing to be written by flashme.

If it was my ds, I would still put forth the effort to try it at the least, I mean hey... stranger things have happened right?

relminator · Aug 18, 2011

Can this brick DSlites, DSis and XLs too?

Wombo Combo · Aug 18, 2011

@youtube video

Why would you intentionally brick a perfectly good Nintendo DS Phat like that?

Oveneise · Aug 18, 2011

That's scary! Lets hope the dev of DSlazy updates the dsbrick.signature file so we know which roms are and aren't safe! Always download from the big scene-release rom sites, stay away from all sites with the name "warez" in 'em. Sorry to hear your ds got f--ked.

Normmatt · Aug 18, 2011

serves you right for pirating games...

LuckySteves · Aug 18, 2011

I personally took this as a lesson and installed flashme on my ds phat. Hopefully CrashME isn't reposted under any other header or I could be in some trouble.

Sicklyboy · Aug 18, 2011

Wombo Combo said:
@youtube video

Why would you intentionally brick a perfectly good Nintendo DS Phat like that?

Because if it is FlashMe'd it is protected from bricks. You can just boot into your slot-2 card and re-flashMe it.

KidIce · Aug 18, 2011

plasma dragon007 said:
Wombo Combo said:

@youtube video

Why would you intentionally brick a perfectly good Nintendo DS Phat like that?

Click to expand...

Because if it is FlashMe'd it is protected from bricks. You can just boot into your slot-2 card and re-flashMe it.

And that's actually why they used a fat... Anyone thinking of putting FlashMe on their lite to protect themselves from brickage needs to seriously read the docs and decide if they REALLY want DS firmware on their lite. You will lose the multiple brightness settings, you will never be able to install the original firmware to restore it, and I'm sure there are things I am forgetting.

If you have a fat: read the docs, know the risks, and hell yes install FlashMe if you find those risks acceptable. If you have a lite, read those docs a little closer and the stories about brickage from shorting the wrong leads... You probably won't want to install it then.

777kidis777 · Aug 18, 2011

This question may have been answered, but I still don't think I got it:

What if it were to happen to a DSi/XL?

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