Hardware 20 free games enough to compensate?

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

To RupeeClock, I would disagree. I thought the 3DS was EASILY worth $250 considering the potential. Nowadays, not so much.

FireGrey · Aug 1, 2011

Free games enough to compensate?
They don't owe anything for giving the 3DS a priced drop.
Even if you had to pay an extra $80, well you get it earlier then others AND everyone knew there would be a price drop.
I say that's is more than enough.

The Milkman · Aug 1, 2011

yuyuyup said:
Here are the following points I've made that people arguing with me have failed to address:

1. The most important issue of this absolutely unprecedented price slash, the undermining of Nintendo quality. A system five months old moving so much closer to the bargain bin, SO fast.

Yah OoT 3D selling 1 million units about a month and half after release. Thats the definition of a game system moving closer to the "bargin bin". ACHIEVEMENT GET!: Only person who can make a price cut look bad.

2. I bought the 3DS under the impression Augmented Reality would be an important feature. WHY did I believe such a CRAZY off the wall notion ? Oh I don't know. I guess the pack of AR cards coming to life was just too exciting and fun for me. There I go, imagining the potential of the 3DS. What was I thinking ?

Oh yeah because nintendo can just shit these ideas and it takes no time for this to come. Oh look theres KI uprising with its AR based battle system. But THATS not good enough let me just bitch some more. 3DS has tons of potential and nintendo will have minimum 5 years to prove it. So dont undermine the rose because of its thorns when it hasnt had the chance to bloom

3. 3D movies. Sure, I'm positive full-length 3D movies are coming, and I am excited. Yes, I do enjoy the few 3D movies available right now. But I'm still waiting. And it's not good that a MASSIVE HUGE PRICE SLASH came before full length 3D movies.

If anything that helps the chance full length moives. As the demand rises they will rise to please the masses. thats kind of how general marketing works.

If I wasn't such a pirating little bastard, I concede 20 free roms would be somewhat good. But I didn't ask for 20 free roms. I asked for 3D movies, Augmented Reality, and Megaman Legends 3.

If you werent so freaking clingy whiney and impatient then maybe we would have been spared another freaking useless montage of complaints. You want MML3 so bad? FIGHT for IT! You want AR? TELL THEM.
You want 3D Movies? TELL THEM. If you want something FIGHT FOR IT. But bitching and moaning and trying to justify it isnt helping anyone.

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

clingy ? ? ? ? Where the hell does that come from. Yeah, let's FIGHT FOR IT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Cause LORD KNOWS that works. With Xenoblade. Or The Last Story. Or etc etc etc. I'd rather "fight for it" with my dollars paying for 3D content. Nintendo forking over some 2D roms seems desperate. Why the hell do I want 2D roms for a 3D system ? ? ? THAT was one selling point I certainly didn't give a shit about. NON 3D roms on a 3DS. Now don't get me wrong, if a company wants to sell a good DSiware game (which are usually NEW games,) or perhaps a 3DS cartridge that DIDN'T focus on 3D but rather camera controlled/motion controlled in-game cameras, etc. I'd be all for it. But I thought to myself that $250 is a STEAL if they follow through with content. Instead, we get a price slash and 2D roms.

You want to know what would have satisfied me ? If Nintendo said, "you know what, we're gonna slash the price, and get REALLY REALLY SERIOUS about banging out 3D content and make this thing fantastic."

Instead ? "you know what, we're gonna slash the price, and give away 20 old games from our back catalog." Fantastic.

punkyrule · Aug 1, 2011

yuyuyup said:
1. The most important issue of this absolutely unprecedented price slash, the undermining of Nintendo quality. A system five months old moving so much closer to the bargain bin, SO fast. Ninty just wants more customers.

2. I bought the 3DS under the impression Augmented Reality would be an important feature. WHY did I believe such a CRAZY off the wall notion ? Oh I don't know. I guess the pack of AR cards coming to life was just too exciting and fun for me. There I go, imagining the potential of the 3DS. What was I thinking ? Yeah, whay were you thinking!?!

3. 3D movies. Sure, I'm positive full-length 3D movies are coming, and I am excited. Yes, I do enjoy the few 3D movies available right now. But I'm still waiting. And it's not good that a MASSIVE HUGE PRICE SLASH came before full length 3D movies. Uhhh... so why was it bad that a huge price slash came before those full length 3d movies?

If I wasn't such a pirating little bastard, I concede 20 free roms would be somewhat good. But I didn't ask for 20 free roms. I asked for 3D movies, Augmented Reality, and Megaman Legends 3. Yes, if you weren't a pirate, those 20 free games would be really good news. You asked for 3d movies (it will come), Augmented reality (it would improve eventually, depending on the developers that would also be using that feature in their games or if the 3ds would have an update), and Megaman Legends 3 (Capcom's fault but you could probably support it's comeback in some other way)

iluvfupaburgers · Aug 1, 2011

dont really understand why people complain too much about the system. people should give it time, to get developed. it has been about half a year since it came out, of course the system isnt going to have much things on its arsenal. but people keep comparing it to the psp software that is available. the psp is like 6 years old already. and not even than offers as much on the psnetwork as the 3ds is already offering. but people keep bashing on the 3ds for some reason

me, im one of the people that have bought 3ds full price, and it is totally worth it.

The Milkman · Aug 1, 2011

Your clinging too much to one game in a great list of games. I wanted MML3 and I got over its cancelation. If you dont fight for what you want it fades away. If enough people want the same thing it appears. Take this topic in general. Your taking up all this time just to get people to think on a subject like you. Now imagine if you invested this energy into actually getting capcom to atleast put prototype out. But your just wasting it here with your complaints

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

OBVIOUSLY nintendo want's more customers. Jesus. But does a massive price slash INSPIRE people to buy a 3DS, or does it WARN them it's the next Virtual Boy ?

I think it's bad a huge price slash came before 3D movies because a huge early price slash is a milestone that will arrive before a (in my opinion) VITAL feature kicks in. This is a bad sign.

I think if not MML3, then OTHER games might not have been/might not get cancelled if there was more 3D content bolstering the value of the 3DS.

It seems that what I considered VERY MUCH worth $250 is in reality only worth $170 and some free roms.

iluvfupaburgers · Aug 1, 2011

obviously yupyup, you dont know much about supply and demand, so ill show you a simple graph of how the market works:

with this shown, nintendo in theory should get more customers. which obviously is any company's goal, it would be stupid of them not wanting more customers

The Milkman · Aug 1, 2011

Your trying to make a bad thing out of a good thing. You dont WANT hope for the 3DS. You want to be a downer and pull as many others down with you. As I said before all this energy your putting into negativity could be put into something positive. You want low prices and free games look bad when it may infact boost the sales on this underdog. But I want you to ask yourself this: "Would I have been happier if they just left the price alone?" It is truly a sad sight to see a fool turn a good move into a sign of weakness.

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

The people who were waiting on a price drop will jump on it. Skeptics will see a huge early price slash as a bad sign. Why would you invest $170 in an under supported system ?

The Milkman · Aug 1, 2011

So now your saying because its new its undersupported. Are we stearing into troll logic?

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

Zantigo said:
So now your saying because its new its undersupported. Are we stearing into troll logic?

This is my logic. I was extremely excited to get the 3DS. I was willing to spend $300 for it. I saw the $250 price, and thought "well that's really not bad. I can't afford a 3D tv, a 3D setup, etc. This is obviously the perfect solution." This was not my only reason; additional reasons only increase the perceived value.

3D movies are not a gimmick to me. 3D movies are important to me. This is a top tier major feature. I want to pay to see 3D movies on my 3DS. Where are they ? I thought "Bear vs. Shark" was great. Both OK GO videos were great (one of course which is deleted forever. Thanks Nintendo.) The game preview videos are fantastic. The Green Lantern trailer is good.

I want full feature films. This is not a huge request. Where are they ?

iluvfupaburgers · Aug 1, 2011

i dont have a netflix account, but doenst netflix offer 3d movies? just wondering

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

iluvfupaburgers said:
i dont have a netflix account, but doenst netflix offer 3d movies? just wondering

My friend, if it did, I'd be too busy watching 3D movies to be complaining on this thread.

Redhorse · Aug 1, 2011

IMO No, If you, like ME are not into mario & friends, maybe your into Age of Empires or Advance Wars... then No, it's pretty well useless.... unless they release Advance Wars for the GBA as one of those which I seriously doubt. Especially since I'm on the fence as to whether this move (price drop) was a planned one or not (read article on IGN about many companies and thier price drops which were pre planned., in section 3ds).

iluvfupaburgers · Aug 1, 2011

you should guve it time, all features cant be applied immediately. the system has like 6 months only. not even a year of being out. you should just give it time since they actually need permission from movie companies to post their movies and such

yuyuyup · Aug 1, 2011

iluvfupaburgers said:
you should guve it time, all features cant be applied immediately. the system has like 6 months only. not even a year of being out. you should just give it time since they actually need permission from movie companies to post their movies and such

Will the 3DS still be supported by this time next year ? This is a legitimate question. You people write off this price slash. Nintendo has NEVER slashed like this. Not even the Virtual Boy.

From IGN July 28:

Yamauchi is the 83-year old former president of Nintendo. Retiring in 2002 after running the company his great-grandfather founded, Yamauchi is estimated to still own about 10 percent of Nintendo's stock. Yesterday's drop could have cost the former executive, who ran Nintendo for 53 years, as much as $312 million according to Bloomberg.

Nintendo needs to get their shit together.

iluvfupaburgers · Aug 1, 2011

they will still be here. price drop doesnt mean a company or item sold is doomed. it can also mean it is adapting to the market. stocks are always changing from time to time. there are always ups and downs. microsoft has had them, wal mart has had them, apple has had them, stocks falling mean shit

DroRox · Aug 1, 2011

The price drop does mean Nintendo sold less than expected. However it's not the end of Nintendo. The DSi had the same problem but it started catching on. The price drop is just an adaptation to the market and maybe to some internal problems with the company. As to what do i think about the compensation? I think it's pretty generous. 20 free games, even if VC games are costy and approx 4-5 dollars a piece. Do the math. Maybe you wont like all of them but it's nice. They could have always just not done anything.

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