Is Karma real?

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Miss Panda

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A Gay Little Catboy said:
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I like to believe that karma is real.
It isn't real. Where was the punishment for all those who destroyed Europe, chopped Germany in half and raped the local women and children. Eastern Europe still hasn't recovered from the evil inflicted on them.
Clearly you misunderstood me. I am well aware of fact that it's not real, but I like to believe it is real, in some situations I like to believe people who have wronged others get what they deserve, even if they didn't I just hope one day they do. On the other hand, I like to believe those who helped someone as well get rewarded in any small manor.
This doesn't mean I believe in karma, this only means I wish it was real.
Fair enough
 

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Shinigami357 said:
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Like it or not, Christians all believe in at least one sort of karma... Observe:
Good person = Heaven
Bad person = Hell

The good people receive the reward of eternal life and whatnot in the presence of God, the bad ones roast forever in the endless oceans of flame. If that isn't karma, what is?
That's not exactly what Christians believe. They believe you have to accept their religion if you want to get into heaven. You could be a perfectly good person and still go to hell.



Wait... I thought the doctrine was "believe in Him and you shall be saved" or something? There's now a church-members' only rule?

Well, whatevs...
You were correct. Believing is the criteria you need to meet to get into heaven. I consider that the same as accepting their religion. That doesn't just mean church members.
 

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Magmorph said:
Shinigami357 said:
Magmorph said:
Shinigami357 said:
Like it or not, Christians all believe in at least one sort of karma... Observe:
Good person = Heaven
Bad person = Hell

The good people receive the reward of eternal life and whatnot in the presence of God, the bad ones roast forever in the endless oceans of flame. If that isn't karma, what is?
That's not exactly what Christians believe. They believe you have to accept their religion if you want to get into heaven. You could be a perfectly good person and still go to hell.



Wait... I thought the doctrine was "believe in Him and you shall be saved" or something? There's now a church-members' only rule?

Well, whatevs...
You were correct. Believing is the criteria you need to meet to get into heaven. I consider that the same as accepting their religion. That doesn't just mean church members.


Yeah... That's why I said Christians in the first place. People who believe in Christ, so to speak... Glad we can agree on that...
 

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Decisions largely run any Human's day. Every decision has consequences. Even the good ones may have detrimental effects later on. So to a certain extent, I do believe that good things do come to good people and vice versa. There are certainly cases where this may not ring true, but karma is a driving force of the female gender. Guess what, she can be a real bitch.
 

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Miss Panda said:
It isn't real. Where was the punishment for all those who destroyed Europe, chopped Germany in half and raped the local women and children. Eastern Europe still hasn't recovered from the evil inflicted on them.
Perhaps they'll get it in their next life. A person's karma balance isn't restricted to one life.

I still don't believe in it though.
 

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Depravo said:
Miss Panda said:
It isn't real. Where was the punishment for all those who destroyed Europe, chopped Germany in half and raped the local women and children. Eastern Europe still hasn't recovered from the evil inflicted on them.
Perhaps they'll get it in their next life. A person's karma balance isn't restricted to one life.

I still don't believe in it though.
Yeah I'm Jewish so I don't believe in hell if that is what you mean. We believe in a place where your soul is 'cleansed' if you will but it isn't hell, and it isn't a punishment.
 

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well, buddhists believe karma to be something very materialistic. you can't get rid of it and the "new karma-materia" ends in rebirth. it's very hard to understand but it has a logic in it. so I think it is real for someone who actually deals with this philosophy intensively.
but what means "real" after all - there's no absolute truth / or there are plenty of truths - depends whats in someones mind. nature does not know something like "real" or "true"
 

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If there is such a thing as Karma, us getting our rewards in another life, then my next life will see me as a billionaire that has sex with supermodels 'cause this life so far has sucked balls. I'm flat broke, got a wad of bills thick enough to beat a whale to death with, every time I try to improve myself I get stopped by some cunt, and every girl that's available to date in this city seems to be a complete skank. Life sucks. On to the next one.
 

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Hey Blaze, pay attention! you just added up lots of karma with your posting
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cause of dissatisfaction :-D
there is no such thing as with christianity: you kill a man, tell a priest, you walk 3 times around the church praying 10 avemaria and you get absolution and will come to heaven again, lol. no way with karma.
 

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apofaz said:
Hey Blaze, pay attention! you just added up lots of karma with your posting
wink.gif
cause of dissatisfaction :-D
there is no such thing as with christianity: you kill a man, tell a priest, you walk 3 times around the church praying 10 avemaria and you get absolution and will come to heaven again, lol. no way with karma.


This is usually when one makes a smart-ass witticism such as "well, belief is separate from practice" or something of the like, but...


PS
Looks like a landslide on the poll...
 

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Karma in its traditional sense is kinda hard to test since it is a non-linear scale and takes place over different lifetimes. Thus it being real is non-testable in any decent way.
 

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I would say that i don't want to believe in karma but sometimes when you look at how things progress there is no other word to describe it but karma. Here's an example (relevance may differ), when i was in school i had a best friend (of course) and he was the opposite of me (that i think is why we were best friends). What we had in common that fueled our friendship was our love for games and our keen common sense (we would always come to the same conclusion after analyzing a situation). Him being kind-hearted, gentle and well just the average "good guy" and me being the the opposite of that (i'll leave it to you to find the antonyms). As time went on at this point in life i can now say that karma had some part to play. I did crap for my exams, ended up wasting time home for 2 years and my luck with, socially with others (others being girls) significantly decreased. While my friend ended up going to University along with his girl-friend and just, all in all, happy. From this i can determine that if you do good things good things will come to you, vice versa, with bad things.
 

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It would be nice to think karma is real.

I've known some complete b*****ds and it would be nice to know they would get their comeuppance and I've also known quite a few very good people and it would be nice to think they would get everything they so really deserve.

Having said that it is with bitter experience that the b*****ds get away with it and the good go totally unrewarded and as I don't believe in an 'afterlife' or reincarnation I lean towards the unreal superstition.
 

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sinharvest24 said:
I would say that i don't want to believe in karma but sometimes when you look at how things progress there is no other word to describe it but karma. Here's an example (relevance may differ), when i was in school i had a best friend (of course) and he was the opposite of me (that i think is why we were best friends). What we had in common that fueled our friendship was our love for games and our keen common sense (we would always come to the same conclusion after analyzing a situation). Him being kind-hearted, gentle and well just the average "good guy" and me being the the opposite of that (i'll leave it to you to find the antonyms). As time went on at this point in life i can now say that karma had some part to play. I did crap for my exams, ended up wasting time home for 2 years and my luck with, socially with others (others being girls) significantly decreased. While my friend ended up going to University along with his girl-friend and just, all in all, happy. From this i can determine that if you do good things good things will come to you, vice versa, with bad things.
A child is born, it is abused by its mother and father. No one knows about the abuse, and eventually the child commits suicide in its early teens. The parents enjoy the extra free time they now have and lead long and happy lives.
 

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Yes, I firmly believe in karma.
I live my life by that belief.
My faith in karma makes the world a better place.
I'll do good things for as many people as I possibly can.
And in turn, I hope that people will be equally good to me.
Not everyone will be so kind. That's just the way the world turns.
But at some point, somebody will give me precisely the help I will need at that moment.
And I will be thankful.
I won't make a fortune off of this help.
Hell, I'll probably barely scrape by.
But I'll live,
and I'll pass this kindness on to other people.
I'll give it to anybody that seems deserving.

This is how I understand Karma.
This is what has kept me alive so far.
And this makes me happier than anything else in my life.
 

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Miss Panda said:
sinharvest24 said:
I would say that i don't want to believe in karma but sometimes when you look at how things progress there is no other word to describe it but karma. Here's an example (relevance may differ), when i was in school i had a best friend (of course) and he was the opposite of me (that i think is why we were best friends). What we had in common that fueled our friendship was our love for games and our keen common sense (we would always come to the same conclusion after analyzing a situation). Him being kind-hearted, gentle and well just the average "good guy" and me being the the opposite of that (i'll leave it to you to find the antonyms). As time went on at this point in life i can now say that karma had some part to play. I did crap for my exams, ended up wasting time home for 2 years and my luck with, socially with others (others being girls) significantly decreased. While my friend ended up going to University along with his girl-friend and just, all in all, happy. From this i can determine that if you do good things good things will come to you, vice versa, with bad things.
A child is born, it is abused by its mother and father. No one knows about the abuse, and eventually the child commits suicide in its early teens. The parents enjoy the extra free time they now have and lead long and happy lives.
Well, obviously it's flawed. I don't totally believe in it because of things like what you said but i would like to believe in it.
 

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