' Cause they didn't say they sold 3.61 million. Other words, what you are saying, I think it false.Nollog said:
Gaming How Nintendo killed interest in 3DS
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I've played my 3DS once since I bought it and haven't so much as touched it since. Honestly I don't mind supporting Nintendo as they've brought me a lot of joy from their gaming experiences in the past. The 3DS is definitely overpriced and a disappointing handheld. The graphics aren't as good as I originally thought they'd be. The launch titles were quite bad and even now the only game I'm looking forward to is OOT3D.
They could've easily added excitement for the handheld by doing basic things. Every game developer is used to the trophy/achievement system on the PS3 and XBox. Adding these features give gamers incentive to finish bad games and to spend more time on good games they've already beaten. They simply refuse to add this to their systems. Not sure if this is because they don't want to be seen as followers or unoriginal, but M$ and $ony have both shown they will steal any and every idea from Nintendo no matter how obvious (PSMove...). Then of course M$ bought Rare from Nintendo and basically sabotaged the company. Nintendo has to step its game up and fight back. If they don't want to be seen as a follower, they can reinvent the achievement system and make it even better.
Another thing they could've done is put better cameras on the 3DS. The cameras are so bad. How can you charge 300$ for something with the worst cameras in existence? Put a decent camera on it (nothing special, just basic). The 3D picture feature is completely wasted on the horrible cameras. They charge 300$ but the hardware in the 3DS isn't that impressive. I assume a lot of the costs are because of the 3D screen. A gimmick feature that thus far adds little to the games and the battery can hardly handle.
Great games will always shine on any system. Nintendo should have prepared a great game for launch. They didn't have complete software on the system (no web browser), the system was overpriced, they didn't add any interesting features (there are the boring AR cards), and they didn't have a quality title out on launch.
Hopefully Zelda sparks interest in the handheld and they can quickly get some more quality titles out. Sony is an embarrassment right now. Every day one of their sites is hacked. I have no doubt this will hurt the sells of their NGP. Also their NGP will be extremely pricey. Despite Sony saying they believe people won't buy it if it's a certain price, we all know how they operate. I think it'll be 300$. 3DS has to have a strong lineup of games for this holiday season.
I have confidence Nintendo will get things back on track.
They could've easily added excitement for the handheld by doing basic things. Every game developer is used to the trophy/achievement system on the PS3 and XBox. Adding these features give gamers incentive to finish bad games and to spend more time on good games they've already beaten. They simply refuse to add this to their systems. Not sure if this is because they don't want to be seen as followers or unoriginal, but M$ and $ony have both shown they will steal any and every idea from Nintendo no matter how obvious (PSMove...). Then of course M$ bought Rare from Nintendo and basically sabotaged the company. Nintendo has to step its game up and fight back. If they don't want to be seen as a follower, they can reinvent the achievement system and make it even better.
Another thing they could've done is put better cameras on the 3DS. The cameras are so bad. How can you charge 300$ for something with the worst cameras in existence? Put a decent camera on it (nothing special, just basic). The 3D picture feature is completely wasted on the horrible cameras. They charge 300$ but the hardware in the 3DS isn't that impressive. I assume a lot of the costs are because of the 3D screen. A gimmick feature that thus far adds little to the games and the battery can hardly handle.
Great games will always shine on any system. Nintendo should have prepared a great game for launch. They didn't have complete software on the system (no web browser), the system was overpriced, they didn't add any interesting features (there are the boring AR cards), and they didn't have a quality title out on launch.
Hopefully Zelda sparks interest in the handheld and they can quickly get some more quality titles out. Sony is an embarrassment right now. Every day one of their sites is hacked. I have no doubt this will hurt the sells of their NGP. Also their NGP will be extremely pricey. Despite Sony saying they believe people won't buy it if it's a certain price, we all know how they operate. I think it'll be 300$. 3DS has to have a strong lineup of games for this holiday season.
I have confidence Nintendo will get things back on track.
Nintendo is simply spoiled by their past successes. All their handhelds have been extremely successful, and Wii sold fantastically despite having the worst graphics of its generation. DS printed money despite having almost no multimedia capabilities, disappointing DSiWare and mediocre online.
For sure, 3DS' marketing campaign is a total fail (90% people believe 3DS = DS with 3D screen), most games are ports with PSP-level graphics, the cameras are shit, and DS backwards compatibility mode is blurry (NGP runs PSP games pixel-perfect and emulates PS2, for fuck sake!). Also, for many people 3D is not that big; it's like movies - people go once or twice to see Avatar or something similar in 3D cinema, but generally are not that crazy about the technology. Not to mention that in cinema you don't have to keep the sweet spot all the time !
But most of this can be simply fixed by supplying great, innovative games in retail and some simple, cheap timekillers via eShop.
For sure, 3DS' marketing campaign is a total fail (90% people believe 3DS = DS with 3D screen), most games are ports with PSP-level graphics, the cameras are shit, and DS backwards compatibility mode is blurry (NGP runs PSP games pixel-perfect and emulates PS2, for fuck sake!). Also, for many people 3D is not that big; it's like movies - people go once or twice to see Avatar or something similar in 3D cinema, but generally are not that crazy about the technology. Not to mention that in cinema you don't have to keep the sweet spot all the time !
But most of this can be simply fixed by supplying great, innovative games in retail and some simple, cheap timekillers via eShop.
I love my 3ds and once Tales of Abyss releases stateside ill be even happier. I always buy all the consoles that come out because I play every rpg that comes out at least once and that requires every console but this last gen the PS3 and the 360 had so lil rpg to offer while the DS and pc had so many with the psp having a few so im hoping the 3ds will stay in the RPG business and that the wii2 goes back to its SNES roots and RPG lineup.
Great image.
(Apart from the little error; missing "to" between "idea" and "plaster")
I only particularly decided to get mine because of the much lower price where I got it and thought it'd probably be my best bet for a little while. Before that I wasn't particularly sure if I'd get one or not. Hopefully there'll be a little more interest once Mario Kart 3D and Super Mario 3DS are released.
Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the supposed May update which should be turning up some time tomorrow or Tuesday.
(Apart from the little error; missing "to" between "idea" and "plaster")
I only particularly decided to get mine because of the much lower price where I got it and thought it'd probably be my best bet for a little while. Before that I wasn't particularly sure if I'd get one or not. Hopefully there'll be a little more interest once Mario Kart 3D and Super Mario 3DS are released.
Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the supposed May update which should be turning up some time tomorrow or Tuesday.
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This is too true. I can't buy this 3ds model. The thing that turned me off was the fact that it looked like a DSlite. The design was depressing somehow...
This is too true. I can't buy this 3ds model. The thing that turned me off was the fact that it looked like a DSlite. The design was depressing somehow...
It'll be a slow burner just like the DS was. People are always scolding Nintendo, "Why don't you do this like Sony, why don't you do that like Microsoft, why don't you do that like Apple" and Nintendo just keeps on acting like Nintendo and making hugely successful machines.
That said, I'm looking forward to the update tomorrow to give me a reason to dust off my 3DS. Bored of the launch games now and don't care about OOT, so I'm waiting patiently for something to play.
That said, I'm looking forward to the update tomorrow to give me a reason to dust off my 3DS. Bored of the launch games now and don't care about OOT, so I'm waiting patiently for something to play.
Trust me, sales will go crazy when those great games come out. People also won't really bother about the price.
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Amen. December and June are Nintendo's big months (for the rest of the year, unless they release the red 3DS somewhere in the middle...) of 2011 for the games. Kid Icarus is coming out, as is OoT and everyone who has (or is getting) a 3DS is wanting those games.chris888222 said:
Also, having kept Nintendogs thus far, I am reduced to being totally bored with it and playing it for 5 minutes a day to feed my dogs. I'm more interacting with SP quest.
The only concrete positive I can think of for the 3DS, is it isn't from Sony (which likely will be lucky to sell doowah if they don't get their security PR hell in order).
But so what the 3DS is from a company that is at least selling and not suffering.
3D is NOT I repeat NOT so special as to make me drop 300 bucks on a return to a small screened hand held game device.
Sony is NOT the competition, and the NGP is NOT the toy to beat. The toy to keep up with will look like an iPad, cost half the price, run a real OS and play viturally any software worth mention. Remember, as we speak, my laptop can run anything Nintendo makes eh. Not such a stretch for a hand held doodad with a touch screen and as useful as an iPad and 3 times the viewing area.
The puny screened 3DS is utterly unthrilling. And all it does is offer you games, which are not even present currently.
Of course the thing is not setting massive sales records.
I think it's funny that those that bought it, bought it at all.
300 bucks? I'd rather hold out a couple of more months wait till I had 500 bucks, and bought something truly useful.
I have a DSi XL Nintendo, I don't need your unthrilling 3d gimic.
But so what the 3DS is from a company that is at least selling and not suffering.
3D is NOT I repeat NOT so special as to make me drop 300 bucks on a return to a small screened hand held game device.
Sony is NOT the competition, and the NGP is NOT the toy to beat. The toy to keep up with will look like an iPad, cost half the price, run a real OS and play viturally any software worth mention. Remember, as we speak, my laptop can run anything Nintendo makes eh. Not such a stretch for a hand held doodad with a touch screen and as useful as an iPad and 3 times the viewing area.
The puny screened 3DS is utterly unthrilling. And all it does is offer you games, which are not even present currently.
Of course the thing is not setting massive sales records.
I think it's funny that those that bought it, bought it at all.
300 bucks? I'd rather hold out a couple of more months wait till I had 500 bucks, and bought something truly useful.
I have a DSi XL Nintendo, I don't need your unthrilling 3d gimic.
I don't really agree with your claims on the 3DS but I agree with the NGP. I feel that the NGP is becoming lesser of a game console. It is not really the true rival of the 3DS.Panzer Tacticer said:
the bottom line is i've logged in over 80 hours of game play on the 3ds since launch. i personally enjoy the 3d effect and i have a game which is very much enhanced by the effect. again i have a great game that is enhanced by the 3d effect. i still play my ds lite too. i'm not telling anyone to get one. do whatever you want. im also not some bitter kid who wants to hypothesis about whether it would be fun or not or an old guy with the same issue. who cares? most of these people who are complaining now will have a 3ds a year from now anyway.
I think the only reason it hasn't sold well is the lack of games (Which is why it's being outsold by DSI which is cheaper and has better games as of now). The price point isn't as big a factor as I think people are making it out to be.
lol to you sir. well i guess your not the target market and you obviously dont know what your missing out on then. i got my 3ds for 25$ by trading in my dsi and like 7 wii games when they had the deals at gamestop... so i guess ill have to suffer.......... and i think i can agree with all the other people who own a 3ds as of this moment that , you sir are crazy to think that an ipad could even get close to fulfilling my gaming needs....(theres no buttons, and anyone who actually plays more than "Angry Birds" on their ipad/phone would also agree that the pads lack the ability to have in depth gaming experience) the screen really isnt that small when you are in the middle of fighting hordes of enemies in 3d in samurai warriors, (cant wait for revelations/mercenaries)or fighting an 8 foot dragon in your living room(providing you have enough brains to make your AR card bigger)so i guess in conclusion , dont get it as you obviously do not see either the potential of the system or motion control.......(waiting to play COD on 3ds where you move the 3ds to aim like cod on the wii)Panzer Tacticer said:
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Truth be told, the 3DS is doing better than the DS at this point in its current lifecycle. It is threads like these which make people's perception stray otherwise. Having said that, the high price is a bit of a bother.KingVamp said:
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