'Don't say gay' bill has passed the Tennessee Senate

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BlueStar said:
Duskye said:
And I'll say it again.

"And of course it's allowed to talk about people being straight, cause that's totally fair."

I just hate it when things like this get passed.

Right - but you were acting like you don't understand George Takei's workaround. It's not the people who made the law who are suggesting it.
I do know his workaround, I just rather have something instead of "Takei". Just sounds, like other people said, extremely weird.
 

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BlueStar said:
Duskye said:
And I'll say it again.

"And of course it's allowed to talk about people being straight, cause that's totally fair."

I just hate it when things like this get passed.

Right - but you were acting like you don't understand George Takei's workaround. It's not the people who made the law who are suggesting it.
The workaround isn't going to work. Takei now becomes a reference to homosexuality. It's not the word that's banned, it's the discussion of homosexuality in general.
 

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Duskye said:
And of course it's allowed to talk about people being straight, cause that's totally fair.
Because if we don't talk about homosexuality, it will go away. That's pretty much the basis of this law.
I don't expect this law to stay very long, even in the Bible thumping South, they still have to follow the 1st Amendment.
 

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smile72 said:
This bill forbids Tennessee public school teachers and students in K-8 from discussing the fact that some people happen to be gay.
Not yet it doesn't. It only passed in the senate, not the house of representatives. If it does pass in the house the ACLU and various gay rights groups will challenge it in court, and almost certainly win a stay preventing it from being enforced until it has made its way through the courts.

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telling someone in the US what they can and can not say is unconstitutional.
No it isn't. There are a lot of things that you are not allowed to say even in the situations where free speech applies (for example, saying you're going to kill the president is always a crime, even if you're joking), and there are many situations where free speech does not apply (for example, any time you are on private property that you don't own, the owner is free to tell you to leave if you say something they don't like). Free speech does not apply in schools because if it did, hate groups would have the constitutional right to express their hate in school.

QUOTE(30084pm @ May 21 2011, 02:22 AM)
only in america
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No. Many countries ban homosexuality altogether, not just talking about it in school.
 

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A Gay Little Catboy said:
Duskye said:
And of course it's allowed to talk about people being straight, cause that's totally fair.
Because if we don't talk about homosexuality, it will go away. That's pretty much the basis of this law.
I don't expect this law to stay very long, even in the Bible thumping South, they still have to follow the 1st Amendment.
Yeah, I know, I don't expect it to stay either.
 

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Destructobot, you did read the title right I said it just passed the Tennessee senate, i never said the governor signed it. I just said what the bill forbids.
 

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30084pm said:
only in america
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Hardly...I'll give you a moment to think about it.

But yeah, it is ironic considering our constitution is based almost entirely on a person's right to free speech. This is disturbing news, to say the least. Not surprising, but disturbing all the same.
 

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GeekyGuy said:
30084pm said:
only in america
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Hardly...I'll give you a moment to think about it.

But yeah, it is ironic considering our constitution is based almost entirely on a person's right to free speech. This is disturbing news, to say the least. Not surprising, but disturbing all the same.

I was mainly talking about the change from gay->takei

or should i say takei->takei
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I want an "Its okay to be Takei" t-shirt now
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For those not getting the whole "Takei" instead of "Gay" thing. The Bill is nicknamed the "Don't say Gay Bill" so he's proposing an alternative to gay AS A JOKE! He knows its stupid, he knows its awkward, he knows it doesn't get around the law but most of all he knows its FUNNY! And funny stuff gets it into the public conciousness/internet conciousness very easily.

As for the bill: Truly America is the land of the free.
 

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Jamstruth said:
As for the bill: Truly America is the land of the free.
Sadly compared to most counties when it comes down to homosexuality, America is better than most. Some places like the Middle East, it's a death sentence.
 

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Yes but they don't proclaim themselves to be the "Free World" where their entire society is founded upon equal rights for everyone.

And yeah, life for Homosexuals is terrible in the Middle East, Africa too for some places. Its that damn religion thing that causes it. In the Middle East at least. Its against the Qu'ran therefore illegal and punishable severely.
 

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Jamstruth said:
Yes but they don't proclaim themselves to be the "Free World" where their entire society is founded upon equal rights for everyone.

And yeah, life for Homosexuals is terrible in the Middle East, Africa too for some places. Its that damn religion thing that causes it. In the Middle East at least. Its against the Qu'ran therefore illegal and punishable severely.
Yeah true, then again America has had a long history of just using one group of people after another as an excuse to ignore the real problems. Really that's all this whole issue is.
It's not about freedom since it was clear from the start that America was only going to hypocritically ignore those claims and just pretend to be the greatest place on Earth, only covering the ugly truth.

Ugg, I am not even going to derail this thread on how I feel about that.
 

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U.S State Laws never cease to amaze me, and there's a handful of more ridiculous ones than just this one.

In Reno, Nevada:

QUOTE said:
Sec. 8.14.040. Sale of sexual paraphernalia.

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, offer to sell or display for sale any device, including but not limited to dildos and artificial vaginae, designed or marketed as useful primarily for the stimulation of human genital organs.

(Ord. No. 2805, ? 1 (11.12.157), 2-11-80)


In Minnesota:


QUOTE said:
(609.293) is Minnesota's sodomy law which forbids oral and anal intercourse, regardless of circumstances.


In Washington:


QUOTE said:
Lollipops are banned.


In Tennessee:


QUOTE
Constitution of Tennessee
Article XI: Miscellaneous Provisions: Section 14

The intermarriage of white persons with negroes, mulattoes, or persons of mixed blood, descended from a n**** to the third generation inclusive of their living together as man and wife in this State is prohibited. The legislature shall enforce this section by appropriate legislation.


...and you're worried about "not saying the G word".
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Well the original meaning of gay isn't homosexual. Heck, it's not even the formal use. It's jut it's most prominent use. People know what it means when you say something's gay, I don't think it's wrong to say.

Just like black. Black can be a color, something that it impure, or a minority. I don't get offended when someone calls something that's ghetto "black", because that's an informal unofficial meaning and is not an insult towards me (and yes, I talk like this in real life, I am just the opposite of ghetto).
 

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As much as I support the idea behind it, this is over-strict, and is going about things all wrong.

I honestly believe I'd have lived a better life had I never learned about sex in 5th grade.
 

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