Anonymous Calls up SCEA President, Sends Pizzas

I'm going to laugh if and when Home Security starts "Patriot Act"ing on these people....oh wait...I mean if they are in the US...oh wait...I mean I'll laugh when they burn lower case t's on his front lawn...whatever

this isnot cool calling some one at home
talking shit about some one his wife i already had kill Anoumous

All this 'ruin Sony' stuff just isn't funny anymore.
Those patethic hackers and these anonymous guys should think about the gamers for once.
Why the fuck did this start? Because Sony removed Other OS and stopped people from hacking their consoles? Whoa, big deal!
What would you do if hackers ruined online games for other players? Just let it be? No, I bet you would do the same as Sony.
Doing everything to stop your console for being ruined.

If anynomous was trying to be funny, well, mission failed.

Argentum Vir said:

Oveneise said:

Argentum Vir said:

Shabutie78 said:

Gullwing said:

Suits Tretton fine... Especially after the recen Nintendo crap he said...

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what a fucking fanboy.

anyway, this is good progress to show sony just what anon is capable of.

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Umm, he did talk crap.

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What exactly did he say?

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I forget, but just some random bashing the Wii when the PSMove came out. Also the 3DS. There are a few articles floating around.

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i know he bashed the 3DS. i never said he didn't. i said that because that's such a fanboyish thing to say. "suits him fine to be harassed after he goes talking crap about the 3DS."
it wouldn't be fanboyism if the two matters were related, but they're not. so saying it "serves him right" obviously means he was butthurt over jack bashing the 3DS, and felt comfort in him being harassed because of it. a true fucking fanboy.

and to all the people saying anon is immature for sending him pizzas, well no shit.
it's a childish prank to play on the president of SCEA with a deeper meaning than you obviously realize.
they're letting him know that they have means of gaining all of his information. they've already got his phone number. the pizzas were to let him know that they have his address. it's a scare tactic, yes. just like sony has been using against all of us. well obviously not all of you whom only get hard ons for your lord savior "ninty" and don't care about other systems or the fight going on to gain the legal rights we deserve to the PS3.
who do you think anonymous is? a bunch of immature people who pose no threat at all? maybe they are immature. but that doesn't change how dangerous they can be. they took down the PSN and several sony websites as well as the site of the law firm representing sony. even if this was just LOIC, it's extremely ballsy to do it to sony, who are even known to abuse the court system, knowing what the consequences may hold.

taking the fight quite literally to the president of SCEA's doorstep might be the wake up call that sony needed in order to realize that this group is very real. and perhaps it might cause them to listen a little closer to the argument posed by the group - the arguments of us, the consumer, the "little guy."

just because you only cream for nintendo doesn't change the fact that these people are not only fighting for their rights, but for mine. for yours. you may think that just because this only applies to PS3 legality, it doesn't apply to you. but it does. geohot fought to legalize the jailbreaking of iphones, and he won. yeah, he's a douche. but he won that right for millions of people. and now this hacker group is doing the same. although i do admit they're going about it in a way that might not prove fruitful. still, they're on our side. and people need to realize this before talking down about them.

just saiyan.

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and to all the people saying anon is immature for sending him pizzas, well no shit.
it's a childish prank to play on the president of SCEA with a deeper meaning than you obviously realize.
they're letting him know that they have means of gaining all of his information. they've already got his phone number. the pizzas were to let him know that they have his address. it's a scare tactic, yes. just like sony has been using against all of us. well obviously not all of you whom only get hard ons for your lord savior "ninty" and don't care about other systems or the fight going on to gain the legal rights we deserve to the PS3.
who do you think anonymous is? a bunch of immature people who pose no threat at all? maybe they are immature. but that doesn't change how dangerous they can be. they took down the PSN and several sony websites as well as the site of the law firm representing sony. even if this was just LOIC, it's extremely ballsy to do it to sony, who are even known to abuse the court system, knowing what the consequences may hold.

taking the fight quite literally to the president of SCEA's doorstep might be the wake up call that sony needed in order to realize that this group is very real. and perhaps it might cause them to listen a little closer to the argument posed by the group - the arguments of us, the consumer, the "little guy."

just because you only cream for nintendo doesn't change the fact that these people are not only fighting for their rights, but for mine. for yours. you may think that just because this only applies to PS3 legality, it doesn't apply to you. but it does. geohot fought to legalize the jailbreaking of iphones, and he won. yeah, he's a douche. but he won that right for millions of people. and now this hacker group is doing the same. although i do admit they're going about it in a way that might not prove fruitful. still, they're on our side. and people need to realize this before talking down about them.

just saiyan.

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QFT.

I hope more people read this post before repeating the same ignorant replies over and over on this topic.

Shabutie78 said:

and to all the people saying anon is immature for sending him pizzas, well no shit.
it's a childish prank to play on the president of SCEA with a deeper meaning than you obviously realize.
they're letting him know that they have means of gaining all of his information. they've already got his phone number. the pizzas were to let him know that they have his address. it's a scare tactic, yes. just like sony has been using against all of us. well obviously not all of you whom only get hard ons for your lord savior "ninty" and don't care about other systems or the fight going on to gain the legal rights we deserve to the PS3.
who do you think anonymous is? a bunch of immature people who pose no threat at all? maybe they are immature. but that doesn't change how dangerous they can be. they took down the PSN and several sony websites as well as the site of the law firm representing sony. even if this was just LOIC, it's extremely ballsy to do it to sony, who are even known to abuse the court system, knowing what the consequences may hold.

taking the fight quite literally to the president of SCEA's doorstep might be the wake up call that sony needed in order to realize that this group is very real. and perhaps it might cause them to listen a little closer to the argument posed by the group - the arguments of us, the consumer, the "little guy."

just because you only cream for nintendo doesn't change the fact that these people are not only fighting for their rights, but for mine. for yours. you may think that just because this only applies to PS3 legality, it doesn't apply to you. but it does. geohot fought to legalize the jailbreaking of iphones, and he won. yeah, he's a douche. but he won that right for millions of people. and now this hacker group is doing the same. although i do admit they're going about it in a way that might not prove fruitful. still, they're on our side. and people need to realize this before talking down about them.

just saiyan.

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People are way too easy to hero worship.

It seems like if you see anybody fighting Sony, you'll follow them. It could be Gandhi or it could be Stalin but you'd still hold their hand because they hate Sony.

Is what Sony is doing unethical? I'd say yes. I still enjoy the company's products but there's not much you can say to make their lawsuits seem justified. But I don't think threatening them is the right way to do it or throwing eggs in their face. It's unethical, to me it seems as much as Sony suing Geohot. I don't give me this "fight fire with fire" (good Metallica song, by the way) bullshit. Just because they're playing dirty doesn't mean we should play dirty. The fact that you'd stand behind any jackass that wants Sony to end this, whether it be someone who wants to fight them with the power they have as a consumer or a bunch of 4chantards trying to dig up his personal information to use it as basically blackmail is what I find more frightening than anything Sony could do. You'd easily just follow the Anonymous like sheep to the slaughter.

If you want to "fight" Sony, do what you can. Support Geohot. I think he's a douche but it's more of a matter of principle than it is of who he is. Go boycott Sony products. Write petitions. Protest. Whatever you can. Trying to find social security numbers and attacking their websites and services is unethical and, if anything, makes me feel bad for Sony more than these hackers. Anonymous is giving them a bad name and branding the opposition to Sony's "extreme actions" as nothing but dangerous punks hellbent on pooping in everyone else's punch bowl.

Guild McCommunist said:

People are way too easy to hero worship.

It seems like if you see anybody fighting Sony, you'll follow them. It could be Gandhi or it could be Stalin but you'd still hold their hand because they hate Sony.

Is what Sony is doing unethical? I'd say yes. I still enjoy the company's products but there's not much you can say to make their lawsuits seem justified. But I don't think threatening them is the right way to do it or throwing eggs in their face. It's unethical, to me it seems as much as Sony suing Geohot. I don't give me this "fight fire with fire" (good Metallica song, by the way) bullshit. Just because they're playing dirty doesn't mean we should play dirty. The fact that you'd stand behind any jackass that wants Sony to end this, whether it be someone who wants to fight them with the power they have as a consumer or a bunch of 4chantards trying to dig up his personal information to use it as basically blackmail is what I find more frightening than anything Sony could do. You'd easily just follow the Anonymous like sheep to the slaughter.

If you want to "fight" Sony, do what you can. Support Geohot. I think he's a douche but it's more of a matter of principle than it is of who he is. Go boycott Sony products. Write petitions. Protest. Whatever you can. Trying to find social security numbers and attacking their websites and services is unethical and, if anything, makes me feel bad for Sony more than these hackers. Anonymous is giving them a bad name and branding the opposition to Sony's "extreme actions" as nothing but dangerous punks hellbent on pooping in everyone else's punch bowl.

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i agree with you that the anonymous team are doing it wrong. i even said i think they're going about it in such a way that won't prove fruitful. but they're on our side, fighting for us. so why hate them?
and everything else you said is pretty much supporting what i said. i'm confus.

Shabutie78 said:

Gullwing said:

Suits Tretton fine... Especially after the recen Nintendo crap he said...

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what a fucking fanboy.

anyway, this is good progress to show sony just what anon is capable of.

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Fuck you please... He DID talk shit, and suits him fine with all the Geohot fiasco... He is damn douche that had notthing to say, and just talked crap. Really... read before posting

Shabutie78 said:

i agree with you that the anonymous team are doing it wrong. i even said i think they're going about it in such a way that won't prove fruitful. but they're on our side, fighting for us. so why hate them?
and everything else you said is pretty much supporting what i said. i'm confus.

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Maybe I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you said that basically since Anonymous is against Sony that we should support them. Correct me if I'm wrong.

My point was that you shouldn't support Anonymous. They may be against Sony and you may be against Sony but threats aren't an ethical way to do it. The whole case about Sony is basically protecting our consumer rights, while the Anonymous are trying their hardest to violate their personal rights. Supporting them just because they support your cause is stupid if you think their methods are wrong.

Gullwing said:

Fuck you please... He DID talk shit, and suits him fine with all the Geohot fiasco... He is damn douche that had notthing to say, and just talked crap. Really... read before posting
and how does him bashing the 3DS relate in any way to him being harassed by anonymous? you're glad he's being harassed only because you got butthurt when he talked shit about the 3DS. hence: fanboyism. that's just like all the americans saying "fuck japan good thing you had an earthquake cuz REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR?"
two things that are completely non-related and yet you consider it to be payback only because of the immense amount of butthurt you feel because you're blinded by being a fanboy. and what do you mean read before posting? what does that have to do with anything?

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 10 2011, 05:36 AM) Maybe I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you said that basically since Anonymous is against Sony that we should support them. Correct me if I'm wrong.

My point was that you shouldn't support Anonymous. They may be against Sony and you may be against Sony but threats aren't an ethical way to do it. The whole case about Sony is basically protecting our consumer rights, while the Anonymous are trying their hardest to violate their personal rights. Supporting them just because they support your cause is stupid if you think their methods are wrong.

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that's not exactly what i meant. i guess i could have worded it better, but i meant that even if you don't support them, they're fighting for our rights, so why hate them? most people (including me) may not agree with the tactics they've chosen to use to fight this fight against sony, but they aren't the enemy. they aren't the bad guy. they may be doing it wrong, but they still represent the consumers' side and they aren't the "enemy." - assuming one exists.
oh, and supporting them =/= not hating them.

Shabutie78 said:

that's not exactly what i meant. i guess i could have worded it better, but i meant that even if you don't support them, they're fighting for our rights, so why hate them? most people (including me) may not agree with the tactics they've chosen to use to fight this fight against sony, but they aren't the enemy. they aren't the bad guy. they may be doing it wrong, but they still represent the consumers' side and they aren't the "enemy." - assuming one exists.
oh, and supporting them =/= not hating them.

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I want my rights protected, but not by a bunch of bullies and thugs who are willing to threaten anyone (even if its some Sony bigwig) and attack innocent people (you think that everyone who uses the PSN or goes to a Sony website deserves to have that service denied because of the Anonymous' petty war?). I'd easily support the guys who are trying to organize a boycott, write a petition, maybe start a protest, not send threats and hurt people.

Shabutie78 said:

Gullwing said:

Fuck you please... He DID talk shit, and suits him fine with all the Geohot fiasco... He is damn douche that had notthing to say, and just talked crap. Really... read before posting
and how does him bashing the 3DS relate in any way to him being harassed by anonymous? you're glad he's being harassed only because you got butthurt when he talked shit about the 3DS. hence: fanboyism. that's just like all the americans saying "fuck japan good thing you had an earthquake cuz REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR?"
two things that are completely non-related and yet you consider it to be payback only because of the immense amount of butthurt you feel because you're blinded by being a fanboy. and what do you mean read before posting? what does that have to do with anything?

QUOTE(Guild McCommunist @ Apr 10 2011, 05:36 AM) Maybe I misinterpreted what you said. I thought you said that basically since Anonymous is against Sony that we should support them. Correct me if I'm wrong.

My point was that you shouldn't support Anonymous. They may be against Sony and you may be against Sony but threats aren't an ethical way to do it. The whole case about Sony is basically protecting our consumer rights, while the Anonymous are trying their hardest to violate their personal rights. Supporting them just because they support your cause is stupid if you think their methods are wrong.

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that's not exactly what i meant. i guess i could have worded it better, but i meant that even if you don't support them, they're fighting for our rights, so why hate them? most people (including me) may not agree with the tactics they've chosen to use to fight this fight against sony, but they aren't the enemy. they aren't the bad guy. they may be doing it wrong, but they still represent the consumers' side and they aren't the "enemy." - assuming one exists.
oh, and supporting them =/= not hating them.

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I really don't care what a retard says about anything, I just hate retards that bad mouth stuff only to bad mouth them... I'm really no fanboy of anything, I nejoy playing my ps3, wii and xbox 360. If microsoft would dominate the market with Xbox, I'm so sure that that Sony CEO fucktard, would say the same thing, eve though another one dominated. Saying something just to say something is dumb and I hate it. Apart from that, it's my damn bussiness what I want to do with my PS3 . I can hack it, but I will lose warranty. Sony sold it to me, and I bought it. They are simply stupid by removing stuff that was built into the system (other OS function)... So yeah, it suits him fine. It might be stupid sending a pizza, but someone must show them that they have made some really cruel mistakes.

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I want my rights protected, but not by a bunch of bullies and thugs who are willing to threaten anyone (even if its some Sony bigwig) and attack innocent people (you think that everyone who uses the PSN or goes to a Sony website deserves to have that service denied because of the Anonymous' petty war?). I'd easily support the guys who are trying to organize a boycott, write a petition, maybe start a protest, not send threats and hurt people.
simple: then don't support them.
we're both saying the same things here.
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QUOTE...a bunch of bullies and thugs who are willing to threaten anyone ... and attack innocent people

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sounds an awful lot like sony

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...a bunch of bullies and thugs who are willing to threaten anyone ... and attack innocent people

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sounds an awful lot like sony

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My point exactly. Why support someone whose attacking Sony when they're acting like Sony? It's like supporting one oppressive government to destroy another oppressive government.

Kinda like Guy Fawkes. Common misconception is that Fawkes stands for fighting the government when he was really just trying to destroy one monarchy to replace it with another. I'm pretty sure the only reason that V wore a mask resembling him is because they both had a goal of blowing up Parliament, they didn't share the same goals in the direction of the government.

Or my information could be completely wrong.

Do half of the people on here know the real definition of hacking? Apparently not. http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/manifesto.html
This isn't a game, people lives are @ stake.
Geo freedoms is @ stake. You guys get on here posting things about people, which you have no idea what they are capable of.
Don't start a fight that you know u can't win. Sony is wrong bottom line.
I personally will support any righteous endeavor.

And for the pizza situation thats a tactic, why go in full force when one (might) back down from a warning shot.
You do the math and then tell me the outcome.

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Do half of the people on here know the real definition of hacking? Apparently not. http://www.mithral.com/~beberg/manifesto.html
This isn't a game, people lives are @ stake.
Geo freedoms is @ stake. You guys get on here posting things about people, which you have no idea what they are capable of.
Don't start a fight that you know u can't win. Sony is wrong bottom line.
I personally will support any righteous endeavor.

And for the pizza situation thats a tactic, why go in full force when one (might) back down from a warning shot.
You do the math and then tell me the outcome.

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well said, ol' chap.

If Anonymous should be opposed in addition to Sony, I don't see much progress in any argument that simply condemns their tactics. A quote from Leon Trotsky seems appropriate here because I think it deals directly with such conceptions:

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Undoubtedly the currents grouped above have certain common features. But the gist of the matter lies in the fact that the evolution of mankind exhausts itself neither by universal suffrage, not by “blood and honor,” nor by the dogma of the immaculate conception. The historical process signifies primarily the class struggle; moreover, different classes in the name of different aims may in certain instances utilize similar means. Essentially it cannot be otherwise.Armies in combat are always more or less symmetrical; were there nothing in common in their methods of struggle they could not inflict blows upon each other.

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http://marxists.org/archive/trotsky/1938/morals/morals.htm

It's true that Anonymous and Sony are not, in fact, "armies" in the military sense of the term. The point is that opposing factions, even "progressive" ones throughout history have utilized a number of disagreeable tactics that only dealt with humanitarian concerns at bottom. The decisive question is what social forces Sony and Anonymous represent in the long term, along with their interests. Sony's interests and who they represent have made themselves obvious. But does Anonymous actually, in the fullest sense, represent the living interests of the majority of the consumer populace? If the answer is yes, then there is little to do other than be critical of what actions the group carries out. If the answer is no, however, then perhaps it is time for us to build a political platform of our own.
By saying all of this, I am not trying to imply that what "tactics" to use in fighting an opponent is beyond debate. It depends almost entirely on the context of the struggle itself; the intensity of their social dynamics, etc. As for myself, I don't know what to think so far. I am unconditionally against Sony. But I think we have yet to see an opposing party that entirely represents the interests of the consumer populace. As of this post, I'm not convinced that Anonymous fits the bill. But Sony needs to be opposed, and not just for their lawsuit against Hotz. That much is certain.

It's over now and it's a draw, it's now time for them to stop their activities.

If it's truly "over now," I'd like to at least see what comes of Hotz's recent blog posts:
http://geohotgotsued.blogspot.com/

Also, part of Anonymous's initial statement was that they would push for an outcome that they were satisfied with. Whatever they have to say next on the settlement will really determine if it's over or not.

hahahaha i wonder what will happen to them if they find out who is doing this...