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The problem is that there's more to a system's power than just the GPU used to render a game at higher resolutions. There's also the main CPU that is holding it back. The CPU is used for physics and AI calculations for instance. A game like Force Unleashed could not be replicated on the 3DS in terms of gameplay. Graphics maybe somewhat, but the game would lack all the advanced physics and AI the console versions support. Meaning no Havok, Euphoria, Digital Molecular Matter, and the other stuff that is becoming popular in newer next gen games. Perhaps it could support one of those physics engines at once (Havok can apparently be ported to last gen consoles), but not all at once like Force Unleashed can do. Even a last gen game on Xbox like Half Life 2 may provide some form of difficulty if they attempted to port it to 3DS due to the physics and AI present.

I realize the resolution differences. But even on the small screen, 3DS games within its own resolution restrictions can't compare to a 360 game. The geometry processing just isn't there, clearly evident due to the far lower polygon models.

You could also put it another way. Take the best Wii game you can imagine, run it on dolphin and jack the internal resolution and anti aliasing up to Xbox 360 levels. What you would end up getting is a game that has the resolution matching a 360 game, but still a game restricted by the original system's polygon limits. You can use older PC games as examples as well. The 3DS just cannot match the 360 even within the confines of its own screen size.

I'm the LAST person who would bash the 3DS' graphics, and i'm certainly not doing so. But i'm not going to present a bunch of fallacious and fanboyish arguments that the 3DS can come close to what Xbox 360 can do. Shaders, maybe. But geometry and environmental scope? 3DS would have to take some hits to replicate a RE5 environment, as we're able to see quite clearly from Mercenaries. Textures are far muddier than RE5, 3D character models are much blockier (supporting far fewer polygons), and there are fewer characters onscreen overall. RE5 was built on hardware that could render dozens upon dozens of high polygon character models at once. RE Mercs on 3DS cannot do nearly as much it would seem.
 
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I agree, there are multiple pieces of hardware that make up the 3DS, and that's what I meant by my last post...if you multiplied the power of all the components of the 3DS evenly until it reached a television-ready output, then it would match or exceed the xBox 360.

Of course, if you included the CPU in that multiplication, then you would have more than enough power to handle the modern console innovations.

I know that the 3DS cannot directly be compared to modern consoles, I'm just saying that it's practically a mini-console in your pocket, and the word "mini" doesn't just apply to the size, but of course the overall power. For its screen size, it's practically a mini-console.

But, as with all handhelds, we can't expect Oblivion sized worlds.
 

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MADKATZ99 said:
I'm so glad people like Granville post are here...


im not i don't like reading pointless paragraphs.


"360 is very powerful actually. It has a 3.2ghz triple core Xenon processor for one, something the 3DS couldn't even pray against."

lol cpu power alone doesn't make a better system if you think that you really are lost, and yeah it's fast so what the 360 was inferior to even one of my older computers. The point here is it's newer hardware not to mention 3d something that 360 can only dream of, and the 3ds's line up is better than any console release is recent history.

"I know that the 3DS cannot directly be compared to modern consoles, I'm just saying that it's practically a mini-console in your pocket, and the word "mini" doesn't just apply to the size, but of course the overall power"

exactly im glad there's at least one person here that can see that.
 

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You're truly lost. Not only for thinking that newer technology is always better, but also if you think the game lineup is any indication of a system's horsepower (you might as well say DS is more powerful than PSP using that ridiculous logic). At least you admit that you didn't read this topic though. I would suggest though that you either do so, or refrain from quoting people and making a fool of yourself. To be able to make a valid argument, you need to keep up with the conversation. You're failing hard. This discussion is not about gameplay, and we're not using a system's power to say a game is better or worse, it's just a fact that the 360 is more powerful than the 3DS. I don't know what point you were trying to make by bringing PC's into this as well, they've been the most powerful gaming systems for a long time. Facts and reading comprehension ftw.

And as for your comment about 360 never being able to support 3D, Microsoft announced months ago that they are adding 3D support the 360 in the near future (just as Sony has already done with the PS3). Resolution might get cut down a bit, but it will hardly matter. 3DS cannot touch the 360 in any sense of power- CPU, GPU, or sound. 360 is a HD gaming system. Your failure to realize this is disturbing. The only technical aspect that the 3DS has over the 360 is the screen not requiring 3D glasses (and there are already glasses free TV's in development).

http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/micros...g-for-xbox-360/

You should also know that there will be removed effects in Resident Evil Revelations when the 3D effect is on. Motion blur and anti aliasing will only be used in 2D mode. Apparently the framerate will be cut in half as well.

BTW, did you actually think ANYONE here was saying that 360 games were better, in terms of gameplay? Fail... The comments we are discussing are about processing and graphical horsepower, not game quality. Bringing gameplay into the argument, the 3DS is not released, nor are any of their games. So even your argument that games are better on the 3DS is moot (this coming from a huge Nintendo "fanboy" who hopes to get a 3DS). The sheer fact that 360 is released and has games to play gives the 360 the stamp of "superior" until we actually have the games to determine whether any of them suck or not. You can't judge a system or its games when you haven't played them and they aren't even finished. I i could, i'd go review Zelda Skyward Sword right now even though i've not played it and it isn't out till next year.

No one should expect the 3DS to compare to the 360 in terms of power, but several people have in this very topic (yourself included). And as an unbiased poster, i am just telling you right now- the 3DS has a lot to live up to. In terms of raw processing power, the 3DS will NEVER be able to live up to the 360, PS3, or PC. In terms of games, that remains to be said. You should know better though. Power wise- the 3DS is comparable to a console from last generation. Gameplay wise remains unknown. Neither you nor me can say how any game will end up turning out.
 

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Scorpin200 said:
u talk to much

With better arguments than you
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mehrab2603 said:
The 3DS seems kinda disappointing now with all the talks of the PSP2 being as powerful as the PS3
that also is impossible. ppl need to stop beleiving this BS. First Sony says the PS3 will support 4D @120fps & dual 1080p outputs. The system ends up supporting only one HDMI output with most games running at 720p @30fps. Also never listen to IGN about hardware. they dont know anything. IGN siad teh 3DS was close to the 360, but now with the leaked specs its far from it. u dont even need specs to realize this. So now IGN is making the same statement with the PSP2. its not true. THE 3DS & PSP2 ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE POWER OF CURRENT CONSOLES!!!!!!
 

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petspaps said:
i reckon the 3ds will be more powerful than the PSP2, cause so far we know the PSP2 to be a single screen 3DS without the 3D
You will almost certainly be wrong. Powerful machine?Good graphics

Sony is notorious among system developers for releasing the most powerful console in the current gen.
 

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Painguy said:
mehrab2603 said:
The 3DS seems kinda disappointing now with all the talks of the PSP2 being as powerful as the PS3
that also is impossible. ppl need to stop beleiving this BS. First Sony says the PS3 will support 4D @120fps & dual 1080p outputs. The system ends up supporting only one HDMI output with most games running at 720p @30fps. Also never listen to IGN about hardware. they dont know anything. IGN siad teh 3DS was close to the 360, but now with the leaked specs its far from it. u dont even need specs to realize this. So now IGN is making the same statement with the PSP2. its not true. THE 3DS & PSP2 ARE NOWHERE NEAR THE POWER OF CURRENT CONSOLES!!!!!!
i wouldn't believe it at all if IGN said that.but one EA developer made the statement.that's why i believed it.
 

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wow someone removed my own posts and a few other peoples, and is accusing me of trolling in my own posting lol gba temp tard mods are some thing else.....yet nobody removed grannyvills comments. Anyway if people want to believe that a handheld is just as powerful as a console or better let me them it's their own opinion, and the 3ds is looking to be a real system worth playing unlike the consoles this gen.
 

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@Scorpin200

Insulting the moderators here is a one way ticket to getting yourself suspended or banned. My comment wasn't removed simply because i post relevant and truthful information. I don't stoop to posting false and insulting information to satisfy some fanboyish agenda. I didn't get here in time to read your removed posts, but mods here are perfectly fair. I'm not going to say anything else about the matter unless you proceed to insult me further.

BTW, shall we look at the very comment that got you into this mess?

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Ok anyone that doesn't say this isn't 360 and above quality needs to get their eyes checked as i actually think it's better, and not only because of how it looks but mainly since it's running on newer hardware.

Your quote from the original post. You clearly stated the game looked better than a 360 game. It doesn't. The games look amazing for handheld games, but if you actually think they're better than the graphics in RE5, you're sorely mistaken and need your OWN eyes checked. Newer hardware is not more powerful just because it's new, and being newer does not make games look better. If that were the case, the GBA would be more powerful than a Pentium 3. PC architecture in itself makes your statement invalid. Logic fail. If you don't understand basic hardware and what looks better or worse, please refrain from posting about it.
 
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