NeoGamma tells you what IOS it is using, and that's what matters. Hmm, if it was trying to boot it as gamecube game, then you could get some error about reading the "Offset Table". Could it be that you get "Open Partition..." and then the crash? I need to add a check if an inserted disc is a really a wii disc. There's a one in a million chance you burned the .gcm file as file and it doesn't trigger a regular error on open partition but an exception.
Did you burn wii games before with the same setup?
thanks WiiPower =)
im very psyched that my backups of XIII and CellDamage are working now, thanks to your streaming audio fix=)
Do you need to set the audio fix to yes for those 2 games? It's the first time i get any report about them, so some details would be really nice.
From the compatiblity list about XIII:
QUOTETested with WiiGator's Backup Launcher 0.2 - Game Loads and will play if you press "start" at the Backup launcher load screen. The first mission will start but Wii restarts itself after the flashback scene.
Sorry for lack of details.
No modchip, just softmodded launch era Wii on 4.2u
Running Neogamma R9b45 then updated to b47
ios249(rev17)
latest MIOSv10
im using gc internal mode, with options all set to default/auto, except force video set to Wii
my results are so:
XIII works uncompressed as a single iso, but freezes at the language select on a multi-disk.
(it does say to expect missing audio, but i cant tell).
im only up to the second mission @ 20-30 minutes of gameplay.
CellDamage also works as an uncompressed single game iso, but on a multi-game disc it freezes @ 90% on its 'loading' screen.
another streaming audio problem game i would like to see if it plays is now is SmugglersRun, but i dont have a backup atm.
NeoGamma tells you what IOS it is using, and that's what matters. Hmm, if it was trying to boot it as gamecube game, then you could get some error about reading the "Offset Table". Could it be that you get "Open Partition..." and then the crash? I need to add a check if an inserted disc is a really a wii disc. There's a one in a million chance you burned the .gcm file as file and it doesn't trigger a regular error on open partition but an exception.
Did you burn wii games before with the same setup?
Well, on the bottom, Neogamma says IOS249 (rev 17)
Basically it says "launch game" then it loads for a minute, then flashes something on the bottom real fast before switching to a DSI. Could be Open Partition, I dunno.
Too slow of reflexes. I should record it with my dazzle and go through it frame for frame.
I'm going to hold off on the nand edits while I'm drunk but I have no idea what I did. Would it help if I gave all the codes that occorred during the exception/etc.?
I'm completely inexperienced with burning disks. What I did was took at blank DVD-R, made a burn folder on my mac, threw the gcm in there, and burned it. That's all...
I dunno. I haven't burned any other games whatsoever, I use my HDD for that stuff.
EDIT: Okay, get this-it works just fine with my normal PAL brawl disk. I think it's the disk... what did I do wrong?
[...]Sorry for lack of details.
No modchip, just softmodded launch era Wii on 4.2u
Running Neogamma R9b45 then updated to b47
ios249(rev17)
latest MIOSv10
im using gc internal mode, with options all set to default/auto, except force video set to Wii
my results are so:
XII works uncompressed as a single iso, but freezes at the language select on a multi-disk.
(it does say to expect missing audio, but i cant tell).
im only up to the second mission @ 20-30 minutes of gameplay.
CellDamage also works as an uncompressed single game iso, but on a multi-game disc it freezes @ 90% on its 'loading' screen.
another streaming audio problem game i would like to see if it plays is now is SmugglersRun, but i dont have a backup atm.
If your XIII multi game disc uses a shrunk image file, that's the problem. Does NeoGamma tell you something about audio streams for it?
If a game sometimes works, sometimes not, it's most likely a bad burn or dying drive. It could also be a problem because of shrinking again.
Short: Do not shrink games that really use audio streaming.
PS: The fix that made XIII work was most likely one of the first reloader updates that made it not disable itself. The disabling was a good thing because the reloader slowed down the reading a lot, but with my speed improvements we can have both now, speed and reloading.
0bsur3 said:
Same as Eternal Darkness....
the problem are you getting is "Game could not be read, .... check for the bucklet .... ..... for more instructions?"
Something like this, don't remember exactly...
I have cIOS 38 rev 19 slot 249 , MIOS v10
It's not the same issue as yours. Well except you have a shrunken .iso. But then again NeoGamma should warn you about the bad alignment, because NeoGamma checks the alignment of .adp files and Eternal Darkness uses .adp files.
Well, on the bottom, Neogamma says IOS249 (rev 17)
Basically it says "launch game" then it loads for a minute, then flashes something on the bottom real fast before switching to a DSI. Could be Open Partition, I dunno.
Too slow of reflexes. I should record it with my dazzle and go through it frame for frame.
I'm going to hold off on the nand edits while I'm drunk but I have no idea what I did. Would it help if I gave all the codes that occorred during the exception/etc.?
I'm completely inexperienced with burning disks. What I did was took at blank DVD-R, made a burn folder on my mac, threw the gcm in there, and burned it. That's all...
I dunno. I haven't burned any other games whatsoever, I use my HDD for that stuff.
EDIT: Okay, get this-it works just fine with my normal PAL brawl disk. I think it's the disk... what did I do wrong?
Could a cIOS or cMIOS issue. You should consider reinstalling both. Well use a cIOS that is known to work with gamecube games this time, like rev19 or 20. And be sure to set NeoGamma to GC mode internal.
Hmm, so you do get into NeoGamma's GC loader? If you get that and the last thing you see for a while is "Launching game..." ("Starting Game..." would be really bad, as that's when loading wii games...), then you should try WiiGator's loader. It could be a bad .iso or a bad burn, but it sounds like NeoGamma is doing something wrong and WiiGator's loader is supposed to play the game. So after reinstalling the cIOS and cMIOS, please try again once, and then try WiiGator's loader.
is it true neogamma can run gc games without need memory card? i mean saving stuff in sd; i have been expecting this for a long time can someone confirm this?
How do you get both discs of Baten Kaitos Eternal Wings to fit on the same multi game disc? To quote the compatability list
QUOTE said:
Works using fstfix with all patches (t s g : align 32k, streamfix AND 3Gigasize iso). Works with both discs on the same multi game disc if the 1st disc is patched with "t s g" and the 2nd with "t s f". If not patched the game randomly freezes with a screeching noise. Works fine on Neogamma r9b41 mulitiiso unshrunk
I use fstfix on both discs prior to adding them to the one MultiGame ISO but Disc one becomes 3.22 GB and Disc 2 becomes 5.76 GB = 8.98 GB (DVD5 is only 4.7 GB)
I can't even burn Disc 2 on it's own onto a DVD because it is too big. I could tick Shrink in MultiGame ISO Creator, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of fstfix, or is that exactly what I should do?
i have a problem with one of my games, nba 2k3, black screen after intro video.
mi wii:
cIOS 259 v20 IOS56
cMIOS v10 (recommended on the first post)
Neogamma v44 - v47
is it true neogamma can run gc games without need memory card? i mean saving stuff in sd; i have been expecting this for a long time can someone confirm this?
I haven't tried it myself, but it should work. Did you have problems with that in the past? If yes, which exactly? And don't say memory card if you mean sd card, especially in the context of gamecube loading, that's really confusing.
bobthebigbat said:
How do you get both discs of Baten Kaitos Eternal Wings to fit on the same multi game disc? To quote the compatability list
QUOTE said:
Works using fstfix with all patches (t s g : align 32k, streamfix AND 3Gigasize iso). Works with both discs on the same multi game disc if the 1st disc is patched with "t s g" and the 2nd with "t s f". If not patched the game randomly freezes with a screeching noise. Works fine on Neogamma r9b41 mulitiiso unshrunk
I use fstfix on both discs prior to adding them to the one MultiGame ISO but Disc one becomes 3.22 GB and Disc 2 becomes 5.76 GB = 8.98 GB (DVD5 is only 4.7 GB)
I can't even burn Disc 2 on it's own onto a DVD because it is too big. I could tick Shrink in MultiGame ISO Creator, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of fstfix, or is that exactly what I should do?
The 2nd disc is supposed to get about 1.3-1.4 GB by this. You can try with your 3 GB.iso for the 1st game and a 1:1 copy for the 2nd game. Keep in mind to put the games in correct order on the disc. That's important because i think this fix only works because it gets the game to load faster. Alternatively, you could even try to put some other full size game before them and then the 2 discs as 1:1 images.
i have a problem with one of my games, nba 2k3, black screen after intro video.
mi wii:
cIOS 259 v20 IOS56
cMIOS v10 (recommended on the first post)
Neogamma v44 - v47
Do you get the screen with NeoGamma's GC loader? If not, set NeoGamma to GC mode internal and try again.
The game is listed as not working in the compatiblity list, but maybe one of NeoGamma's settings gets the game to work, try the following(leaving everything else on auto):
High plugin
patched MIOS
patched MIOS + High plugin
Audio fix yes
reloader .elf fix
reloader forced
If you have an usb gecko, then the debug log would help me more than these results.
is it true neogamma can run gc games without need memory card? i mean saving stuff in sd; i have been expecting this for a long time can someone confirm this?
I have a problem. I burned a multi game disc with 4 games. I played Eternal Darkness. It worked fine. Today, I tried using the same disc, and any time it gets to loading the second game, it errors.
I have a problem. I burned a multi game disc with 4 games. I played Eternal Darkness. It worked fine. Today, I tried using the same disc, and any time it gets to loading the second game, it errors.
I have a problem. I burned a multi game disc with 4 games. I played Eternal Darkness. It worked fine. Today, I tried using the same disc, and any time it gets to loading the second game, it errors.
I have a problem. I burned a multi game disc with 4 games. I played Eternal Darkness. It worked fine. Today, I tried using the same disc, and any time it gets to loading the second game, it errors.
- Added .wip files for Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands(not confirmed to work yet)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Switching to game video mode just before booting the game, fixes some video mode issues during the loading screen
- When using a .wip patch, it says "patch forced!" now if the old data from the .wip file did not match the data in memory
this is stated in this version in the change log and it has not worked for me (pop) is it confirmed at not working?
- Added .wip files for Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands(not confirmed to work yet)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Switching to game video mode just before booting the game, fixes some video mode issues during the loading screen
- When using a .wip patch, it says "patch forced!" now if the old data from the .wip file did not match the data in memory
this is stated in this version in the change log and it has not worked for me (pop) is it confirmed at not working?
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Reloader option ".elf fix" now uses the fast reloader instead of the forced reloader
R9 beta 45 - > R9 beta 46
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added a new reloader setting ".elf fix" which fixes .elfs that are copied to a buffer first.
This fixes the Agent under Fire crash after 2nd level(automatically used with reloader set to auto)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fixed Ocarina & wiird not working correctly with .elfs(only backups and just theorectically not tested)
R9 beta 44 - > R9 beta 45
- Enabled secret feature. Don't make me regret this decision!
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Don't disable Ocarina if no codes are found(helps to find error sources)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Enabled patched MIOS for retail disc plugin debugging
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fixed boot with only 2nd hook enabled
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fixed Wind Waker NTSC-U mini map freeze for retail discs
R9 beta 43 - > R9 beta 44
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Printing proper warnings about audio streams on screen
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): More plugin size optimisation
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Plugin debugging: Added read audio debugging for retail discs, show filenames for read audio
R9 beta 42 - > R9 beta 43
- Added option to show/hide the rebooter
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added firty fix to align bad audio streams
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added auto options for the backup plugin, patched MIOS and audio patches
R9 beta 41 - > R9 beta 42
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Moved high plugin memory setup behind the apploader loop(increases compatiblity with high plugin(not patched MIOS or Action Replay + high plugin!)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added warning when audio streams without 32KB alignment are found
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Plugin debugging: Show filenames for dvd reads
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Plugin debugging: Support for games with multiple .dols/.elfs on retail discs(only debugging related!)
R9 beta 40 - > R9 beta 41
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): More plugin size optimisations
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added some dvd read error debug messages
R9 beta 39 - > R9 beta 40
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added ability to select the 2nd disc from an actual 2nd disc
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Checking the disc cover once, it seems this helps with disc switching in-game
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Trying to revert memory setup when loading Action Replay(so it does not overwrite the backup plugin)
R9 beta 38 - > R9 beta 39
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Changed the debug printf patterns to patterns received from Crediar, more stable + more output
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added option to play around with the Audio Status Request fix
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added patched MIOS boot method
R9 beta 37 - > R9 beta 38
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): More reloader optimisations, the fast reloader should work on everything now(there's a chance it breaks games that worked before with fast reloader, these should still work with forced reloader...)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Freeze with memory card in slot B should be fixed
R9 beta 36 - > R9 beta 37
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Made the debug printf in the loader itself non blocking, should fix the current GC retail disc + Wiird issues
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fix for Wind Waker PAL freeze on mini map, might work in NTSC-U (extracted from MIOSv5, yes no c there)
R9 beta 33 - > R9 beta 34
- Only calling dvd inquiry once per NeoGamma boot(should fix init drive errors when using IOS61 for storage access[thanks to luminalace for reporting it], might also fix random inquiry errors)
- Updated the HBC icon with transparency
R9 beta 32 - > R9 beta 33
- Added Sneek's video patch for wii games, may work better than the old patches
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Adding plugin debugging to the GUI, even for retail discs(requires usb gecko!)
R9 beta 31 - > R9 beta 32
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Maybe fixed Action Replay support(changed suspicious jumptable nr)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): More plugin size optimisation
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Forced reloader is not saved anymore, it's only for testing(if a game requires it, NeoGamma will do it automatically once it is known)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Moved the memory setup before the apploader, might increase compatibility
R9 beta 30 - > R9 beta 31
- Better understandable drive warnings on read error
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Dirty fix for Ikaruga(Thanks to Crediar for pointing to 0xCC006020 for Audio Status Requests)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added lots of debug output(need to build debug version for this)
R9 beta 29 - > R9 beta 30
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fixed audio streaming on retail discs with the help of Crediar(Eternal Darkness, Starfox Adventures ...)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added 4 new hooktypes thanks to Crediar(they all are for the same function, but different patterns)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added possiblity to boot games with the high plugin for testing purposes(that it'S not saved is not a bug!)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Maybe fixed some serious memory setup issue(should be most noticeable when using the high plugin)
R9 beta 28 - > R9 beta 29
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Fixed wrong time&date in GC games
R9 beta 27 - > R9 beta 28
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Removed dvd_report_error_replacement to get more free memory
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Calling the callback function directly for everything that does nothing
R9 beta 26 - > R9 beta 27
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Next try to get rid of the random crashes
R9 beta 25 - > R9 beta 26
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added another sleep before video init in GC mode
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Removed pad init in GC mode
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added option to set reloader to forced(fixes 007 Agent under Fire, automatically set to forced on it)
R9 beta 24 - > R9 beta 25
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added a sleep before booting BC, hopefully fixes these random crashes
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Output which dvd function is used(just additional info)
R9 beta 23 - > R9 beta 24
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added Nicksasa's GC hooks again, they seem to work for a few games
R9 beta 22 - > R9 beta 23
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added warnings if dvd functions could or would not be patched
R9 beta 21 - > R9 beta 22
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Using a png as background now
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Removed sleep from beta 21, didn't help
R9 beta 20 - > R9 beta 21
- Using devkitPPC r21, libogc 1.8.3 and libfat 1.0.7 now
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added a sleep before video init(maybe helps with random crashes on startup)
R9 beta 19 - > R9 beta 20
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Virtually disable Ocarina when no codes are found
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Removed debugging only related dvd commands in the plugins
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added plugin memory protection on reloader(_tiny_ chance it fixes some multi .dol game problems)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added report_error to low plugin(_tiny_ chance it fixes some audio problems)
R9 beta 18 - > R9 beta 19
- All unused options are now greyed out
- Allow .gct files with 4 and 6 digits of the disc id
- Auto Force language now only forces if the Wii's region is different from the game's region
- Added hidden feature for developers only, only talk in PM about it
R9 beta 17 - > R9 beta 18
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Restored the possibilty to boot single game discs with Action Replay on a multi game disc
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Speed optimisation for the reloader
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Removed unused code
R9 beta 16 - > R9 beta 17
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Dirty fix for Pokemon Box(proved to be not that bad)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Enabled reloader for games booted via Action Replay(but cheats won't work on mutli .dol games)
R9 beta 15 - > R9 beta 16
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Finally added reloader support
R9 beta 14 - > R9 beta 15
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Allow the drive to reset. The 2nd disc feature now works(again)
R9 beta 13 - > R9 beta 14
- Cosmetical changes to GUI and code
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Calling ICInvalidateRange after DCFlushRange in the backup plugin, maybe increases stability, but results in slower reading
R9 beta 12 - > R9 beta 13
- Finally added saving of the gamecube options
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added Ocarina support (only retail discs)
R9 beta 11 - > R9 beta 12
- Added .wip files for Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands(not confirmed to work yet)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Switching to game video mode just before booting the game, fixes some video mode issues during the loading screen
- When using a .wip patch, it says "patch forced!" now if the old data from the .wip file did not match the data in memory
R9 beta 10 - > R9 beta 11
- Changed alt .dol code, seems bss wasn't cleared...
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): reverted video mode code from beta 10
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added proof of concept Wiird support for GC(only retail discs, only debugger, only VI hook)
R9 beta 9 - > R9 beta 10
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Changed video mode code in the GC loading screen(doesn't change anything...)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Using drive command to enable audio streaming now(retail Eternal Darkness still not booting, while the backup still boots)
R9 beta 8 - > R9 beta 9
- Added identification of the used cIOS(rev13a+b, rev18 and rev19 only)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Disabled all debug printf and patching of debug printf in the main.dol
R9 beta 7 - > R9 beta 8
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added video mode patches
R9 beta 6 - > R9 beta 7
- Rearranged the menu
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added PAL(auto) video mode, it's PAL480i for NTSC and PAL576i for PAL games
- Don't bug with the drive info when loading from usb
R9 beta 5 - > R9 beta 6
- Prevent that a stubbed IOS249 is loaded
- Added warning on dvd read error for drives that can't read DVD-Rs(needs to be improved)
- Hide usb/sd loading option when using an IOS
R9 beta 4 - > R9 beta 5
- Added code that allows to identify where a dvd read error occured
R9 beta 3 - > R9 beta 4
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Partly fixed video mode code, forcing PAL60 works at least for some NTSC games now(but not PAL games!)
R9 beta 2 - > R9 beta 3
- Fixed alt .dol disc+ bug causing some .dols to be unloadable
- Added .wdm file for Rampage: Total Destrucion(by woodoste)
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Hopefully fixed code dump when playing certain backups that are not multi game discs(bug found by Levente)
R9 beta 1 - > R9 beta 2
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Added support for retail discs
- Gamecube loading(internal GC mode): Changed video mode code, only confirmed working video mode is NTSC480i, PAL480i is confirmed to NOT work at the moment, PAL576i seems to work, progressive unknown
- Gamecube loading: Clearing bss before loading .dol sections for homebrew .dols(only relevant when building a cMIOS)
R8 - > R9 beta 1
- Gamecube multi game disc selection moved to wii mode(compatible cMIOS + GC mode 'internal' only) see gamecube.txt for details
- Fixed controls(support 2nd, 3rd and 4th controller, shutdown always possible when waiting for button press)
<b>Gamecube backups on discs mini FAQ:</b>
<b>Requirements for gamecube backup launching from disc with NeoGamma:
</b>- A Wii with a backup compatible drive(black Wiis are generally not backup compatible, backup resistant Wiis were sold since christmas '09, no backup disc compatible Wiis in the shelves anymore 1-2 months later). Easy test: In the <b>latest NeoGamma</b>, remove disc from the drive and select launch game from disc. You will get a read error. If it doesn't say anything about your drive, then it should be old enough.
- A GC backup compatible cIOS installed and used. For testing until it works, install cIOS37rev19 or cIOS56rev20. NeoGamma shows at the bottom of the screen which cIOS is used. If does not say: cIOS37rev19 or cIOS56rev20 (slot 249), you did not install the cIOS correctly.
- A GC homebrew compatible cMIOS. If you don't know which one you have, just install a good one. cMIOS and MIOS always overwrite any MIOS or cMIOS you currently have installed. Waninkoko's cMIOS up to rev5(including) are not GC homebrew compatible. All of WiiGator's cMIOS should be compatible. And there's only compatible or not compatible, there are no differences in games compatibility or anything else between different cMIOS. Recommend cMIOS: The one from this thread, because: It's NeoGamma compatible and still allows to play retail GC discs from disc channel without issues.
- The correct options in NeoGamma:
Storage device: SD or USB using cIOS(the others should work too, but most people try everything, so...)
Gamecube Mode: internal (MIOS just boots MIOS like the disc channel does, external boots sd:/NeoGamma/GC.dol in GC mode)
Force Video: Disc(with component cables, you might need to try all options)
Patch Video: No(only relevant on import games with color issues)
Reloader, Backup plugin, Audio fix and Patched MIOS: Auto
All other options are not GC backup launching relevant. Yes this includes the GC Ocarina and debugger options. But if you want to be safe, set everything in that menu to no.
- A valid game image written on the disc. Well the best way to find out if this is the reason why GC backup launching is not working at all is to create a clean new dump from a retail disc with SuperDump. Multi game discs are valid discs, but i can only say that the multi game discs created with the tool linked in this thread work for sure
- And last but not least: A good disc. Only use high quality media and never burn slower than 4x. If you believe you need to burn slow, then use 4x, all others try 8x,12x or 16x. <b>And DVD+Rs need the booktype set to DVD-R(dvd-rom) on burning, or the Wii won't be able to read them.</b> This procedure is called bitsetting, just google it.
<b>Official compatiblity list:</b>
<a href="http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Gamecube_Backup_Launcher_Compatibility_List" target="_blank">http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/Gamecube_Back...patibility_List</a>
(NeoGamma should play everything that plays on WiiGator's loader, there's no need to flood the list with "works on NeoGamma" and similar)
<b>Recommend cMIOS</b> for homebrew, and retail&backup discs, it's WiiGator's cMIOS just in a new installer(only required for GC mode internal or external):
New one(based on MIOSv10):
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?4ayvwgqey66qc9v" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?4ayvwgqey66qc9v</a>
Old one(based on MIOSv4):
<a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?mn2jzmqg0ny" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?mn2jzmqg0ny</a>
<b>Recommend cIOS:</b>
A cIOS with IOS56 as base IOS. It should work for all games(including MH3 and Rockband), and seems to be as fast as IOS57. More info(why base IOS56):
<a href="http://gbatemp.net/t243593-monster-hunter-tri-and-instrument-games" target="_blank">http://gbatemp.net/t243593-monster-hunter-...nstrument-games</a>
Other cIOS may work for GC games too, but official support will only be granted for cIOS37rev19 or cIOS56rev20+.
Alternative cMIOS for homebrew but for <b>retail discs only</b>(only required for GC mode internal or external):
<a href="http://gbatemp.net/t228430-i-have-my-own-cmios-now-yay" target="_blank">http://gbatemp.net/t228430-i-have-my-own-cmios-now-yay</a>
Put several GC games on a single game disc:
<b>MultiGame ISO Creator v3.5.4F+
</b><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?yzy3jm0jmmz" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?yzy3jm0jmmz</a>
<b>(Attention: Please use "fstfix t" on all shrunken .isos, after shrinking, before putting on multi game discs. This should fix all issues with games that "don't work shrunken". And it might also increase the reading speed for those games.)</b> The reason for this is that audio streams(.adp files) need 32KB alignment, but the shrinking kills it, "fstfix t" gets all files to 32KB alignment.
"Fix" GC .iso files
<b>Wiped GCM Fixer 1.5F also callled Fstfix 1.5F
</b><a href="http://filetrip.net/g1604-fstfix-exe.html" target="_blank">http://filetrip.net/g1604-fstfix-exe.html</a>
Baten Kaitos works if both discs are put on the same multi game disc with MultiGame ISO Creator v3.5.4F+, and the 1st disc is patched with the options:
FSTFIX BKdisc1.gcm t s g
and the 2nd with these:
FSTFIX BKdisc2.gcm t s f
Open GC .iso files and extract stuff(more or less WiiScrubber for GC games)
<b>GC-Tool
</b><a href="http://filetrip.net/f818-GC-Tool-1-20-beta.html" target="_blank">http://filetrip.net/f818-GC-Tool-1-20-beta.html</a>
All "new" GC stuff is only revevant if a <b>compatible cMIOS</b> is used and NeoGamma is set to <b>internal GC mode</b>.
Note that Waninkoko's cMIOS up to rev5(including) are not compatible with GC mode internal and external.
For more details about the different GC modes see gamecube.txt
The NeoGamma gamecube modes allow to change NeoGamma's behaviour when booting gamecube discs.
All these settings are only relevant if there's a GC disc in the drive and it is "launched"
Once Waninkoko released rev6 of his cMIOS, NeoGamma will be able to use both GC loaders(its own
and Waninkokos') without the need to install a new cMIOS. (it will obviously require to have
Waninkoko's cMIOS rev6 installed) With GC mode MIOS it will load with Waninkoko's loader, with
internal GC mode it will use its own loader. This way it will be possible to switch quickly
between both to get the best from both.
The modes:
MIOS:
Just boot the MIOS, boots the GC disc the same way as Gecko OS and the old Gamma do
external*:
Makes the MIOS boot the _homebrew_ GC .dol located in the NeoGamma folder on sd
card(sd:/NeoGamma/GC.dol). This is can be used for example to use WiiGator's 0.2 GC backup
launcher instead of the modified version NeoGamma uses
internal*:
Launches the included GC backup launcher, which is a modification of WiiGator's 0.2 GC backup
launcher. Currently this doesn't support booting with a patch MIOS, but has some improvements
regaring the reloader. For multi game discs, the selection which game to boot is moved to wii
mode. Select 2nd disc with 1/Z, if no 2nd disc is selected it is auto detected. To switch the
disc in-game, just eject and reinsert the disc.
*external and internal GC mode require a compatible cMIOS. WiiGator's cMIOS are compatible,
Waninkoko's cMIOS rev 6+ will most likely also be compatible
<b><u><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->List of achieved improvements for GC loading:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></u></b>
(improvements over WiiGator's loader)
- Play retail GC discs
- Play retail "problem games" like Eternal Darkness, Starfox Adventures and Zelda Ocarina of Time
- Ocarina/Wiird on retail GC discs
- Select which game to boot from multi game discs in wii mode(NeoGamma itself)
- Autodetection for 2nd disc on multi game discs
- Increased speed for the reloader(setting: fast, forced is as slow as before but may have a better compatibility)
- The reloader always stays active now
- Optional alternative Audio Status Request handling(gets Ikaruga to work)
- Fixing .elf files that are loaded to a buffer first(fixes 007 Agent under Fire crash after the 2nd level)
<b><u><!--sizeo:5--><span style="font-size:18pt;line-height:100%"><!--/sizeo-->Known and confirmed not working gamecube backups:<!--sizec--></span><!--/sizec--></u></b>
- Phantasy Star Online 1+2+3(black screen with normal plugin, "an error occured" with high plugin)
- 007 Everything or Nothing(more details required)
- Write to SRAM, this could be the solution for some video mode issues, and allow to force languages
- Proper Audio Status Request handling(the old handling breaks Ikaruga, the new breaks Eternal Darkness)
- Find a way to fake/force the language setting(SRAM?)
- Get progressive video mode to work on all games that support it(can't test myself => very low priority)
- .wip patches for gamecube games
- Alternative .dol loading(maybe won't be done, because the reloader seems to work nicely)
- Wiird for backup discs(for backups not possible, because the code that actually reads from DVD-R uses the memory that's required for Ocarina/Wiird)<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hello.
I use the latest Neogamma, and I can not find the Force NTSC feature.
If someone can tell me how to force NTSC on the latest neogamma, that would be really helpful!
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Hello.
I use the latest Neogamma, and I can not find the Force NTSC feature.
If someone can tell me how to force NTSC on the latest neogamma, that would be really helpful!
Thank You.
Hello.
I use the latest Neogamma, and I can not find the Force NTSC feature.
If someone can tell me how to force NTSC on the latest neogamma, that would be really helpful!
Thank You.
For Wii: Options - Wii Options - Force Video: NTSC480i or NTSC 480p if you have a component one.
For GC: Options - GC Options - Force Video: NTSC480i or NTSC 480p if you have a component one.
Hi. Wanted to say a big thanks to wiipower for all work gone into neogamma.
I have installed everything correctly (hopefully) and can run almost everything but have one problem with Crazy Taxi NTSC. The game runs fine but for some reason it has no music. I checked the compatabilty list and it says it runs perfectly but has no bgm music with 01.xi. When I run neogamma it says at the bottom Neogamma R9 r47 ios249 rev19 so not sure if I have the correct cios installed. My system menu is 4.2u and is softmodded. I used NUS to get mios v4 and ran cmios wiigator through the homebrew channel to install that. Have I miss something?
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