Hacking Sending Hacked Wii to Nintendo?

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EseHomes said:
luminalace said:
Dude you may find that Nintendo charge more than the other places above unless your under warranty! Also my cousin thought his drive was dead but all he needed was a replacement lens! Also if Nintendo put in system menu 4.3 it will be a tough road to get your Wii back to what it is now!
tough...really? You must be new. There is a way around it but it does take more steps to do.
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So with your workaround, how do you get back the Homebrew Channel with system menu 4.3 in place?
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Oh, I see. You end up downgrading to system menu 4.1.
 

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Dent said:
EseHomes said:
luminalace said:
Dude you may find that Nintendo charge more than the other places above unless your under warranty! Also my cousin thought his drive was dead but all he needed was a replacement lens! Also if Nintendo put in system menu 4.3 it will be a tough road to get your Wii back to what it is now!
tough...really? You must be new. There is a way around it but it does take more steps to do.
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So with your workaround, how do you get back the Homebrew Channel with system menu 4.3 in place?
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Oh, I see. You end of downgrading to system menu 4.1.
Wrong. After you did all that IOS41-Thingy with Indy PWNs, you install Priiloader/Startpatch and disable the Checks for the HBC/DVDX/etc. Not really a clean solution, but it should work until the new HackMii-Installer is here.
 

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scruffman said:
Why don't u just get a new drive as most ppl have recommended to u.
Or may be your lens is gone. Does the drive read original games.

It won't accept disks. So I'm in need of a replacement. It's not the lens. Thanks for the help guys. I guess 3rd party companies have to help me now.
 

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Blue-K said:
Dent said:
So with your workaround, how do you get back the Homebrew Channel with system menu 4.3 in place?
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Oh, I see. You end of downgrading to system menu 4.1.
Wrong. After you did all that IOS41-Thingy with Indy PWNs, you install Priiloader/Startpatch and disable the Checks for the HBC/DVDX/etc. Not really a clean solution, but it should work until the new HackMii-Installer is here.

Not only that, but you do have to downgrade a few IOS's for the hackmii installer to find vulnerabilities to be able to install HBC and bootmii (since it wont use a fakesign patch IOS (for security reasons...of course))
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QUOTE(scruffman @ Jul 10 2010, 12:27 PM)
Why don't u just get a new drive as most ppl have recommended to u.
Or may be your lens is gone. Does the drive read original games.

It won't accept disks. So I'm in need of a replacement. It's not the lens. Thanks for the help guys. I guess 3rd party companies have to help me now.
Like I said, talk to Ed from vgcrepairs.biz....that is if you are in the US. He is the most trustworthy person I know in this field.

PS. STAY FAR AWAY FROM FOUNDMY.COM, The guy there is an irresponsible prick and just outsources everything to ed from vgcrepairs.biz anyways... who takes all the bullshit that foundmy does and eats it up in a friendly businessman type manner. Trust me, just goto vgcrepairs.biz, you will not regret it.
 

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SFenton said:
Why not just find a Play N' Trade if there's one in your area? So much easier. Unless of course there's not one. >.>
Because they are dicks and rape you of your money for what something is worth. By far they don't ever do anything close to an even trade. Someone is better off doing a walmart scam swap before going to gamestop or play n' trade.
 

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Zeek03 said:
scruffman said:
Why don't u just get a new drive as most ppl have recommended to u.
Or may be your lens is gone. Does the drive read original games.
It won't accept disks. So I'm in need of a replacement. It's not the lens. Thanks for the help guys. I guess 3rd party companies have to help me now.
Wait, how are you sure it's not the lens?
How exactly will it "not accept discs"?

Anyways...

http://hackmii.com/2010/04/check-disk-for-...repair-process/

That shows nintendo does a lot of checks, so I also suggest fixing it yourself.
 

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EseHomes said:
SFenton said:
Why not just find a Play N' Trade if there's one in your area? So much easier. Unless of course there's not one. >.>
Because they are dicks and rape you of your money for what something is worth. By far they don't ever do anything close to an even trade. Someone is better off doing a walmart scam swap before going to gamestop or play n' trade.

Not a fair statement about Play N' Trade. The one over by my house is great. Each is family-owned- it's a franchise- so just because you've had a bad experience at one doesn't speak for the rest of them, nor should it speak for the OP, who I'll again reccomend it to.
 

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SFenton said:
EseHomes said:
SFenton said:
Why not just find a Play N' Trade if there's one in your area? So much easier. Unless of course there's not one. >.>
Because they are dicks and rape you of your money for what something is worth. By far they don't ever do anything close to an even trade. Someone is better off doing a walmart scam swap before going to gamestop or play n' trade.

Not a fair statement about Play N' Trade. The one over by my house is great. Each is family-owned- it's a franchise- so just because you've had a bad experience at one doesn't speak for the rest of them, nor should it speak for the OP, who I'll again reccomend it to.
Yeah, sorry. I've become less of a fan of corporations since the BP oil spill. Play N' Trade is still corporate run and has to pay royalties and follow certain rules that make them no better than burger king or gamestop.

{Mmmmm. Burger King.....yummy}. I'm feeling hungry, how about you?
 

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First off, has anyone in the US had nintendo say they noticed hacks and want to charge $200?

Also even if your out of warranty here's what you can do to get a free repair.

Just call them up to do the repair and tell them that your wii was bricked while you were updating via the official Nintendo Update to 4.3.

To make sure they can't find hacks (I'm not sure if they check in US), use Comex's NAND formatter to the NAND will be empty.

FREE WII.
 

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cthg said:
First off, has anyone in the US had nintendo say they noticed hacks and want to charge $200?

Also even if your out of warranty here's what you can do to get a free repair.

Just call them up to do the repair and tell them that your wii was bricked while you were updating via the official Nintendo Update to 4.3.

To make sure they can't find hacks (I'm not sure if they check in US), use Comex's NAND formatter to the NAND will be empty.

FREE WII.
Sorry man, your quick guide has many flaws. First off a person needs to sound stupid and not as if they know what they are talking about. The BEST thing for a person to say to Nintendo is "I went to the shop channel wanting to purchase a game with the wii points card that I bought and it asked me to do an update so I did it and now WTF?!?!?

Yes, people have had nintendo say $200 for the repair. I'm not sure if it was out of US, but there is a blog about it a few months ago on the hackmii.org site where bushing tried to examine how they found traces of unauthorized software, but he found traces of the app that they ran and figured out half of it...but enough to know that no virginizing will cover any wii unless they run comex's nand formatter.
 

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Does anyone find it odd that Nintendo charges $200?? lol I mean u could buy a new Wii at that price!! lol They'll prob screw u over and charge u anyways regardless and send u a Newer Wii (With D3-2 chip 2 prevent future Hacking) and pass it off as urs when u 1st bought it!! lol I'd just get a replacement Drive + Access Pro Tool Kit v3 (Google it) and install it myself!! lol
 

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EseHomes said:
cthg said:
First off, has anyone in the US had nintendo say they noticed hacks and want to charge $200?

Also even if your out of warranty here's what you can do to get a free repair.

Just call them up to do the repair and tell them that your wii was bricked while you were updating via the official Nintendo Update to 4.3.

To make sure they can't find hacks (I'm not sure if they check in US), use Comex's NAND formatter to the NAND will be empty.

FREE WII.
Sorry man, your quick guide has many flaws. First off a person needs to sound stupid and not as if they know what they are talking about. The BEST thing for a person to say to Nintendo is "I went to the shop channel wanting to purchase a game with the wii points card that I bought and it asked me to do an update so I did it and now WTF?!?!?

Yes, people have had nintendo say $200 for the repair. I'm not sure if it was out of US, but there is a blog about it a few months ago on the hackmii.org site where bushing tried to examine how they found traces of unauthorized software, but he found traces of the app that they ran and figured out half of it...but enough to know that no virginizing will cover any wii unless they run comex's nand formatter.
I believe all such instances mentioned on Hackmii.org occured in Europe.

Really the worse they can do is give you a new wii with 4.3 and the DVD drive that can't play backups. You can still downgrade to a firmware that allows homebrew channel and use usbloader for piracy.
 

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edit since I was not clear: I'm not saying this will get your wii fixed, I'm just commenting on how to deal with customer support people in general. keep your story simple and be nice.

EseHomes said:
Sorry man, your quick guide has many flaws. First off a person needs to sound stupid and not as if they know what they are talking about. The BEST thing for a person to say to Nintendo is "I went to the shop channel wanting to purchase a game with the wii points card that I bought and it asked me to do an update so I did it and now WTF?!?!?
I think you may be a bit paranoid with that one... or giving nintendo too much credit. I'd be willing to bet that when you call what you get is some entry level customer service guy that takes 1000 calls a week, and doesn't really care what you say as long as you don't flat out say "I hacked my wii and it broke". I've been in that position on the company end for logitech, and believe me as long as you mention a covered scenario (like a forced update turning your device into a paperweight) you're golden.

edit: and to be honest, acting stupid is more likely to get someone poking around to see what exactly went wrong. As will acting like a smartass for that matter. as long as you're nice and just give a simple explanation that you did a recommended system update and now the system will not boot.
 

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Rydian said:
bwillb, check the link I posted. They actually use a premade tool disc to check things before fixing it.
oh im not saying they don't do checks, I know they do. I was just saying that the whole "play dumb" thing is.... well, dumb. SOrry I quoted the whole post so that may not have been clear
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It was more of a general commentary on getting technical support from any phone support... If you're going to lie to them, keep it simple and play it nice.
 

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bwillb said:
I think you may be a bit paranoid with that one... or giving nintendo too much credit. I'd be willing to bet that when you call what you get is some entry level customer service guy that takes 1000 calls a week, and doesn't really care what you say as long as you don't flat out say "I hacked my wii and it broke". I've been in that position on the company end for logitech, and believe me as long as you mention a covered scenario (like a forced update turning your device into a paperweight) you're golden.

edit: and to be honest, acting stupid is more likely to get someone poking around to see what exactly went wrong. As will acting like a smartass for that matter. as long as you're nice and just give a simple explanation that you did a recommended system update and now the system will not boot.
Hate to sound like I'm shutting you down, but what you believe or think is wrong. It is already known and proven that they have this disc to detect unauthorized software. What would make you think that this global corporation is exclusively keeping this disc in Europe? Yes, maybe so far reports have only come from Europe, but that does not mean anything. Most people who are too noob to understand the wii that might get caught after hacking their wii might just be too noob to report it to communities like this because they hacked their wii from a torrent from some stranger on the net with no good info on it.

Sure, I will not hold you back from taking a chance with your wii if you ever need to send it to nintendo, but everyone else I will tell them the truest way of being able to cover up all traces. Because what if someone takes what you say for truth, then they send their wii to nintendo, nintendo finds unauthorized software, then they black list it so you can never send it to them again unless you pay a huge fee. I'd rather not tell someone to take that kind of a risk. I'd rather prepare someone for the worst with what I know that Nintendo has out there.

Just my thoughts. Do what you want with your own wii, but dont give someone false advice just because you have a feeling about something. Going absolutely safe is better than feeling sorry later....and then being blacklisted.
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QUOTE(Rydian @ Jul 10 2010, 09:53 PM) bwillb, check the link I posted. They actually use a premade tool disc to check things before fixing it.
oh im not saying they don't do checks, I know they do. I was just saying that the whole "play dumb" thing is.... well, dumb. SOrry I quoted the whole post so that may not have been clear
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It was more of a general commentary on getting technical support from any phone support... If you're going to lie to them, keep it simple and play it nice.
The scenarios that I gave of what would be best to say to nintendo is really a safe bet. Saying anything about 4.3 or 4.2 update makes it sound versed. Saying you just wanted to play a game, and then some update thingy, and next you know that you're wii is bricked is a better way of doing it. But if you're going to claim that your wii is bricked, then you need to purposely brick it beyond nintendo running anything on it to find anything at all. Running comex's nand formatter from bootmii ios is the safest bet because even if it does not finish successfully then at least all previous data was formatted off. If it does complete successfully then you have a clean virgine working wii system that nintendo can not find any traces on unless they hire a forensic scientist...and that would cost nintendo too much for little ol' you.
 

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EseHomes said:
bwillb said:
I think you may be a bit paranoid with that one... or giving nintendo too much credit. I'd be willing to bet that when you call what you get is some entry level customer service guy that takes 1000 calls a week, and doesn't really care what you say as long as you don't flat out say "I hacked my wii and it broke". I've been in that position on the company end for logitech, and believe me as long as you mention a covered scenario (like a forced update turning your device into a paperweight) you're golden.

edit: and to be honest, acting stupid is more likely to get someone poking around to see what exactly went wrong. As will acting like a smartass for that matter. as long as you're nice and just give a simple explanation that you did a recommended system update and now the system will not boot.
Hate to sound like I'm shutting you down, but what you believe or think is wrong. It is already known and proven that they have this disc to detect unauthorized software. What would make you think that this global corporation is exclusively keeping this disc in Europe? Yes, maybe so far reports have only come from Europe, but that does not mean anything. Most people who are too noob to understand the wii that might get caught after hacking their wii might just be too noob to report it to communities like this because they hacked their wii from a torrent from some stranger on the net with no good info on it.

Sure, I will not hold you back from taking a chance with your wii if you ever need to send it to nintendo, but everyone else I will tell them the truest way of being able to cover up all traces. Because what if someone takes what you say for truth, then they send their wii to nintendo, nintendo finds unauthorized software, then they black list it so you can never send it to them again unless you pay a huge fee. I'd rather not tell someone to take that kind of a risk. I'd rather prepare someone for the worst with what I know that Nintendo has out there.

Just my thoughts. Do what you want with your own wii, but dont give someone false advice just because you have a feeling about something. Going absolutely safe is better than feeling sorry later....and then being blacklisted.
bwillb said:
QUOTE(Rydian @ Jul 10 2010, 09:53 PM) bwillb, check the link I posted. They actually use a premade tool disc to check things before fixing it.
oh im not saying they don't do checks, I know they do. I was just saying that the whole "play dumb" thing is.... well, dumb. SOrry I quoted the whole post so that may not have been clear
ohnoes.png
It was more of a general commentary on getting technical support from any phone support... If you're going to lie to them, keep it simple and play it nice.
The scenarios that I gave of what would be best to say to nintendo is really a safe bet. Saying anything about 4.3 or 4.2 update makes it sound versed. Saying you just wanted to play a game, and then some update thingy, and next you know that you're wii is bricked is a better way of doing it. But if you're going to claim that your wii is bricked, then you need to purposely brick it beyond nintendo running anything on it to find anything at all. Running comex's nand formatter from bootmii ios is the safest bet because even if it does not finish successfully then at least all previous data was formatted off. If it does complete successfully then you have a clean virgine working wii system that nintendo can not find any traces on unless they hire a forensic scientist...and that would cost nintendo too much for little ol' you.
yeah as I said above, I didn't mean to say that this would get a wii fixed by any means, just that generally its best to keep your story simple and not be rude.

as far as the specific scenario, keep in mind that nintendo begs you to update EVERYWHERE. the store, the wifi connection test page, hell they even send you a Wii Mail asking you to update to 4.3. simply saying you did a system update and now it won't boot isn't exactly admitting to be a rocket scientist
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If u were 2 run Comex' NAND Formtter wouldn't that fix ur bricked Wii instead of just erasing all the hacks that were on it?? lol
 

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