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kiczek · Sep 14, 2004

Tempest Stormwind

Why do u lock ur news topics on the main page ? afraid of comments ?
you do know that your news posts are lame don't you ?
u deserve getting flamed for the amount of stupidity in them OOOHHH new demos == BS

do you really think people who pirate GBA games care about PC GAME demos ?

put out some real news like umm

The_Sims2_AlcoholClone-CLONEGAME.
Burnout_3_USA_XBOXDVD-USA
Silent_Hill_4-USA-XBOX-RETAIL-DAGGER

u'll prolly ban me for posting my opinions bc it seems to happen to just about everyone.

Discussing my opinion should not get me banned! vote on it. I bet you no one cares tell us whats new in GBA or shut up.
-kiczek

Luse · Sep 23, 2004

Well here are a few links to show the history some of us lived through...

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=1217&hl=

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=1502&hl=

and lastly

http://gbatemp.net/index.php?act=ST&f=1&t=3346

So it's all mostly in those three topics... Check the dates, and what's said... It was both for bandwidth and legal reasons, I think these topics show that the legal reasons where a big consern...

The birth of #gbatemp is in the second link, so again I think I can safely say that the channel was born from the board, and yes that does mean something...

@ Tempest I know gbasave went down, but naff said he's getting it back up... I just checked and it's still down...

DeMoN · Sep 23, 2004

Awww..... I wish I was there, when KiVan actually visited his forums. *smacks DemonStar for not knowing about GBAtemp till too late*

Puck The Joker · Sep 23, 2004

QUOTE(djnaff @ Sep 22 2004 said:
I just want to point out that gbatemp is a warez site and always has been a warez site

the news that get posted on the main page is warez the roms and savepatchs that you talk about are warez

Wow, I haven't seen a bigger pile of crap since I went to the bathroom. I think you need to get a few things straight.

First, GBAtemp WAS a warez site when roms were available to be downloaded on the board. We have nothing more than information about the roms now.

Second, save patches are as much considered warez as windows update patches are considered warez. Both fix problems within their respective products.

Third, if the fact that this site posts news and info relating to the newest game release, then by your logic, sites like IGN and Gamespot are warez sites as well. Lets look at the facts here...

* GBAtemp posts information about the newest rom/game releases.
* IGN and Gamespot post info on upcoming and released games.
* GBAtemp posts pics about upcoming and current games.
* IGN and Gamespot post pics about upcoming and current games.

So let me sum this up for the people who can't read more than a line without having a headache, GBAtemp is as much a warez site as is IGN and Gamespot.

djnaff · Sep 24, 2004

The site post's news about gba roms not gba gba games that are just out.

roms = warez
so yes its a werez site

Tempest Stormwin · Sep 24, 2004

You are arguing pointless semantics and you know it.

We discuss Game Boy Advance titles. We simply do not care how our members get them or play them.

This site does not discuss rom distribution, or any other aspect of the warez scene. The ONLY tip-of-the-hat we give is the release group.

I hardly think naming a release group qualifies us as a warez site. Unless you're arguing semantics.

Spirit of the law, rules as intended, common knowledge, call it what you will...

-Tempest out.-

Lily · Sep 24, 2004

Hehe; I already feeling like an idiot for jumping in at this point, but what the heck, right?

It's not really semantics if you think about it. GBAtemp reports news of ROM releases, not GBA releases. For example, GBAtemp would be posting this:

2004/09/24: Kingdom Hearts: CoM Ship date!
2004/09/26: Kingdom Hearts: CoM Store Date!

Instead, we see:

2011 - Kingdom Hearts: CoM (U)

Absolutely no reference to the store date, or anything along the 'legal' channel. I think the release list would be much different if it went by actual store release dates, rather than by who dumped the rom and when.

Keep in mind I'm not trying to start an argument..just pointing out that it's really not semantics. Either way, I couldn't give a fart in high wind - I'm perfectly fine with the way things are, and see no reason for GBAtemp to become 'just another warez release news' site.

Dragonlord · Sep 24, 2004

like tempest said, we only have the releases. something that you can find with google too. we discuss here about the games behind those releases and not how you get it or even provide it. there's nothing wrong with that.

furakon · Sep 24, 2004

QUOTE(djnaff @ Sep 24 2004 said:
The site post's news about gba roms not gba gba games that are just out.

roms = warez
so yes its a werez site

I'm really trying to understand your line of thought, but I really can't...

Tell me this: sometimes we read about murder in several news sites and so forth... are they commiting some kind of crime?

djnaff · Sep 24, 2004

I not saying there's anything wrong with the site talking about roms and rom emulation that's why I come here
This topic started coz people like me were thinking the site was losing its direction a bit with pc demos being posted in the news.

as for the site not talking about warez 90% of the topics do in some shape or form talk about roms

there's two mod's here that have said that gbatemp has nothing to do with warez in this topic alone and this scares me as they have to power to change things

I thought the main purpose of the site was to discuses the gba roms and it's emulation (maybe I am wrong)

furakon · Sep 24, 2004

Maybe it was the point in the begining, but i was evolved and that's a good thing in my p.o.v.

I really don't see the problem here, if don't like what you read where or have somekind of problem with it just don't visit the forum...

knl · Sep 24, 2004

pfft... gbatemp, pc warez? please. gbatemp is not gonna be a warez index, and not PCDemostemp either. Jumpman is just telling pc demos for those people that are too lazy to scavenge ign or Gamespot... that's the first purpose of it. And it's the only, actually. Warez sites... you can easily search google for them, and 99% percent of warez sites have porn. 0,1% got no porn, and no broken links, and the other 0,9% are hacked. you think gbatemp's admin would take the risk of making a warez site and possibly get arrested and the site taken down? I mean, GBAtemp is WAY more famous than some warez sites. It's easily spottable. I might be wrong on everything i said, but then again, it's just my 2 cents.

djnaff · Sep 24, 2004

Do people not read the posts or was I not making my self clear
I didn't mention anything about it becoming pc warez site
gba roms = warez so its all ready a warez site
just coz you cant download them here
you are still talking about illegal backups

Inu268 · Sep 24, 2004

it is not illegal to talk about illegal stuff you know.....talking about warez(gba roms in this case) doesnt make we a warez site,warez sites are the ones that distribute warez,we are not doing that,so we are not a warez site.....just a site that talks about warez

Puck The Joker · Sep 24, 2004

djnaff: If you want to talk semantics, lets talk semantics. You claim that GBAtemp is a warez site because

QUOTE said:
you are still talking about illegal backups

. For a minute, lets pretend that the fact that you talk about illegal stuff on a site makes it a warez site. Since you are over in Europe, you might not have heard of a show called The Screen Savers. On this show, they discuss illegal stuff all the time. They show you how to "backup" your DVDs, they show you how to mod your XBOX to allow you to put Evox on it and copy XBOX games from your PC to your XBOX via FTP. They've also shown how to spy on other peoples' computers as well as programs that allow you to infiltrate their system. All of these topics could be considered illegal, and by your logic, make their show and website a warez website. Oh, but wait, they aren't a warez show, nor a warez site. If they were, their show wouldn't be nationally televised and the FCC, MPAA, RIAA, as well as many other groups would be all over their asses. Just simply discussing warez doesn't make a site itself a warez site. You can keep arguing semantics until you are blue in the face, but you are not going to get anywhere because simply, you are wrong. Maybe back when you joined, and yes I was around then, this site could be considered a warez site, but not anymore. Like others have already said, if you don't like the way the site is turning, go away. Go play on some other forum where they discuss what you like and only what you like.

gdeliana · Sep 24, 2004

I really don't like people getting these strange ideas in their minds.
YOU KNOW WHAT, VIVA GBATEMP

This forum is one of my favourite forums, it's been about a year since i frequent this community (yes i don't have posted so much but i like reading other people ideas and opinions) , and blaming the moderators for such stupidity is a shame for you kiczek. You must know this, they don't owe you nothing, if you are bored with your life go visit a psychotherapist. I totally respect them because they are spending their time te keep this forum to life, and to bring you news. You are not paying to enter here, and the roms are for free too(in the IRC channel for sure), WTF do you want more. Tell me kiczek, how much of your time have you spent on this forum?

If you don't like it just don't enter these forums, but blaming others for a work which is done for free is unacceptable.

I wish to this community a long life, better times will come with the launch of the DS. Keep up the good work guys

djnaff · Sep 24, 2004

must just be me then

just seems strange that a site that has nothing to do with warez posts the latest gbaroms downloads with nfo's
In my opinon thats a scene relese site and that has a lot to do with warez

I never said talking about roms was illegal and have never said its wrong

You may think this site is just a gba forum but to others it always been alot more and it would be sad to see it go in the wrong direction

In your opinon yes I may be wrong but what ever happend to free speech

free.speechless · Sep 24, 2004

QUOTE(djnaff @ Sep 24 2004 said:
must just be me then

just seems strange that a site that has nothing to do with warez posts the latest gbaroms downloads with nfo's
In my opinon thats a scene relese site and that has a lot to do with warez

I never said talking about roms was illegal and have never said its wrong

You may think this site is just a gba forum but to others it always been alot more and it would be sad to see it go in the wrong direction

In your opinon yes I may be wrong but what ever happend to free speech
Mr. Djnaff is correct no matter how much you want to waffle and say this site doesnt cater to warez. LOOK AT THE PORTAL PAGE LAMERS, I SEE WAREZ GROUP RELEASES AND NFO'S. Doesn't matter one iota that you can't actually download the warez here, just by the discussing of the warez, you are warez. Now you can say, no we arent...on TV, and other sites they discuss warez and they arent. Bullshit!! Quit Fooling yourself matey. Not all warez sites are illegal, those that merely discuss the stuff wont be shut down, but it still does NOT change the fact that they are INFACT warez sites.... so before you get all pissy and prissy about it, look in the mirror, look at the portal entry page, then stfu and look at the WAREZzz!!!

This message has been brought to you by the UNBAN SPEECHLESS movement.
djnaff @ last part of his quoteIn your opinon yes I may be wrong but what ever happend to free speech?

yes, free speech..less ... thx

Dragonlord · Sep 24, 2004

i donno but the definition of a 'Warez' site is one spreading pirated software...

do you see here anything spreadin illegal stuff? i see nothing. just a couple of release news... similar like 'game xyz is released'. unless this site would provide them this is not warez.

also on a warez site you only get those files... but here this is a forum, discussion about more than just some roms. the discussions are about the games themselves and much more. i've no trouble looking in the mirror because i see a legal site here not a warez site.

free.speechless · Sep 24, 2004

a warez site spread either the releases, or info (nfo's) about the releases u wingnut

so if gbatemp.net isnt warez...then i assume

www.nforce.nl
www.vcdquality.com
www.izonews.com

by the simple addition of the view nfo, warez is now on the portal page...

Zarcon · Sep 24, 2004

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8...%3A+warez&meta=
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=warez
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?...?term=warez&r=f

According to all those definitions, GBAtemp and the sites you listed are not warez sites.

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