FYI everyone the next ds with higher res graphics and motion tech is coming probably late 2010 or early 2011, when that happens say goodbye to much else coming to the ds. Also say goodbye to flashcards, its actually making me question whether or not buying the supercard dstwo will be a huge waste of money.
nope either late 2011 or early 2012 because the dsi xl will see an american and europeon release this yearStealth Fox said:
Yes, the DS's userbase is almost all the three consoles combined, but it's still selling better than the other systems. I agree that there isn't much needed, all I want:Stealth Fox said:
-A better D-pad
-Dual Screens (I like it)
-Touch Screen
-Gamecube games or the same power of the gamecube (Well, they said it will have high definition graphics, can I dream?
-Virtual console with GB/GBC/GBA games
-Slot for DS cartridges.
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-Improved Multiplayer without friend codes
Hisiru said:
Thats down to the software not the console.... Mario Kart does not need friends codes to play online, so its possible even with the current kit....
Unless the next gen ds can be pirated... not sure how into it I will be. I need free games. It better have a ds slot because thats the only way I see potential hacks and piracy.
Dwight said:
Well somewhat, we do encourage pirating we kind of appraise the function of the flashcards. Seriously stop complaining, imagine someone who doesn't have a DS and can't play most of the games that he/she wants to pirate off of them.
funem said:
I am not saying the multiplayer is bad because of the console, I am just saying that I want something better on the next DS (something like live or PSN).
Don't count on them removing Friend Codes. Nintendo has an obligation to protect its main consumer base (kids) from the nasty pedophiles out there.
To be honest, if Nintendo is planning to release its next handheld, I'd rather its changes be something that influences gameplay [like the touchscreen did] than a mere upgrade to graphics, high-res or otherwise. In my eyes, an upgrade to graphics doesn't equate to an actual console upgrade. While I do have a profound appreciation for aesthetics, I'd much prefer revolutionary, ingenious gameplay systems to looking at pretty things.
As to motion control, do I have the wrong understanding of it, or is it something like what the Wii has? If so, wouldn't that be counter-intuitive for a handheld? One of the main points of handhelds is their portability; it's the primary reason why I've always chosen handhelds over consoles like the Wii or XBox. Imagine waving your arms in public: not only does it look plain foolish, you might hit someone.
As to the line-up of games this year, I do have eight on my list, and that's just for January to March. Granted, most of them are RPGs, but they're the genre I enjoy. As such, I don't see myself selling off my DS anytime soon.
As to motion control, do I have the wrong understanding of it, or is it something like what the Wii has? If so, wouldn't that be counter-intuitive for a handheld? One of the main points of handhelds is their portability; it's the primary reason why I've always chosen handhelds over consoles like the Wii or XBox. Imagine waving your arms in public: not only does it look plain foolish, you might hit someone.
As to the line-up of games this year, I do have eight on my list, and that's just for January to March. Granted, most of them are RPGs, but they're the genre I enjoy. As such, I don't see myself selling off my DS anytime soon.
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DeMoN said:
Ironicly the next biggest chunk of their user base probably is pedophiles...
Anyway I hope they come up with some support for some sort of gba/gbc/gb virtual console
Well, Wario Ware Twisted (gba), Iphone and Zune HD have motion controls and it works pretty well.steirina said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHm0-0-h2MA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omkl-wERyww
I really loved Wario Ware Twisted
And motion controls can be a lot of things but I doubt it's something like what we have on the Wii. Iwata was probably talking about something like the motion controls on the iphone.
steirina said:
This. After all, look how well Nintendo did with it. They took TWO major hit-or-miss chances, and became the best for Consoles AND Handhelds(both in terms of gameplay and sales).
Thats very true. People without the devices are still buying..Canonbeat234 said:
Sales of animal crossing wild world and Mario games (and recent ads) prove that. DS will whip up another batch of good tittles, theres already alot that I'm backed up on.
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Extremely debatable. I cannot STAND playing videogames on the Wii. I get enough exercise outside of gaming; there's a reason why it's a recreational activity and not a sport.steirina said:To be honest, if Nintendo is planning to release its next handheld, I'd rather its changes be something that influences gameplay [like the touchscreen did] than a mere upgrade to graphics, high-res or otherwise. In my eyes, an upgrade to graphics doesn't equate to an actual console upgrade. While I do have a profound appreciation for aesthetics, I'd much prefer revolutionary, ingenious gameplay systems to looking at pretty things.
As to motion control, do I have the wrong understanding of it, or is it something like what the Wii has? If so, wouldn't that be counter-intuitive for a handheld? One of the main points of handhelds is their portability; it's the primary reason why I've always chosen handhelds over consoles like the Wii or XBox. Imagine waving your arms in public: not only does it look plain foolish, you might hit someone.
As to the line-up of games this year, I do have eight on my list, and that's just for January to March. Granted, most of them are RPGs, but they're the genre I enjoy. As such, I don't see myself selling off my DS anytime soon.
So you're saying that an upgrade in graphical potential does not constitute upgrading? Well, then I guess we should have stuck to the Atari.Just remember. There's a reason why graphics are improved. In my opinion, it is not up to the console to provide innovative gameplay. That is down to the developers.
The Wii was made with "innovation" behind it, but the only people who have so far really been able to harness that innovation has been Nintendo (from what I've heard most of the 3rd party Wii games are terrible. This could be untrue, as I don't own a Wii myself, although I do follow a lot of news about it.) Most (if not all) of the time new consoles are instituted to upgrade graphics, or at least performance.
New DS Motion Control - Destructoid D-Toid confirmed that the new DS wil have motion control. I agree with Jim Sterling, the writer of the article, in that "The prospect of a new DS is exciting, although I hope the motion control isn't over-the-top. It's bad enough expecting us to blow into a microphone while on the bus -- waving our arms around in public is just asking for trouble." I really am a little bit peeved by this; the whole idea of a handheld is that it's easy to play in a small amount of space, ie. bus, plane, train, park, strip club. I really hope that most games choose not to harness it, although looking at the way most games have 'embraced' the DS's microphone that's a bit too much to hope for.
QUOTE(shinkukage09 @ Jan 7 2010, 03:05 PM) became the best for Consoles AND Handhelds(both in terms of gameplay and sales).
Private|Parts said:So you're saying that an upgrade in graphical potential does not constitute upgrading? Well, then I guess we should have stuck to the Atari.steirina said:Just remember. There's a reason why graphics are improved. In my opinion, it is not up to the console to provide innovative gameplay. That is down to the developers.
The Wii was made with "innovation" behind it, but the only people who have so far really been able to harness that innovation has been Nintendo (from what I've heard most of the 3rd party Wii games are terrible. This could be untrue, as I don't own a Wii myself, although I do follow a lot of news about it.) Most (if not all) of the time new consoles are instituted to upgrade graphics, or at least performance.
New DS Motion Control - Destructoid D-Toid confirmed that the new DS wil have motion control. I agree with Jim Sterling, the writer of the article, in that "The prospect of a new DS is exciting, although I hope the motion control isn't over-the-top. It's bad enough expecting us to blow into a microphone while on the bus -- waving our arms around in public is just asking for trouble." I really am a little bit peeved by this; the whole idea of a handheld is that it's easy to play in a small amount of space, ie. bus, plane, train, park, strip club. I really hope that most games choose not to harness it, although looking at the way most games have 'embraced' the DS's microphone that's a bit too much to hope for.
I never said that graphics should be left alone to fester and rot. I'm simply saying that an upgrade in graphics isn't sufficient justification to deem a console as an entirely separate generation [as the GBA to the DS]. I love looking at beautiful things, really I do, but if the only thing they're going to upgrade is the graphics, it's just not enough of a change for me.
And when I mentioned innovative gameplay, I was referring to hardware and how it can influence the way games are played. While I agree that it's on the shoulders of the developers to provide innovative gameplay, if they have more hardware to work with, the more avenues they can explore.
As for the Wii, I can't really comment on that. I don't own one, nor do I plan on buying one. The idea of waving my arm to say, swing a sword, just never appealed to me. Although that's a bias of mine; I've always preferred quiet pastimes [which is mainly why I've always gone for handhelds, as I stated].
And I suppose that article nixes my point about graphics being the only change to the DS's successor. I'm just wondering how they'll incorporate motion control on a handheld. I can see it working for games like the ones on the iPhone, as Hisiru pointed out. If it's somewhat to that extent, I can see how it can still work. But if it's to the degree that the Wii does it, I'll honestly admit that I probably won't pick up any games that require the excessive movement of one's limbs.
EDIT: Pfft, scratch the excessive movement of one's limbs and the possibility of hitting other people: if it's anything like what I've heard of the Wii and its wayward remotes, what if you end up accidentally tossing your DS across the room? Worse yet, out the window? I live eight stories up. >>;
RPG maker is coming to the DS in March if you want a good DS game other than GS or Pokemon HG/SS
Will we even get Golden Sun in English this year seeing that the Japanese version isn't even dated? Can't say I'm fussed seeing that I never enjoyed the series but I hope it gets to you guys sooner rather than later.Kurono. said:
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steirina said:
Yep, I think we're mostly in agreement. I didn't purchase a Wii for the same reason; I game to relax, and I can't relax when I'm standing up flailing my arms.
So long as the DS2 has a significant graphical update I see no reason why they can't release a new one. The motion control in games for the iPhone still annoys me; I don't want to shake my iPhone when I'm playing Tap Tap Revenge. I want to hit the notes.
And yeah, exactly the kind of stuff I'm worried about. Imagine trying to... Hit a switch in Zelda by moving your DS forcefully forward, and accidently throwing it off the edge of the train platform.
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