1512 - Classic NES Series: Legend of Zelda (U)

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Whenever the problems come up with these nes roms everyone always starts screaming about them being ports and nes games that can be played on the gba other ways or on emus, or whatever. But I would just like to see them working more as a proof of concept than anything else. Even if I never really find out how it was made to work, I still always find it interesting to see that someone was able to get it to work. I think that is the best part about all of this stuff. I might be one of the few guys that silently cheers sometimes when there is a new copy protection, it keeps things fresh. It gets people thinking and working on ways to overcome it and to prove that it is possible to do so and get it working, etc...

1. They work fine on some carts. Not sure what the difference could be that they would work on some and not on others. The kind of chip maybe? Is it a speed issue like the problems first apparent when the carts came out? Save type, method of save? I guess there really isn't that much different between the carts hardware wise if you got down to it.
2. Do they work if they are on the cart by themselves? If that is the case it must be the boot software or something.
3. Some emus have problems too.
4. Wonder if it may be in part due to the fact that the image is being trimmed. If I remember correctly the chip they use is actually either an 8 or maybe a 32 but the image of the rom is duplicated on there a couple of times to fill the cart. Maybe when it starts it looks for the duplicates.

I don't know, just guessing random things.
 

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OMG!!!! this is a NES game.... stop the presses everyone. We shouldn't buy the GBA version of this game, we need to all go buy the NES version (and the NES since most people don't have one) and spend hours blowing the cart to get it to work. And we can't play it in the car, because god knows that not everyone is lucky enough to have a TV and a NES in their car.

look, the GBA is reliable, a lot of people have one. Of course new gamers that never played these classic games or owned a NES (god bless their souls) want to enjoy a classic like this, so it makes since to buy the GBA version. I'm sorry that diehard classic people complain about porting the old school games, but it's a smart strategy because people will buy the ports so they can experience that part of gaming history, and Nintendo will make money because these are "rehashed" games. It's a win-win situation, and i don't see the point in complaining about it.

I'm not that big into NES emulation either. I was 2 years ago, but I don't know what features are on any of the emulators nowadays. Maybe I'll look since I have nothing better to do with my life.
 

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http://gba.ouroad.org/misc_download/108635...GBA_TNG_1_4.zip

after run the game,it will make *.info,used texteditor open *.info,change 10 to 30,then try again.
dreamGBA show u the Zelda.

1086356514_zelda.JPG
 

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Works with my TT Flash in full speed when fixed to 32mbit
To get 32 mbit:

Use an editor and copy the first 8mbit x 4 = 32 mbit

Or use this in Dos prompt:, your drive's rot with Trm release:
C:>copy /b trm-nclz.gba + trm-nclz.gba + trm-nclz.gba + trm-nclz.gba trm-32.gba

And savefix if you need to..
 

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OMG!!!! this is a NES game.... stop the presses everyone. We shouldn't buy the GBA version of this game, we need to all go buy the NES version (and the NES since most people don't have one) and spend hours blowing the cart to get it to work. And we can't play it in the car, because god knows that not everyone is lucky enough to have a TV and a NES in their car.

look, the GBA is reliable, a lot of people have one. Of course new gamers that never played these classic games or owned a NES (god bless their souls) want to enjoy a classic like this, so it makes since to buy the GBA version. I'm sorry that diehard classic people complain about porting the old school games, but it's a smart strategy because people will buy the ports so they can experience that part of gaming history, and Nintendo will make money because these are "rehashed" games. It's a win-win situation, and i don't see the point in complaining about it.

I'm not that big into NES emulation either. I was 2 years ago, but I don't know what features are on any of the emulators nowadays. Maybe I'll look since I have nothing better to do with my life.
Yes, but I don't think that's what they're trying to say. They don't mean: Don't get the GBA version when you can play it on your NES Emulator on your computer, They're saying if you don't own a flash cart to play on your GBA why download the game and waste your time trying to figure it out when you can get a NES emulator and it would work just the same.

I hope that made any sense at all and if it didn't I will forever feel guilty and sad and hate myself because I made this evil post that makes no sense at all.
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hmm.... what would I do if I ran a fortune 500 company whose purpose was to generate revenue and protect my intellectual properties?

it's funny that it's ok for the movie industry to keep pumping out "special", "expanded", and "director's cut" editions of the same movies over and over on an almost yearly basis and no one seems to complain, but when the game companies start to do it, all of the sudden they're "whoring themselves out"?!?
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let's try and put it into perspective.
what is the "normal" shelf life of a game that is released these days? 4 months? 6 months? 2 (or possibly 3) years for a best seller like GTA? given that there has been a huge resurgence in classic gaming, it stands to reason that the companies that originally created the industry should be able to continue to make money on their intellectual properties given that that there is a demand for such things. is this truly any different than the "greatest hits" series that the gamecube, playstation 2, ps one and xbox owners have been enjoying?

fact no. 1: the companies aren't as blind or stupid as you think they are. if you believe for one moment that nintendo, sony or microsoft doesn't know about each and every little forum, website, ftpsite, flash cart, copy device, etc that are out there and keep popping up, you are dead wrong. I've witnessed the depths at which they probe this stuff, and it's quite impressive. be thankful that we have a place like gba temp to freely communicate and share views on legally grey issues like the ones discussed here.

fact no. 2: the resurgence of classic gaming is attracting a huge group of people (both young and old) who have never used computer, console or handheld to purchase said devices. here's a question, "how many people that frequent these boards were over the age of 10 when the nintendo entertainment system was originally released in 1983"? all of the classic titles being released are done so to cater to two groups; a) those that remember spending a good portion of their youth in the arcades and in front of the televisions playing the original consoles and b) those who weren't around for the 1st generation, but grew up in this electronic era.

fact no. 3: no matter what you do, someone will find a problem with it. plain and simple we are a very judgemental society.
the life cycle of products:
- it doesn't exist, so we complain until something comes out to serve our needs
- the product is created. we complain that it doesn't do enough and that enhancements should be made.
- a new version is released. on one hand you have a group screaming it still doesn't do enough and warrants further changes and on the other hand, you have a group screaming that they liked the old version better.

this goes on and on until either the company goes out of business and the idea (and the product) dies or the company re-invents itself down the road only to hear new complaints (it's a viscous cycle
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in closing:
"my god, they're just games". take a deep breath, and go outside and enjoy the "real" world every once in awhile.
 

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Who cares about emulators? I want it to work on my flash cart. I'd just play the japanese one, but I can't read what they're saying. I'd use pocketnes, but the text gets all crammed up and is unreadable
 

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"how many people that frequent these boards were over the age of 10 when the nintendo entertainment system was originally released in 1983"?
For the record, the NES was released in 1985. The Famicom was released in 1983. :-p
Proof of this can be found in the fact that there was the video game crash of 1984 (via Atari and such).
Nintendo single-handedly saved the industry.
 

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