Hacking New Super Mario Bros. Wii

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mopar4u said:
PainToad said:
kongsnutz said:
PainToad said:
kongsnutz said:
You need IOS53 , a new one.
I'm on 4.0, it booted fine, no IOS installs or updates....

Yeh i know, that was in response to a guy that updated from 3.2 to 4.1 using waninkoko's updater.

That updater doesnt get some IOS files IOS53 is one of those.

4.0 has IOS53 also, this is why it works.
Uhhh another reason his updates are fail.

I updated IOS53 using DOP-IOS today, shouldn't I at least be able to load this game? I get the green screen and a re-boot.

Do you have a modchip?
 

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mopar4u said:
PainToad said:
kongsnutz said:
PainToad said:
kongsnutz said:
You need IOS53 , a new one.
I'm on 4.0, it booted fine, no IOS installs or updates....

Yeh i know, that was in response to a guy that updated from 3.2 to 4.1 using waninkoko's updater.

That updater doesnt get some IOS files IOS53 is one of those.

4.0 has IOS53 also, this is why it works.
Uhhh another reason his updates are fail.

I updated IOS53 using DOP-IOS today, shouldn't I at least be able to load this game? I get the green screen and a re-boot.


Not without a mod-chip, softmods will not work at all (green screen)
 

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pepxl said:
acesniper said:
^^ USB Loader GX

why thats answers everything, im asking if anyone with the retail has tried to boot the game using a USB Loader that can load disks, yes GX can, uLoader can load disks but has anyone tried yet

read kongnutz's post above yours. he's said twice yes, it works.
 

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I updated IOS53 using DOP-IOS today, shouldn't I at least be able to load this game? I get the green screen and a re-boot.
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Do you have a modchip?
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Nope, complete softmod. I thought some softmodders were getting to play for a short time.
 

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kongsnutz said:
Yes it works using ANY loader from disc, using a RETAIL copy.

so it doesnt seem to be check where its launched from or what cIOS/IOS was used to launch it then?, correct me if im wrong
 

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jakejm79 said:
knognutz, is there anyway for you to do a md5 for the whole retail disc, since you have one of those LG drives, I'm not sure how it reads the data from the Wii disc, and then compare that to the md5 of the 1:1 iso you made. Also have you tried some DVD cloning software to do a direct disc to disc copy vs. ripping the original and then burning it.


When you dump using a LG drive, the drive doesn't just read the discs like normal on computers it's forced into ripping it using rawdump software, no other software can make it read the disc (like clone dvd/cd) so i can only read the MD5 of the ISO after it's been made.

Which i did in the previous thread before it died.

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QUOTE(kongsnutz @ Nov 9 2009, 02:44 AM) Yes it works using ANY loader from disc, using a RETAIL copy.

so it doesnt seem to be check where its launched from or what cIOS/IOS was used to launch it then?, correct me if im wrong

Yes that seems so.
 

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kongsnutz said:
jakejm79 said:
knognutz, is there anyway for you to do a md5 for the whole retail disc, since you have one of those LG drives, I'm not sure how it reads the data from the Wii disc, and then compare that to the md5 of the 1:1 iso you made. Also have you tried some DVD cloning software to do a direct disc to disc copy vs. ripping the original and then burning it.


When you dump using a LG drive, the drive doesn't just read the discs like normal on computers it's forced into ripping it using rawdump software, no other software can make it read the disc (like clone dvd/cd) so i can only read the MD5 of the ISO after it's been made.

Which i did in the previous thread before it died.

Thanks, that's what i was afraid the answer would be.
Since the retail game will run from a cIOS it looks like it almost positively anti piracy within the game and not checks against it launching from a cIOS, tho I wonder if there is some IOS reloading going on at boot, which even tho the game attempts to be launched with a cIOS it actually ends up running on IOS53.
 

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Just had a thought, may or may not have been brought up before. Do any of the WADS or other "normal" files files on your disc (kongsnutz) look different (size, or content (if you can read that) than your other games?
 

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jakejm79 said:
knognutz, is there anyway for you to do a md5 for the whole retail disc, since you have one of those LG drives, I'm not sure how it reads the data from the Wii disc, and then compare that to the md5 of the 1:1 iso you made. Also have you tried some DVD cloning software to do a direct disc to disc copy vs. ripping the original and then burning it.
I would think that a 1:1 copy would have anything that the original copy would have, including the MD5. Nintendo is still making the same kinds of DVD's.
 

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True, just trying to eliminate things, and it had been mentioned before that it is possible for data to be on locations on original discs that are outside the parameters of the burned copies.
 

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dlf said:
Just had a thought, may or may not have been brought up before. Do any of the WADS or other "normal" files files on your disc (kongsnutz) look different (size, or content (if you can read that) than your other games?


Nah there's nothing that stands out.

My thoughts:

There is nothing us small time modders can do.
The game obviously has some sort of check in the running processes of the games engine.

We have to wait till one of the big guys (some from here) can get a hold of the full ISO and then see what happens.

If anyone is interested in the update partition of the 1:1 copy. PM ME
 

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acesniper said:
jakejm79 said:
knognutz, is there anyway for you to do a md5 for the whole retail disc, since you have one of those LG drives, I'm not sure how it reads the data from the Wii disc, and then compare that to the md5 of the 1:1 iso you made. Also have you tried some DVD cloning software to do a direct disc to disc copy vs. ripping the original and then burning it.
I would think that a 1:1 copy would have anything that the original copy would have, including the MD5. Nintendo is still making the same kinds of DVD's.
Fail, maybe you should read what md5 is, it won't be 'on the disc'.
 

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No idea what this means.......

MD5 is a data integrity validation mechanism, just like SFV and is used in similar ways.

MD5 data is most commonly distributed as separate .md5 files alongside the main file download files and can be used to check whether the download was complete and whether the data remained uncorrupted during the download process.

MD5 data is created by a algorithm that examines the original file and creates a short(-ish) checksum data string out of the original file's characteristics. When the file and the .md5 file are downloaded, the .md5 file can be used with a specific MD5 file checker application to check whether the downloaded file is identical to the original file. If not, it typically means that the download is not complete or that the downloaded file was corrupted during the data transfer.
 

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I've been curious if this game could run if you had a cioscorp install, but launched it with Gecko OS.

I'm not sure why I think such a thing is possible, but maybe someone should give it a try. Maybe it would bypass some of the checks.
 

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mopar4u said:
lecture.gif
No idea what this means.......

MD5 is a data integrity validation mechanism, just like SFV and is used in similar ways.

MD5 data is most commonly distributed as separate .md5 files alongside the main file download files and can be used to check whether the download was complete and whether the data remained uncorrupted during the download process.

MD5 data is created by a algorithm that examines the original file and creates a short(-ish) checksum data string out of the original file's characteristics. When the file and the .md5 file are downloaded, the .md5 file can be used with a specific MD5 file checker application to check whether the downloaded file is identical to the original file. If not, it typically means that the download is not complete or that the downloaded file was corrupted during the data transfer.
Basically the md5 of (NOT in) a copy should match the md5 of the original, other wise it's corrupt.
 

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I'm aware of what a md5 is, its normally a 32 digit hex and 2 identical files will share the same hash. I know that a dvd will not have a md5 since it isn't a file, my question was more to do with the way the LG drives read the wii disc (not having one I don't know) and seeing if it reads just raw data or if can read the file structure, in theory if it could read the file structure then you could possibly get the md5 for all the files on the original disc (without ripping/extracting them) and compare them to the files extracted from a ripped 1:1 iso and see if any files were different. But since the LG drive only dumps the raw data then it doesn't matter.
 

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kongsnutz said:
dlf said:
Just had a thought, may or may not have been brought up before. Do any of the WADS or other "normal" files files on your disc (kongsnutz) look different (size, or content (if you can read that) than your other games?


Nah there's nothing that stands out.

My thoughts:

There is nothing us small time modders can do.
The game obviously has some sort of check in the running processes of the games engine.

We have to wait till one of the big guys (some from here) can get a hold of the full ISO and then see what happens.

If anyone is interested in the update partition of the 1:1 copy. PM ME


QTF
 

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anyone notice that generic wii patcher doesnt find 002 error? clearly you will get the 002 if you load it with softchip, i haven't used gwp that much but it should find it
 

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