GBA emulator for the DS by Darkchen UPDATE

lrwr14 · Sep 17, 2009

wow thats really good. I might just get a iplayer for this, since i no longer ue my old ds.

jalaneme · Sep 17, 2009

Whizz said:
There will never be a GBA for NDS they said... you're a n00b they said....

Haha, pwned!

^^ what he said, good progress, shame they won't release it though, this video is there to tease people and throw them a carrot with a string attached to it XD

Maz7006 · Sep 17, 2009

luke_c said:
Is this DSi only? If not, i know what i'll be getting for my birthday

Its iPlayer only. SO yeah, i really think may just somehow have to try getting one of these, i could get a EZ Flash thing, but this comes flv, avi, and variopus video support, so yeah more value for your money.

BlueStar · Sep 17, 2009

Whizz said:
There will never be a GBA for NDS they said... you're a n00b they said....

Haha, pwned!

This is more of a GBA emulator for the iPlayer than an GBA emulator for the DS though really, isn't it.

Islay · Sep 17, 2009

hmm the iplayer is looking good at the mo, hows it affecting the DSi's already lame battry ?

DSGamer64 · Sep 17, 2009

mercluke said:
Another World said:

i hope this leads to other emus for the iplayer. i've put down my nds recently for my dingoo. i'd come back if emus started to get ported to the iplayer!

-another world

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/me hopes for snes

SnemulNDS runs alright on my M3i Zero

Jacobeian · Sep 17, 2009

impressive, but yes, technically it's more a GBA emulator for the iplayer hardware but who cares...

the next thing we need now is a public release of the devkit that was used to compile the VBA sourcecode for the iplayer hardware (I know it uses the same chip as the DSi, probably with a faster clock, plus a dedicated FPGA... but anyone know the official spec ?)) , so that anybody could port other CPU intensive emulators (MAME, PSX4All, etc..) ...

I'm also pretty sure the toolkit was given to him by someone who developped the firmware but I doubt it would be very legal to distribute it (like with xbox emulators that used the official SDK), unless it has been done on purpose by the iplayer team because they knew this was going to increase their sells massively

NakedFaerie · Sep 17, 2009

This is great but pity its for the iPlayer only.
Maybe they start on the iplayer then find a way to work in all carts.

As soon as the DSi mode is hacked then there will be more CPU power to be used and that will probably remove the need for the iplayer. Hopefully...

Jacobeian · Sep 17, 2009

NakedFaerie said:
This is great but pity its for the iPlayer only.
Maybe they start on the iplayer then find a way to work in all carts.

As soon as the DSi mode is hacked then there will be more CPU power to be used and that will probably remove the need for the iplayer. Hopefully...

well, it will only works on iPlayer because Iplayer has additional hardware that make it possible to run code, other carts does not have any CPU/FPGA inside so they can't do that, they just "load" roms or homebrew program on the DSi hardware, here itr is completely different, the program is using the iPlayer hardware ...

here are the spec of the chip inside the iPlayer: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tms320dm6441.pdf
as you can see, it includes the same processor (ARM9) as the DSi but can be clocked up to 200 Mhz (not sure about the real spec though)
the chip also include an additional DSP that can be used to run some code (more likely dedicated to sound processing and mixing) up to 400 Mhz !

last thing, it contains a FPGA but it's probably dedicated for video decoding and you won't be able to run your own code on it

not bad for that price I would say

Blue-K · Sep 17, 2009

Very nice work indeed...still wondering how he got his hands on the official SDK...

. If Normatt now makes the promised Loader for NDS games, I'm pretty much sold (yes, I still remember that he said this)...or would this whole thing be possible once the DSi is unlocked? Then I'll probably wait, or buy an Android Phone...

Anyways, nice work, Darkchen!

Matt140 · Sep 17, 2009

If we were to crack DSi Mode, would we be able to run GBA games on the DSi?

Jacobeian · Sep 17, 2009

QUOTE said:
If we were to crack DSi Mode, would we be able to run GBA games on the DSi?

I doubt it, the ARM CPUs on the DSi are still running too slow , 133+66Mhz in DSi mode, 66+33Mhz in DS compatibility mode...
sadly, I don't think it's enough for full-speed GBA emulation

that's why iplayer or similar cart with extra processing power (if other ones ever come out) would be a huge breakdown for handeld emulation (up to 32x, N64, PS1 maybe )

Satangel · Sep 17, 2009

Didn't see that coming! Now we can't say anymore that a slot1 flashcard never is gonna be able to emulate GBA roms

(of course it was possible with that hyper-thingy, but no one would have made that hyper-thingy anyway)

The Teej · Sep 17, 2009

Everybody saying "look at all the noobs who said GBA on DS would never happen, they're wrong now!!11", well, please just stop. Nobody would have ever predicted a cart coming out with extra power and RAM built in, and it -still- doesn't happen on a "vanilla" flash cart, so you're not really proving anything at all.

iwakura · Sep 17, 2009

jayx3m said:
Maybe darkchen is an iPlayer employee. That's why the emulator is so damn good. But either way, this will boost iplayer's sale.

This is what I considered as well I mean, he even managed to get the SDK, and it since there has always been a "plugin" folder in the iPlayer, it seems like the iPlayer was eventually made for this. (the plugin folder is where it is installed to, btw)

jalaneme said:

Whizz said:

There will never be a GBA for NDS they said... you're a n00b they said....

Haha, pwned!

^^ what he said, good progress, shame they won't release it though, this video is there to tease people and throw them a carrot with a string attached to it XD

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Oh, I'm sure he'll release it soon enough. It's excellent work so far, and looks 90% completed to me, if not more. Then again, I'm no programmer and maybe its a huge task to program the rest.

QUOTE(luke_c @ Sep 17 2009, 12:11 AM)

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Is this DSi only? If not, i know what i'll be getting for my birthday

nope, DS, DSlite, and DSi compatible

SuperGustafson9 · Sep 17, 2009

You Are Truly My Friend Darkchen, I Waited For A GBA Emulator And My Dream Has Finally Came True

I Have So Many Roms I Want To Play On My DS That I Dont Have As The Actual Cartridges!

Keep Up The Good Work

crook · Sep 17, 2009

Nobody has this player.

SuperGustafson9 · Sep 17, 2009

What Do You Mean Crook?

I Will Be Getting This Software The Day It Comes out

wolffangalchemist · Sep 17, 2009

that's all well and good but where is a ds rom loader, other wise this really isn't work the extra cash for a iplayer especially when more flash cart owners don't watch movies on the ds?
till then i'm happy playing gba on my wii or spending $20 on a 3 in 1 not $40 or $50 on a iplayer.

DSGamer64 · Sep 17, 2009

wolffangalchemist said:
that's all well and good but where is a ds rom loader, other wise this really isn't work the extra cash for a iplayer especially when more flash cart owners don't watch movies on the ds?
till then i'm happy playing gba on my wii or spending $20 on a 3 in 1 not $40 or $50 on a iplayer.

Considering how horribly unimpressed I was with the EZ Flash 3 in 1 and all the bullshit with NOR memory and whatnot, I am quite content with spending some money on the iPlayer and getting a reasonable sized memory card to watch some movies and play GBA games on, it won't hurt to carry around another cart just for that purpose either since they are tiny compared to GBA games.

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