Hacking ULTIMATE System Menu 4.0 Guide

InTheDeep · Jul 8, 2009

hi assassda
I seee u have just added this line --cIOS or vulnerable IOS36 back to the Online Prerequisites: Hmmmmm

I did the Online a few days ago now and unsuprisingly it failed at steps 6,7,8,10 . as it was then before 8th july update .
Only step 9 as it was then worked ?? as i had no vulnerable IOS because it said just bannerbomb install of bootmii, HBC , dvdx as Prerequisite .
9) Run the 4.0 Updater . Was the only step of online that worked .
Question
Does running the updater before installing a cIOS as your guide said to have any bad effect on the Wii or is all as good as before my 3.4E got the 4.0E update ??

Also after step 10 of the Offline Install I checked my IOS and it was IOS Ver4.0E IOS61 v19.26 is this because id updated to v4.0E ?
does it show if u install a cIOS or is the cIOS just installed over IOS and named as the IOS in the HBC ??

assassda said:
InTheDeep said:

Ultimatly id like to load games from a USB HDD soon as i get this done and can then order HDD ,
plus homebrew which i believe i can install as i have HBC BootMii and dvdx installed from bannerbomb

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all you have to do is install cios rev10 and put usb loader on your SD card. you can load homebrew from homebrew channel and install WADs

Is cIOS38_rev13-Installer the same as cIOS36_rev10-Installer
as i used the cIOS38_rev13-Installer instead of cIOS36_rev10-Installer ??

many thanks

InTheDeep

melodical · Jul 8, 2009

Hi assassda and the rest of you guys.

I've been through all 77 pages of this guide about 2 and a half times now and am trying to follow the offline guide without relying on conflicting information and am trying to clarify what i need to do next.

I'm trying to follow this guide for a friend who has a LEH (uk wii model pre-mid 2008) He was on 3.1 virgin firmware

I had a few sd cards that ive tried this with recently: both formatted as fat16:

1. a kingston card 2gb which would install bootmi and homebrew but would not boot to bootmi (googled this and this is common!)
2. a 128mb sandisk which would install bootmi and homebrew and also let me boot to bootmii and get to stage 5 on the offline guide but said not enough disk space when trying to backup the nand. Which i suppose is fair enough!

I have ordered a sandisk 2 gb card from playDOTcom which is said to work cool with bootmi, bannerbomb etc.

My friend has since upgarded his virgin wii firmware from 3.1E to 4.0E OFFICIALLY through nintendo via his wifi!

1. Can i still follow the offline guide as i have previously installed & removed bootmii from boot 2 and also removed the homebrew channel before he had upgraded to official 4.0. Does this now mean i have to follow online or offline guide?
2. Do custom iso's refer to unnoficial stuff like TL hacks and this hack or official nintendo updates also?.
3. How much space is required on a sd card to follow you guide bearing in mind that my sandisk 128mb card was not big enough.
4. Does the sd card need to be inserted to run boot mii (if on boot2) or does it physically install to boot2. (Same question Gecko backup launcher!!)

Thanks in advance people!

Props to GBAtemp!

nabster92 · Jul 8, 2009

InTheDeep said:
hi assassda
I seee u have just added this line --cIOS or vulnerable IOS36 back to the Online Prerequisites: Hmmmmm

I did the Online a few days ago now and unsuprisingly it failed at steps 6,7,8,10 . as it was then before 8th july update .
Only step 9 as it was then worked ?? as i had no vulnerable IOS because it said just bannerbomb install of bootmii, HBC , dvdx as Prerequisite .
9) Run the 4.0 Updater . Was the only step of online that worked .
Question
Does running the updater before installing a cIOS as your guide said to have any bad effect on the Wii or is all as good as before my 3.4E got the 4.0E update ??

Also after step 10 of the Offline Install I checked my IOS and it was IOS Ver4.0E IOS61 v19.26 is this because id updated to v4.0E ?
does it show if u install a cIOS or is the cIOS just installed over IOS and named as the IOS in the HBC ??

assassda said:

InTheDeep said:

Ultimatly id like to load games from a USB HDD soon as i get this done and can then order HDD ,
plus homebrew which i believe i can install as i have HBC BootMii and dvdx installed from bannerbomb
all you have to do is install cios rev10 and put usb loader on your SD card. you can load homebrew from homebrew channel and install WADs

Is cIOS38_rev13-Installer the same as cIOS36_rev10-Installer
as i used the cIOS38_rev13-Installer instead of cIOS36_rev10-Installer ??

many thanks

InTheDeep

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Didn't I tell you pretty much every option you could possibly do from where you were at before to get cIOS installed? Did you just ignore that and just continue with the online guide with whatever did work? Updating before installing cIOS shouldn't really do anything too bad to the Wii but it didn't help you get anything accomplished in getting some cIOS on it.

Anyways, rev13 is not exactly the same as rev10 but they will accomplish the same thing. They are just different revisions of Waninkoko's cIOS and would all just install over IOS249 regardless. Just use whichever you prefer. I use rev13a, I think rev13b has some issues with a lot of other loaders though. Rev10 is pretty stable but doesn't have usb support for anything other than the usb drive you use for the usb loader. The HBC will have nothing to do with what cIOS is installed and the IOS shown in that is just the one that the HBC is using to run itself from. If you have IOS249 at all then you have cIOS installed and can run whatever cIOS installer revision you want and it will overwrite whatever is there with that revision of it.

If you don't have cIOS on it yet though you still now need to do something to get the trucha bug back on your Wii if you want to install any of these cIOS and get a usb loader working. You could try using WiiPowers Trucha Bug Restorer and downgrade IOS15, install an IOS36 with the trucha bug to IOS249, restore IOS15, and then run that cIOS installer using IOS249. Or you can follow the offline guide...wait

"Also after step 10 of the Offline Install"

So you did up to that of the offline guide? If so you should be able to run your cIOS installer using IOS249 or the rev10 installer...and then you'd be set with everything and can just run your usb loader from the HBC

QUOTE(melodical @ Jul 7 2009, 09:03 PM)

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Hi assassda and the rest of you guys.

I've been through all 77 pages of this guide about 2 and a half times now and am trying to follow the offline guide without relying on conflicting information and am trying to clarify what i need to do next.

I'm trying to follow this guide for a friend who has a LEH (uk wii model pre-mid 2008) He was on 3.1 virgin firmware

I had a few sd cards that ive tried this with recently: both formatted as fat16:

1. a kingston card 2gb which would install bootmi and homebrew but would not boot to bootmi (googled this and this is common!)
2. a 128mb sandisk which would install bootmi and homebrew and also let me boot to bootmii and get to stage 5 on the offline guide but said not enough disk space when trying to backup the nand. Which i suppose is fair enough!

I have ordered a sandisk 2 gb card from playDOTcom which is said to work cool with bootmi, bannerbomb etc.

My friend has since upgarded his virgin wii firmware from 3.1E to 4.0E OFFICIALLY through nintendo via his wifi!

1. Can i still follow the offline guide as i have previously installed & removed bootmii from boot 2 and also removed the homebrew channel before he had upgraded to official 4.0. Does this now mean i have to follow online or offline guide?
Online guide won't work, offline guide should work as long as it's not an LU64+ type of Wii which it clearly doesn't seem to be since it can install bootmii to boot2.

2. Do custom iso's refer to unnoficial stuff like TL hacks and this hack or official nintendo updates also?.
cIOS is basically an official IOS that is modified with a dip module and installed to IOS249 which is not official. No official update will give you cIOS, if anything they would possibly get rid of them. Installing a cIOS is basically what will allow you to do anything else homebrew wise with the Wii like using usb loaders and playing backup games and installing wads and whatnot.

3. How much space is required on a sd card to follow you guide bearing in mind that my sandisk 128mb card was not big enough.
A NAND backup is a backup of the entire Wii's flash memory which is 512MB, but the actual file will most likely be slightly larger than that and take up about 540MB give or take a bit so at least a 1GB card is necessary for that. You may also be able to use that other 2GB card to back it up, but I'm not sure on that. I believe the backup feature will let you swap in an sd card when it prompts to do it.

4. Does the sd card need to be inserted to run boot mii (if on boot2) or does it physically install to boot2. (Same question Gecko backup launcher!!)
Yes the SD card needs to be inserted to run bootmii. The only thing installed on the Wii is in 2 blocks of flash memory on the boot2 sector which is really small and pretty much just enough to write something to forward to the sd card to read stuff off that. So basically none of bootmii is actually installed to your Wii, it's all written to your SD card. And Gecko backup launcher? Generally GeckoOS (if thats what you're talking about) is just used to run original games even if they are out of region and what not or to add cheats to an original game via ocarina to play brawl+ or balanced brawl (or actually just cheat). I think there may be some version that runs backups, but for backups you're better off using Neogamma R6

Thanks in advance people!

Props to GBAtemp!

InTheDeep · Jul 8, 2009

melodical said:
Hi assassda and the rest of you guys.

I've been through all 77 pages of this guide about 2 and a half times now and am trying to follow the offline guide without relying on conflicting information and am trying to clarify what i need to do next.

I'm trying to follow this guide for a friend who has a LEH (uk wii model pre-mid 2008) He was on 3.1 virgin firmware

I had a few sd cards that ive tried this with recently: both formatted as fat16:

1. a kingston card 2gb which would install bootmi and homebrew but would not boot to bootmi (googled this and this is common!)
2. a 128mb sandisk which would install bootmi and homebrew and also let me boot to bootmii and get to stage 5 on the offline guide but said not enough disk space when trying to backup the nand. Which i suppose is fair enough!

I have ordered a sandisk 2 gb card from playDOTcom which is said to work cool with bootmi, bannerbomb etc.

My friend has since upgarded his virgin wii firmware from 3.1E to 4.0E OFFICIALLY through nintendo via his wifi!

1. Can i still follow the offline guide as i have previously installed & removed bootmii from boot 2 and also removed the homebrew channel before he had upgraded to official 4.0. Does this now mean i have to follow online or offline guide?
2. Do custom iso's refer to unnoficial stuff like TL hacks and this hack or official nintendo updates also?.
3. How much space is required on a sd card to follow you guide bearing in mind that my sandisk 128mb card was not big enough.
4. Does the sd card need to be inserted to run boot mii (if on boot2) or does it physically install to boot2. (Same question Gecko backup launcher!!)

Thanks in advance people!

Props to GBAtemp!

Hi

You need at least a 1GB card especially if u want to back up your nand which is about 512MB or half a Gig , backing up your nand is highly recommended incase of bricking Wii.e u must back up nand save it to pc

IOS are Independant/Internal Operating System I prefer to call them and are used by different games as some games need to use say usb controllers . but im a noob myself so i think this is correct .
Some people prefer to call IOS or the Input Output System i believe

Heres a little taster of how it goes for installing sorry but this is all i did in the offline guide , then i did the online guide from step 6 .

Hope this helps

8) Load CMDVDX35.dol through the homebrew channel. Choose Downgrade IOS35. choose Up/Down & left/right on DPad( It might say network error, it might not.
just ignore it and choose Exit ) Nope didn't get network error
installed all 15 parts of installed OK
then went back to CMDVDX35.dol screen and then i choose Exit

9) Run WAD-Manager_v1.4.dol. Choose IOS35 and install IOS35-64-v1040.wad choose Up/Down & left/right on DPad then restart
installed all 15 parts of IOS35-64-v1040.wad OK
Press B button to go back then Press Home button to restart Wii OK

10) If you do not have cIOS installed yet Run WAD-Manager_v1.4 choose IOS35 choose Up/Down & left/right on DPad and install cios_fix.wad then restart
installed all 15 parts of cios_fix.wad OK
Press B button to go back then Press Home button to restart Wii OK
exited HomBrew Channel

InTheDeep

melodical · Jul 8, 2009

Thanks for that InTheDeep but i'm a bit worried about jumping steps as the is has official Nintendo 4.0 firmware installed and currently nothing else i.e homebrew,bootmii as i had previously removed them before update.

1. Can i just follow the offline guide from step 1-15? Or do i now HAVE TO use online guide (start to end)
2. Does this mean my wii is still a 'virgin'? or is it now slutty? or does that just refer to having installed and used custom ios in the past

3. Has anyone else on here hacked wii successfully with the offline guide after having original Nintendo firmware 4.0E installed?

Thanks again dude for all your answers!

melodical · Jul 8, 2009

Oops you guys are quick!

Thanks, Nabster & InTheDeep.

I have taken on both of your comments.

Your fast replies are most appreciated!

Props to both of you.

Thanks again!

nabster92 · Jul 8, 2009

melodical said:
Thanks for that InTheDeep but i'm a bit worried about jumping steps as the is has official Nintendo 4.0 firmware installed and currently nothing else i.e homebrew,bootmii as i had previously removed them before update.

1. Can i just follow the offline guide from step 1-15? Or do i now HAVE TO use online guide (start to end)
2. Does this mean my wii is still a 'virgin'? or is it now slutty? or does that just refer to having installed and used custom ios in the past

3. Has anyone else on here hacked wii successfully with the offline guide after having original Nintendo firmware 4.0E installed?

Thanks again dude for all your answers!

Read the bolded parts in my post above. You should be able to do the offline guide fine, and you CAN'T do the online guide.

Edit: And oh yea I didn't really answer the last part of your 4th question. If you want to run anything through the homebrew channel you will need the sd card with the applications you want to run on it in the apps folder. So if you want to run GeckoOS you need to have on your SD card (say the drive letter is E:\) E:\apps\GeckoOS\boot.dol or if you want to run Neogamma you would put a Neogamma folder with it's boot.dol in that folder in the apps folder.

If you want to run it without the SD card then you would need to install a WAD of that channel with wad manager which will install a channel on your system menu of it. Be sure the wad is not a forwarder though as a forwarder will just install a channel to your Wii that will look for the boot.dol in a specific folder and would still require the sd card as such.

melodical · Jul 8, 2009

Thanks again nabster92. I only noticed your replies whilst typing more questions!

I have read your comments and noted them. I now feel much more confident about doing this thanks to your answers.

Cheers!

InTheDeep · Jul 8, 2009

Hi nabster92
thanks for replying dude much appreciated

Didn't I tell you pretty much every option you could possibly do from where you were at before to get cIOS installed?
Yes nab absolutly for sure you did a few time at least "Massive shame .gif"
Did you just ignore that and just continue with the online guide .
Well i wouldnt say ignored dude u talk to much sense to just ignore it , but i was swayed because the cIOS prerequsist info was left off for days and i foolishly believed it was ok to do as the guide said "more shame .gif" and it seemed the easiest way to get the job done or atleast the simplest implementation for idiots lol , i was confused at the time doh
with whatever did work?
Yes i did only update to 4 worked"shame .gif"
Updating before installing cIOS shouldn't really do anything too bad to the Wii .
When u say shouldn't and to bad how u mean ?
but it didn't help you get anything accomplished in getting some cIOS on it.
No No it didn't again you are correct"more shame .gifs "

Anyways, rev13 is not exactly the same as rev10 but they will accomplish the same thing. They are just different revisions of Waninkoko's cIOS and would all just install over IOS249 regardless. Just use whichever you prefer. I use rev13a, I think rev13b has some issues with a lot of other loaders though. Rev10 is pretty stable but doesn't have usb support for anything other than the usb drive you use for the usb loader.
So the rev13 is for usb hdd and games that use usb controlles aswell ok kool so im all good for usb HDD

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The HBC will have nothing to do with what cIOS is installed and the IOS shown in that is just the one that the HBC is using to run itself from.
Ok makes sense , is there any way to find out which cIOS u are using or do u just have to remember which 1 u installed last .
If you have IOS249 at all then you have cIOS installed and can run whatever cIOS installer revision you want and it will overwrite whatever is there with that revision of it.
In the end i had to do what u said i had to do lol as u new i.e offline then online so i assume i must have a IOS249 and a cIOS installed .

If you don't have cIOS on it yet though you still now need to do something to get the trucha bug back on your Wii if you want to install any of these cIOS and get a usb loader working. You could try using WiiPowers Trucha Bug Restorer and downgrade IOS15, install an IOS36 with the trucha bug to IOS249, restore IOS15, and then run that cIOS installer using IOS249. Or you can follow the offline guide...wait

"Also after step 10 of the Offline Install"

So you did up to that of the offline guide?
I tried the Online first only getting the 4 update to work "plenty big shame .gif" As the Online failed i did as you had told me to do plenty of times in plain english "dumbass .gif"
i.e. first the Offline steps 8 to 10 & then Online steps 6 to 10 as it was then . all was perfect dude

top man nab , as u no dought new .
If so you should be able to run your cIOS installer using IOS249 or the rev10 installer...and then you'd be set with everything and can just run your usb loader from the HBC
I did as u said in the end so i should be all good thanks dude u a star .

Many Thanks indeed Nabster you're a real gent and good egg to boot old boy lol

full respects to u and ur ilk

InTheDeep

cheers assassda for the guide and especially all the packages u put together and repects to the scene makers and people involved in helping us/me get this far

u know who u are
*edited excess txt and tags left*

nabster92 · Jul 8, 2009

As long as it all works in the end, it's all good. I just thought your question was something along the lines of saying you didn't already get things up and running yet.

As for knowing what cIOS you're using it shouldn't really be that hard to remember what revision you installed, but I think you can see which one you have in some usb loader apps at least if you click like the info button of it.

I know for beardface's coverfloader if you click the icon at the top right it will tell you all the info you need including what rev cIOS you're running and stuff.

And when I said shouldn't be too bad, I mean shouldn't be anything to worry about. You basically just did what an official update would have accomplished aside from patching IOS60 (if you did do step 11, if not you can do that if you want to run installed vc/wiiware wad's from the sd card menu). In the end you have everything important you need on your Wii now so you shouldn't need to really do anything else, but keep up with new things goin on here to update things like your cIOS as rev14 is supposed to be out in like a week and updating whatever loader you want to use as those get revised like everyday to fix bugs and stuff.

InTheDeep · Jul 8, 2009

nabster92 said:
As long as it all works in the end, it's all good. I just thought your question was something along the lines of saying you didn't already get things up and running yet.

As for knowing what cIOS you're using it shouldn't really be that hard to remember what revision you installed, but I think you can see which one you have in some usb loader apps at least if you click like the info button of it.
lol true so i installed cIOS13a so im using cIOS13a , basically if i have a IOS/cIOS installed and a app/game needs it it just uses it independantly and if i installed beardface's coverfloader and looked in there i would see im using cIOS13a or whichever cIOS/IOS beardface's coverfloader uses , instead of IOS61 v19.26 that the HBC uses and shows me ?

I know for beardface's coverfloader if you click the icon at the top right it will tell you all the info you need including what rev cIOS you're running and stuff.
nice 1 cheers

And when I said shouldn't be too bad, I mean shouldn't be anything to worry about. You basically just did what an official update would have accomplished aside from patching IOS60 (if you did do step 11, if not you can do that if you want to run installed vc/wiiware wad's from the sd card menu).
Yes i did step 10 as it was then . Then it was 10) Run the IOS60 updater . . But even after this my IOS was IOS61 v19.26 is this because id just done the Ver4.0E 10) Run the 4.0 Updater or simply as u say because i used HBC and HBC Uses IOS61 v19.26 . i think i may be learning i hope so

In the end you have everything important you need on your Wii now so you shouldn't need to really do anything else, but keep up with new things goin on here to update things like your cIOS as rev14 is supposed to be out in like a week and updating whatever loader you want to use as those get revised like everyday to fix bugs and stuff.
OK kool so am good for vc/wiiware wad's from the sd card menu nice . ok nab sound info as usual dude appreciated

nabster92 said:

If you want to run it without the SD card then you would need to install a WAD of that channel with wad manager which will install a channel on your system menu of it. Be sure the wad is not a forwarder though as a forwarder will just install a channel to your Wii that will look for the boot.dol in a specific folder and would still require the sd card as such.

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Ahh kool cheers something else ive learned quality info as usual .

Ohh yeh nearly forgot scrolling in HBB looking for games/apps to DL the HBB has crashed on several occassions any ideas is it normal ? im using the 1 that came in the hackmii 1.3 the latest as of a week or two ago cheers .

Big respect for your quality info time and effort nabster92 your a diamond

Many Thanks

InTheDeep

Cheers assassda for the guide and all the packages u put together , repects to the scene makers and people involved in helping us/me get this far smile.gif u know who u are .
& nabster92 for consistant quality help and guidence

*edited to correct linkback

TheWon · Jul 8, 2009

Just wanted to say thanks for the quide. I updated 4 Wiis this pass weekend. This guide made it easy.

2yugimoto · Jul 8, 2009

wow assassda you have been busy , well thanks fror your help from before

i just felt like stoping by and saying thanks

chrisman01 · Jul 8, 2009

so it's too dangerous to use my 4gb sdhc?? I NEED to do this, but that's the only card I have!!

DespizingU · Jul 8, 2009

EDIT: Got it sorted.

maarten66 · Jul 8, 2009

Hello everyone,

I have some questions. My Wii is running 3.2E. I want to upgrade to 4.0E, but there are some things that I don't know. I want to do the online upgrade guide.
Is it possible to play backups from the disc channel with this guide?
Do I have to delete some stuff before I start with this guide?

My Wii now:
-V3.2E
-Starfall
-Preloader
-cIOS rev10
-cMIOS rev3
-DVDX
These components are installed with the MiiWii guide.

Kind regards,
maarten66

hdhacker · Jul 8, 2009

Is there a guide as good as this for LU64/LU65 Wiis? I heard there are some new hacks to get it to work with preloader, etc. An all inclusive guide like this would be helpful.

ruffets · Jul 9, 2009

QUOTE said:
ruffets said:

hi i followed giude but am stuck on this step

6) Install cIOS36 rev10 to IOS249 using Network install mode. Error installing Custom IOS ticket...Error! ... -2011

any ideas as 2 wat the problem is guys ?

sry if this has been answered b4 i was searchin but found nothin

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You don't have a vulnerable IOS with the trucha bug in it so you need to get one with it first either by following the offline guide to downgrade IOS35 (which CAN'T be done on LU64+/boot2v4 Wii's (Wii's bought around this year or so)) or you could also try using the Trucha Bug Restorer that was recently released and works on any system.

ok cheers m8 will follow your offline method, could u clear 1 thing up for me
1) Extract the files somewhere on your hard drive such as C:\wii\ and run prepare.bat and choose your desired version
should this b the version my menu is now ? (4.0e) or wat i would like it to b ?

G-Han · Jul 9, 2009

Wonderful tutorial, however, I've got a small problem. When I use BootMii to backup my NAND-file, nothing happens. None of the blocks happen to change. I can't really figure out why this is. Once I load my SD-card on my computer, it says the NAND-file is 0kb. Currently, I got a softmodded 3.4E Wii.

Edit:
Never mind, it's finally working - just took a few minutes before it started apparantly. Reminds me a bit of Windows' defragmentation utility.

melodical · Jul 10, 2009

nabster92 said:
melodical said:

Thanks for that InTheDeep but i'm a bit worried about jumping steps as the is has official Nintendo 4.0 firmware installed and currently nothing else i.e homebrew,bootmii as i had previously removed them before update.

1. Can i just follow the offline guide from step 1-15? Or do i now HAVE TO use online guide (start to end)
2. Does this mean my wii is still a 'virgin'? or is it now slutty? or does that just refer to having installed and used custom ios in the past

3. Has anyone else on here hacked wii successfully with the offline guide after having original Nintendo firmware 4.0E installed?

Thanks again dude for all your answers!

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Read the bolded parts in my post above. You should be able to do the offline guide fine, and you CAN'T do the online guide.

Edit: And oh yea I didn't really answer the last part of your 4th question. If you want to run anything through the homebrew channel you will need the sd card with the applications you want to run on it in the apps folder. So if you want to run GeckoOS you need to have on your SD card (say the drive letter is E:\) E:\apps\GeckoOS\boot.dol or if you want to run Neogamma you would put a Neogamma folder with it's boot.dol in that folder in the apps folder.

If you want to run it without the SD card then you would need to install a WAD of that channel with wad manager which will install a channel on your system menu of it. Be sure the wad is not a forwarder though as a forwarder will just install a channel to your Wii that will look for the boot.dol in a specific folder and would still require the sd card as such.

(Please see page 78 guide for the start of my queries a few nights ago if necessary!!)

Thanks again nabster but i have now FULLY installed the wii "ULTIMATE System Menu4.0 Guide" and after this I only installed neogamma R6 from hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?tm53unmfmny where gbatemp recommends (i.e from the offline guide and the only further step i have taken was to install a folder into for example sdcarddriveletter/apps/neogamma (or backslash whatever it is!) (i could not find any further instructions on how to setup the folder structure as I was confused with the purpose of the 'source folder' and whether i needed it or not??? and i noticed there 2 folders one called neogamma and the other called 'source'!!!. I only copied the neogamma folder to the wii because there were no instructions with it. I CAN PLAY OFFICIAL GAMES WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS through neogammea r6 (sorry for shouting just wanted to make this clear before a 1000 news start questioning! lol).

ALSO (their were 2 people there in the room with me veyifying ever step i made accoring to this guide!)

I have burnt several games now using 16x (MINUS-R dvd disks. (all good quality branded discs)

1st disk - pioneer 16x capable dvd drive - phillips 16x speed disk - BURNT AT 8x spped through "ImgBurn software" as an iso>dvd, game was gh(o)stbusters ntsc version (bearing in mind i have an LEH PAL model with bootmii installed/forwarding on BOOT2 and preloader blocking updates.

also:

2nd disk - pioneer 16x capable dvd drive - phillips 16x speed disk - BURNT AT 8x speed through "ImgBurn software" as an iso > dvd TYPE OF DISK WAS -r, game was madwor(l)d ntsc version

3rd disk - pioneer 16x capable dvd drive - VERBATIM 16x speed disk - BURNT AT 8x speed through "ImgBurn software" as an iso>dvd, game was (e)xcite Truck ntsc versiond - TYPE OF DISK WAS -r,

4th disk - pioneer 16x capable dvd drive - Phillips 16x speed disk - BURNT AT 4x speed through "nero" as an iso>dvd, game was D(e)ad rising ntsc versiond - TYPE OF DISK WAS -r,

5th disk - burnt verbatim dvd-r at 2x, STILL GET "DVD Read Error (972)"

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The problem i have with the software that you recomended i.e Neogamma R6 is that every backup game i try to boot with neogamma via the hobrew channel gives me the error of 'Launching game' & then after a few seconds 'DVD Read Error (972)' I have tried googling this and their is only one or two queries about this error code with no solutions!!

Sorry for being a newb but at the moment i feel like the wii is successfully hacked but not sure if any further tweaking is necessary as everything still works including original games apart from backup wii games. i have only tried the region free option so far.

Please help!

What am i doing wrong?

PS Theres a pint behind the bar for you if ever you come to Wales!!!

Thanks again

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