Hacking Team Cyclo and the DSi

Blythe31 · Apr 16, 2009

I'm not going to ask if the evo works on the dsi, I know it doesn't.
I'm just wondering if there are any updates from team cyclo?
Any hint of progress? I'm not sure where to stay updated with this stuff since the forums have been down for so long.
Also, I see people arguing back and forth whether TC will have to make a new flash cart to be able to run on the dsi, or be able to do a firmware update.
Which is more likely? I don't see how they'd do the latter due to the cyclo having to update while running and the dsi not reading the flash carts whatsoever.

Mailyfesux · Apr 16, 2009

If anything new happens and its not on TC's site, someone will know about it and probably post it here. Otherwise, everyone's on the same page. Nobody knows more or less than you.

I believe that they are already working on the new firmware. Dont know when it will be released.
Dont know about the new flash cartridge either.

Just wait and see.

On a side note, i dont know what you mean by:

QUOTE said:
I don't see how they'd do the latter due to the cyclo having to update while running and the dsi not reading the flash carts whatsoever.

please rephrase. haha

Blythe31 · Apr 16, 2009

everytime they release a firmware, you download the updater.exe and drag it onto you sd card right?
then you load that onto your Evo and run it from the ds and your flashcart automatically updates.

Idk how they plan on doing that since the dsi wont even recognize the Evo.

kantaris · Apr 16, 2009

The answer is:

We don't know yet - if there was some groundbreaking news or something cool, don't you think it would either

A: Be posted on the GBAtemp frontpage
or
B: Splattered all over the forums?

iwakura · Apr 19, 2009

Well, team cyclops released a video of the cyclo working on a DSi a long time ago. However, it apparently wasn't stable so they didn't release the firmware.

While TC may need to release a new cartridge altogether, I think it's possible that the original carts will work because of the cyclo's built in ram (which stores the firmware onto the cartridge itself and is upgradable). Granted, if you already own a cyclo, you might need a DSlite/DS to update the firmware first. they can also ship the new cyclos with an updated firmware so that the newer carts will work right out of the box.

This is all speculation of course.

edit: @PharaohsVizier great minds think alike? xD

Sportsmaniac1322 · Apr 19, 2009

I would be really surprised if Team Cyclops isn't working on a DSi solution, but knowing them, they probably want to perfect it and make it resistant against Nintendo firmware updates. They may also want to release their highly anticipated new firmware with the release of the DSi solution, so that could also be delaying it. Either way, we'll get a DSi solution from Team Cyclops at some point.

moshn · Apr 21, 2009

i don't know but, lets just hope it quick lol waiting for so long haven't even open my dsi just waiting for that day

Canonbeat234 · Apr 21, 2009

This is what I don't get sure its business but look at all the competitors that are making flash carts for the DSi. Cyclo isn't just going to make it while everything is still buying, they are going to make the flash carts when the competition is going down.

Plus a CycloDS does cost a lot, even more than actual DS game. However its worth every cent

cutterjohn · Apr 24, 2009

There's really no point in them bothering with DSi until there's a significant market which won't exist for some time...

Hedgehogofchaos · Apr 26, 2009

correct me if im wrong but the cyclods does not have an updatable bootloader.

Rayder · Apr 26, 2009

Hedgehogofchaos said:
correct me if im wrong but the cyclods does not have an updatable bootloader.

It's firmware is flashed directly to the CycloDS itself. Whether that effects the bootloader....I don't know. The stuff in the CycloDS folder on the microSD are just support files the CycloDS wrote when a new firmware is booted for the first time. And TeamCyclops tends to update the firmware quite often.

Tokiopop · Apr 26, 2009

To all those saying you'd need to use a DS Phat or Lite; Theoretically, you're wrong. You would, theoretically, update the CycloDS, and then update the DSi. If you update the DSi first, and don't have access to an old DS, you're theoretically screwed.

Maz7006 · Apr 26, 2009

SO far, no new news what so ever about Team Cyclo's Dsi flashcard. Only time can tell.

Hedgehogofchaos · Apr 26, 2009

QUOTE said:
QUOTE said:

QUOTE(Hedgehogofchaos @ Apr 25 2009, 09:14 PM)
correct me if im wrong but the cyclods does not have an updatable bootloader.

Click to expand...

It's firmware is flashed directly to the CycloDS itself. Whether that effects the bootloader....I don't know. The stuff in the CycloDS folder on the microSD are just support files the CycloDS wrote when a new firmware is booted for the first time. And TeamCyclops tends to update the firmware quite often.

I looked it up and TC cannot change the image during the booting process, which leads me to assume the bootloader is not updatable.

punkyrule · May 7, 2009

This is what TC has, maybe this is what we'll get.

mo_thug_85 · May 9, 2009

when do you think this will be launched. i got a dsi and really want a cart for it.

punkyrule · May 11, 2009

mo_thug_85 said:
when do you think this will be launched. i got a dsi and really want a cart for it.

i'll get a DSi next week or befor june but maybe i'll get EZ flash Vi because of the upgrade or the newer version/kernel and also because the TC would take a lot more time in trying to figure out how to get in to the DSi mode using their flashcart.

Chrono_Tata · May 11, 2009

punkyrule said:
mo_thug_85 said:

when do you think this will be launched. i got a dsi and really want a cart for it.

Click to expand...

i'll get a DSi next week or befor june but maybe i'll get EZ flash Vi because of the upgrade or the newer version/kernel and also because the TC would take a lot more time in trying to figure out how to get in to the DSi mode using their flashcart.

I'm sure they've already "figured it out" (everyone seems to have; can't be that hard), it's a matter of whether they think it worth it to put a new model into production and sell it. Not a lot of people own the DSi at the moment and if Nintendo manage to block flashcarts for good then that's a lot of investment just vapourised into thin air.

Heran Bago · May 11, 2009

http://www.teamcyclops.com/forum/showthrea...0062&page=7

Team Cyclops said:
Hello,

We don't have any information concerning DSi support yet. Our engineers
are working on it. All information concerning upcoming product will be
announced on our web site, Unfortunately we don't have any release date.

Thank you for your interest in our product.

Best Regards,
Team Cyclops - Tech Support

That's all folks!

Basically, no one knows if current flashcarts are future-proof as far as updates or DSi titles are concerned. Team cyclops is more concerned with releasing a quality product than a fast one so expect to be waiting.

Rayder · May 11, 2009

I've been hoping they can just do a FW update to get the half-assed compatibility like other carts have now in their "i" carts (you know, works in DSi, but doesn't unlock DSi mode), then once DSi mode is cracked, release a FULL CycloDSi that supports DSi mode too. If they could manage that, they would be gods in the flashcart community.

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