Wii #0881 - Wii Music (USA)

shaunj66 · Oct 21, 2008

^^wiirelease-1444^^

Zenith94 · Oct 21, 2008

is there a campaign for this or is it all free play?

gEist · Oct 21, 2008

shaunj, disaster is missing

alex · Oct 21, 2008

I have the JPN version, but once No More Heroes is done downloading I'll try this, it should be fun...

Is it pre-scrubbed? Cause the Japan one was...

CockroachMan · Oct 21, 2008

alex said:
I have the JPN version, but once No More Heroes is done downloading I'll try this, it should be fun...

Is it pre-scrubbed? Cause the Japan one was...

Japanese releases are all scrubbed.. western ones aren't.. shouldn't take long for someone to scrub it..

lou_weed · Oct 21, 2008

Just because everyone noticed its a 460~MB game from the japanese release, I've gotta ask :

What exactly is the problem with scrubbed releases ? they work after all , and are better for the environment (all the computers would save 90% of the time downloading wii-music : less electricity

)

Sorry for the noobish question.

INTERNETS · Oct 21, 2008

lou_weed said:
Just because everyone noticed its a 460~MB game from the japanese release, I've gotta ask :

What exactly is the problem with scrubbed releases ? they work after all , and are better for the environment (all the computers would save 90% of the time downloading wii-music : less electricity

)

Sorry for the noobish question.

because scrubbed games exploit a vulnerability in the firmware to run - they're not guaranteed to work as long as, say, a 1:1 copy used with a modchip.

Plus, the scene is filled with obsessive quality control.

CockroachMan · Oct 21, 2008

lou_weed said:
Just because everyone noticed its a 460~MB game from the japanese release, I've gotta ask :

What exactly is the problem with scrubbed releases ? they work after all , and are better for the environment (all the computers would save 90% of the time downloading wii-music : less electricity

)

Sorry for the noobish question.

You mean.. why are they nuked!?
AFAIK Nintendo could come up with a patch at any moment and make scrubbed releases stop working.. so they would have to be nuked. Till now, nothing was done, and I don't think it will..

lou_weed · Oct 21, 2008

thanks for the quick answer.
so this whole scrubbed thing might be blocked by a firmware upgrade ? causing all japanese releases not to work ?

just sounds funny that the japs are using it for 100% of their releases.

raulpica · Oct 21, 2008

INTERNETS said:
lou_weed said:

Just because everyone noticed its a 460~MB game from the japanese release, I've gotta ask :

What exactly is the problem with scrubbed releases ? they work after all , and are better for the environment (all the computers would save 90% of the time downloading wii-music : less electricity

)

Sorry for the noobish question.

Click to expand...

because scrubbed games exploit a vulnerability in the firmware to run - they're not guaranteed to work as long as, say, a 1:1 copy used with a modchip.

Plus, the scene is filled with obsessive quality control.

Dack is not here, otherwise he would tell you that you're wrong. So I'm doing that in his place

Scrubbed releases ARE NOT Trucha Signed. So they don't use ANY vulnerabilities in the firmware.

The only way to block Scrubbed releases would be implementing a check for 00s (I'm not entirely sure if it replaces the garbage data with 00s or FFs, but nevermind, we'll just continue to use that

) in the Game Discs. But they can't do that, seeing that some games out there come with 00s already in them (the only examples which come to mind of this would be Puzzle Quest). So they won't break compatibility and risk being sued only because of a few scrubbed games.

Why the scene won't adopt scrubbed releases? We won't ever know. PS2 scene uses them. The GC scene used them. There were no objections on quality back then, strange, uh? And even if the problem is all about preservation, you could easily revert them with an included patch.

So there's not really a reason to not do it. The Scene decided it this way, and it seems things won't change soon.

Oh well, here ends this off-topic. Sorry 'bout it.

lou_weed · Oct 22, 2008

raulpica said:
INTERNETS said:

lou_weed said:

Just because everyone noticed its a 460~MB game from the japanese release, I've gotta ask :

What exactly is the problem with scrubbed releases ? they work after all , and are better for the environment (all the computers would save 90% of the time downloading wii-music : less electricity

)

Sorry for the noobish question.

Click to expand...

because scrubbed games exploit a vulnerability in the firmware to run - they're not guaranteed to work as long as, say, a 1:1 copy used with a modchip.

Plus, the scene is filled with obsessive quality control.

Click to expand...

Dack is not here, otherwise he would tell you that you're wrong. So I'm doing that in his place

Scrubbed releases ARE NOT Trucha Signed. So they don't use ANY vulnerabilities in the firmware.

The only way to block Scrubbed releases would be implementing a check for 00s (I'm not entirely sure if it replaces the garbage data with 00s or FFs, but nevermind, we'll just continue to use that

) in the Game Discs. But they can't do that, seeing that some games out there come with 00s already in them (the only examples which come to mind of this would be Puzzle Quest). So they won't break compatibility and risk being sued only because of a few scrubbed games.

Why the scene won't adopt scrubbed releases? We won't ever know. PS2 scene uses them. The GC scene used them. There were no objections on quality back then, strange, uh? And even if the problem is all about preservation, you could easily revert them with an included patch.

So there's not really a reason to not do it. The Scene decided it this way, and it seems things won't change soon.

Oh well, here ends this off-topic. Sorry 'bout it.

man , some interesting stuff you wrote there... thanks a bunch
anyway, since wii music is crap anyway, dont mind the off-topic

Magus · Oct 22, 2008

so i heard the game won't run with 3.2 firmware (black screen if you skip update) and i don't want to bother with gecko-os or upgrade (skipped all the update trough freeloader...) should i pass or is there any way to use gecko-os without bothering with the WAD installer and the stuff like that?

CockroachMan · Oct 22, 2008

Apparently the game has a 3.3U update..

I have a D2CKey and don't really use homebrew.. what harm could I get by updating the firmware?

WarmWoollySheep · Oct 22, 2008

No harm.

For the current status of homebrew and firmware versions, always check here:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Homebrew_status

alex · Oct 22, 2008

I can play the JPN version and I have 3.2+Starfall.

I hope it the same.

I just need to figure out how to unlock songs in the JPN version.

Rock Raiyu · Oct 22, 2008

...Is this game worht getting? Just to ask.

Raylene2K7 · Oct 22, 2008

#1 contender
as "most overrated game of the year"

I'm absolutely not interested in this game, not one bit.

CockroachMan · Oct 22, 2008

Raylene2K7 said:
#1 contender
as "most overrated game of the year"

I'm absolutely not interested in this game, not one bit.

Actually, except for maybe Nintendo themselves.. I saw no one overrating this game..

Raylene2K7 · Oct 22, 2008

yes i mean Nintendo, since E3 it's all about Wii Music, that's just embarrassing

Fat D · Oct 22, 2008

does it work without installing IOS37? Sure as hell I will not permit an IOS30/31 update, but it would be nice if I could keep the rest of my system clean, as well.

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