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Un-brick Options:
-Try Maintenance mode first, but it works rarely to never. Press both the + and - buttons at warning screen, and hold them as you attempt to boot by hitting A.
-Zelda TP Autoboot IF you have TP hack AND Autoboot Supportive Chip installed. (works on 3.3)
-Zelda TP Autoboot IF you have TP hack AND no-Autoboot Chip installed AND a SaveMii Dongle (works on 3.3)
-Zelda TP Autoboot IF you have TP hack AND a SaveMii Dongle AND Autoboot Supportive Chip installed BUT brick causes freeze too early for standard autoboot to work. (works on 3.3)
-Zelda TP Official IF you have TP hack AND Starfall patches installed BUT no Chip. (works only on 3.2) [no cost!!!] *note: works because, unlike SaveMii, Starfall can autoboot non-autoboot discs, including retail copies
-AnyTitle Deleter/Wad Manager Disc Autoboot IF you have Autoboot Supportive Chip installed BUT no TP hack (works below 3.3)
-AnyTitle Deleter/Wad Manager Disc Autoboot IF you have a no-Autoboot Chip installed AND a SaveMii Dongle (works below 3.3) [most expensive]
-AnyTitle Deleter/Wad Manager Disc Autoboot IF you have SaveMii Dongle AND Autoboot Supportive Chip installed BUT no TP hack AND brick causes freeze too early for standard autoboot to work. (works below 3.3)

Until BootMii is released and you have it preinstalled,
there is no recovery from a banner brick
on a 3.3 with no twilight hack, even with a chip and SaveMii.

BootMii should allow you to recover ANY banner brick, on ANY current update (and probably future), because it looks for code to run from the SD slot before anything else, so you will not even need TP Hack or HBC at some point, except for the initial install, obviously.

And to answer the question posed about autoboot being a trucha feature, no, it is not a trucha-signed feature, so an autoboot Zelda TP works on 3.3, as I listed. An autoboot homebrew disc would be trucha-signed though, so unless you have TP hack installed, that won't help you.

Update: Corrected some info, forgot Starfall is a 3.2-only patcher. If you have 3.2, TP hack, and Starfall installed, you should always be pretty safe at zero cost.
 

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Holy crap, thanks for the help guys! Uh, I still have a little more sleeping I'd like to catch up on, but I'll tell you guys how it goes in a few hours.
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Wow, I've never heard of this happening before... How much would you have to install for it to brick like that? I've installed too many games before to where I would turn the Wii on and it would take me directly to the memory menu to delete things. I could delete several large channels and the memory would still show 0 blocks free, I have to delete A LOT of stuff for it to go back to normal. I've never heard of it being completely bricked though.
 

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his brick is from a bad banner most likely, but yes, I suppose if you installed enough wads, or if the install process failed for whatever reason, you could still produce a "banner" brick, but we call it that for a reason, because the only reported culprit of such a brick is a bad banner.
 

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Heck ya HackMii can! (if you installed the custom IOS you needed before brick... so sorry, this post is use less)
It is software what loads things up BEFORE the health and safety screen (before check the Wii Menu channels etc.) (See www.hackmii.com for the Boot2 things etc etc etc)(witch is very interesting)
So than you can un-install the BAD Wad (since you get black screen after health and safety)

Or you must install a / some Wad's till you have enough space
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(right? may this not work, I heard?)
 

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The autoboot disk worked!
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Apparently I had plenty of space for the 5 games I threw on there, but one of the Megaman games had a bad banner. I'm probably gonna try to pinpoint which one it is so I can let others know.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!
 

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trebulator said:
The autoboot disk worked!
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Apparently I had plenty of space for the 5 games I threw on there, but one of the Megaman games had a bad banner. I'm probably gonna try to pinpoint which one it is so I can let others know.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!
Good, good. Who sent that link
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I don't think playing a few VC games is really that fun plus you may brick it. I'd stay away from VC games for now.
 

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playallday said:
trebulator said:
The autoboot disk worked!
biggrin.gif


Apparently I had plenty of space for the 5 games I threw on there, but one of the Megaman games had a bad banner. I'm probably gonna try to pinpoint which one it is so I can let others know.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!
Good, good. Who sent that link
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?

I don't think playing a few VC games is really that fun plus you may brick it. I'd stay away from VC games for now.

That's exactly why I prefer emulators to VC games. They're smaller in size, safer, and you have more options and features. The only VC games I have installed are N64 games, all of which I actually bought and downloaded from the Wii Store (before I modded my Wii).
 

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That's great trebulator that you got it un-bricked. I always hate reading that anyone has bricked a console or handheld.

So, since I'm still new to Wii homebrew, I want to find out what precautions I can take to recover from an accidental brick. The only wads I've installed so far(and will install in the future) are N64 wads(I will do this until the N64 emulator becomes full speed), and WiiWare wads. I haven't done any VC wads since they're all available through emulator. So I doubt I will ever install any. But...I get my wads only from a specific all gaming private tracker. Quality control is great there, and I always read the comments first before I download anything, just to make sure the files are ok. So, I think I'll be alright in the future because of this, but I just want to make sure.

So what I have is a NTSC Wii, with 3.3 firmware on it(updated it the other day way before I decided to install homebrew). And no chip. So what is the no cost way to recover from a future brick? I already have a TP hack on the Wii. But I noticed in noobwarrior7's post up above, that he didn't mention a no cost way for the 3.3. Only 3.2.

So if I can't install some files, on my NTSC Wii that has 3.3 firmware and no chip, to later recover from a brick, then is there any way I can go back down to 3.2? And is it dangerous to downgrade?

Thank you for any help. I will appreciate it.
 

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It is possible to downgrade to 3.2 with waninkoko's downgrader. Several people have reported bricks using it (mostly when changing regions) and if it looses power while patching it is an almost guaranteed brick. Personally, I have used it to downgrade to 3.2U (and 3.2E before starfall worked on NTSC) on several Wiis, but I'm not going to guarantee you that you wont brick your wii downgrading. If you plan on installing lots of wads, or working with icons and banners (like I do), it is probably worth the risk.
 

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playallday said:
trebulator said:
The autoboot disk worked!
biggrin.gif


Apparently I had plenty of space for the 5 games I threw on there, but one of the Megaman games had a bad banner. I'm probably gonna try to pinpoint which one it is so I can let others know.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!
Good, good. Who sent that link
tongue.gif
?

I don't think playing a few VC games is really that fun plus you may brick it. I'd stay away from VC games for now.
WiiCrazy gave a link to a topic that had a link for the autoboot disk that helped me unbrick.
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I actually much prefer using VC wads versus emulators, since it keeps me concentrated on a smaller amount of games, and the banner reminds me to play it. A lot of times I'll forget I'm playing a certain game through an emulator and never finish it. So basically VC games are just big reminders for my Wii menu.
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Thank you Zerxer and Supercool for the info. I'm a little torn here. I will be dealing with a lot of wads from Wiiware, and future N64 games that I like, until the emu becomes full speed. But, as I mentioned, I think my source for wads is excellent. So I don't think I'll be getting a bad one. And by some chance a bad one does get uploaded to the site, somebody else will catch it long before I get to it. And as long as I don't try region freeing a wad(which im only going to play ntscu wads on my ntscu wii), I just don't see how I could mess anything up. They install easy enough with wad manager.

But...I'm the type that just likes to be prepared, so going down to 3.2 sounds good. And I've flashed both my DS and PSP multiple times, and never lost power or anything like that. And I won't be switching regions. I'll just be doing a straight downgrade from 3.3 to 3.2. And as long as I don't lose power, I'm sure the downgrade will go fine. But I always get nervous before my first flash on a new system.

But, right now it looks like my only two options is to either wait for BootMii, or downgrade. I get some thinking to do.

Thanks again for the help.
 

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