ROM Hack Summon Night Translation Project

boojumz · Oct 11, 2008

Hi
I'm boojumz and i've recently started hacking Summon Night 2 in order to possibly get a full translation.

Thanks to Darthnemesis' and noitora's help as well as Darth's awesome tool, i managed to decompress and extract all the text and have posted a few of the files here.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pSX...K08JQ&hl=en

There is around a total of 1.5 megabytes...which is quite a bit, but i'll be posting them one by one as everything gets translated.

translate stuff if you want. if you want to be credited, post here.

Please if you don't know Japanese do not try to edit stuff, as online translators have been proven time and again to fail on epic proportions. Vandalism is also simply pointless as I can easily revert the file to an older version. i'll see if i can copy this post onto the front of the topic.

Currently, there isn't much progress as I am quite busy over the week and KiseKibou is the only one translating, but this project will be alive as long as I am.

At the moment, I am searching for the menus and item names. I'll post here as soon as I find them and then add another sheet to the spreadsheet.

DarthNemesis · Oct 11, 2008

Reserving space for new versions of SummonTrans, if necessary.

Download SummonTrans v0.2

Guile589 · Oct 11, 2008

Cool^^ I hope it will come out fine, 'couse SN series is great. Many thanks for taking this project:]

Sylphid D. Glein · Oct 12, 2008

Hail to the king baby

XD

Pimpmynintendo · Oct 12, 2008

Sylphid D. Glein said:
Hail to the king baby

XD

It's good ta be da king!

boojumz · Oct 14, 2008

hmm...does anyone know anything about .narc files? i've been searching basically everything but i really can't find anything that resembles the the menus. i'm pretty sure the battle menus and stuff are all graphics, but not too many files showed anything at all...and the ones that seemed the most promising ended up crashing Nintenlord's LZ77 decompression tool.

Aikia · Oct 14, 2008

I translated a few lines I was sure of...but nothing worth credit. How full do you plan on this being? Image editing too?

Dark · Oct 14, 2008

Good luck and this game seems pretty cool.

DarthNemesis · Oct 14, 2008

boojumz said:
hmm...does anyone know anything about .narc files? i've been searching basically everything but i really can't find anything that resembles the the menus. i'm pretty sure the battle menus and stuff are all graphics, but not too many files showed anything at all...and the ones that seemed the most promising ended up crashing Nintenlord's LZ77 decompression tool.

Here are the results of my investigation so far. You can use Nintenlord's tool to decompress the narc, then narctool to unpack it. You'll end up with a bunch of files...

Type 1: Static image
NCLR = palette(s)
NCGR = graphics for 8x8 tiles
NSCR = map of tiles to image (tile number, X/Y flip, palette number)

Type 2: Moving image
NCLR = palette(s)
NCBR/NCGR = graphics for 8x8 tiles
NCER = map of tiles to animation cells
NANR = animation data

I've figured out the format of static images, but haven't looked much into animations yet.

The title screen menu options are stored in title\ti1_sp_sub0001.narc. Here's the raw tile data:

As you can see, it consists of the text with transparent glow, merged onto the background. Here's the background, for reference:

Replacement images would need to consist of the text with glow effect, at 5 different levels of transparency, along with any background data touched by the glow effect.

boojumz · Oct 14, 2008

narctool? ok...i knew i was missing something...i'll find it soon and see if i can find things. thanks a lot, darth!

valyr · Oct 14, 2008

NARCExplorer2.exe
here you are another Narc opening tool

HernanZh · Oct 14, 2008

DarthNemesis said:
As you can see, it consists of the text with transparent glow, merged onto the background. Here's the background, for reference:
Replacement images would need to consist of the text with glow effect, at 5 different levels of transparency, along with any background data touched by the glow effect.

Ouch, looks tough to edit >.>

psycoblaster · Oct 14, 2008

HernanZh said:
DarthNemesis said:

As you can see, it consists of the text with transparent glow, merged onto the background. Here's the background, for reference:
Replacement images would need to consist of the text with glow effect, at 5 different levels of transparency, along with any background data touched by the glow effect.

Click to expand...

Ouch, looks tough to edit >.>

or you can easily edit it but lose a lot of quality

boojumz · Oct 15, 2008

ok...so this is what i managed to get after five minutes...i find that it becomes most visible when i shift it over 47 times...this is the title menu that Darthnemesis just showed a few posts ago...
i was just wondering how i would go about changing the colour palette in order to match the real colours that would be displayed? because right now, things are pretty black and white...

psycoblaster · Oct 15, 2008

give me your NCLR and NCGR files. let me see them
i've been experimenting with graphics and palettes a lot today XP (check the last page of of the ys ds thread)
I might be able to write up a quick tutorial for you if you need to

psycoblaster · Oct 16, 2008

here's what I got.

This is the ti1_sp_sub0001uncomp.arc file you gave me.
I am using Tile Molester to view this, and this quick tutorial will be based on Tile Molester.
I'm not quite sure how to import a palette from another file, so I used the archived file, because the palette and the graphic is in the same file.
First of all, the 2 common graphic codecs used in DS graphics are 4 bpp linear and 8 bpp linear.
The 4 bpp usually uses a 16 color palette, while the 8 bpp graphics usually uses a 256 color palette.
The palettes used in NDS ROMs are made out of 2 bytes for each color, so a 16 colored palette inside the ROM will be 32 bytes of hex, and the 256 color palette will be 512 bytes of hex.
As you can see in Darthnemesis's and my pic, you can just see how it does NOT use 16 colors, but a lot more. It's a shot from the dark, but you can guess that this graphic file will be encoded with 8 bpp linear.
Do an ascii search for either one of these two:
RLCN
TTLP
These 2 text are found in the header of many palette files.
The header is 40 bytes long, so the actual palette starts at 0x19F5C.
Now on TM, goto palette -> import from -> this file
It will ask you to input the size and the offset of the palette.
As explained above, graphics encoded with 8 bpp will have a 256 color palette, so the size will be 256.
The offset needs to be inputed in decimal form, which can easily be done by the inbuilt calculator of an XP/vista (not sure about mac), or there should be online calculators that converts hexadecimals into decimals.
So once you input the decimal form of the beginning offset of the palette, which should be 106332, you'll get something similar to our examples.
But, if you did not mess around with anything else than what I have told you so far, you will get this:

You will notice the weird non-graphic stuff in front of the graphics. Using the buttons that look like the less than and greater than signs, and the addition and division signs, try to get the starting tile to be the beginning of your graphic file, just like Darth's or mine. I just messed around with the width/height of the grid so I could see the whole graphic file in the window.
Well, here is what I did to get the graphic to fit:
use the scroll bar on the left side to scroll down 3 rows
click on the button that looks like ">" 12 times
click on the button that looks like "+" 28 times
and mess around with the buttons on the left to it, which increases the grid height/width.

DarthNemesis · Oct 16, 2008

psycoblaster said:
I'm not quite sure how to import a palette from another file, so I used the archived file, because the palette and the graphic is in the same file.

Method A
1) Open the NCGR and the NCLR in a hex editor
2) Copy the palette from the NCLR into the NCGR
3) View/edit the combined file
4) Open the combined file in a hex editor and remove the palette from it

Method B
1) Copy NCLR into a different folder and rename it to the same filename as the NCGR
2) Open it in Tile Molester and import the palette (make sure to select Copy)
3) Use Add to Palettes to save the palette
3) Close the renamed NCLR and open the NCGR
4) Select the saved palette from the Palette menu

boojumz · Oct 17, 2008

thanks for all the help!
I got it to work and everything seems to be the right colours and everything. i guess ièll use tile molester from now on...i just realized how great it is...before i didnèt quite understand it all...

just one thing...now, in order to translate these...basically, i just wipe everything clean and replace it with my translation...or do i need to do something to deal with all the mismatched stuff.

psycoblaster · Oct 17, 2008

DarthNemesis said:
psycoblaster said:

I'm not quite sure how to import a palette from another file, so I used the archived file, because the palette and the graphic is in the same file.
Method A
1) Open the NCGR and the NCLR in a hex editor
2) Copy the palette from the NCLR into the NCGR
3) View/edit the combined file
4) Open the combined file in a hex editor and remove the palette from it

Method B
1) Copy NCLR into a different folder and rename it to the same filename as the NCGR
2) Open it in Tile Molester and import the palette (make sure to select Copy)
3) Use Add to Palettes to save the palette
3) Close the renamed NCLR and open the NCGR
4) Select the saved palette from the Palette menu

the first method was what I was thinking about before I slept XP
but I was never able to get how the add to palettes worked... but thanks, now i've figured out

QUOTE(boojumz @ Oct 17 2008, 01:20 AM)

Click to expand...

thanks for all the help!
I got it to work and everything seems to be the right colours and everything. i guess ièll use tile molester from now on...i just realized how great it is...before i didnèt quite understand it all...

just one thing...now, in order to translate these...basically, i just wipe everything clean and replace it with my translation...or do i need to do something to deal with all the mismatched stuff.

opening the graphics is the easy part. As you can see, it's not aligned for you. What I would do is deal with the misaligned stuff... I'm not as great as Darthnemesis XP but dealing with 8bpp graphics will be a pain.

DarthNemesis · Oct 17, 2008

boojumz said:
thanks for all the help!
I got it to work and everything seems to be the right colours and everything. i guess ièll use tile molester from now on...i just realized how great it is...before i didnèt quite understand it all...

just one thing...now, in order to translate these...basically, i just wipe everything clean and replace it with my translation...or do i need to do something to deal with all the mismatched stuff.No, you have to rearrange the replacement image into the same jumbled format as the original.

QUOTE(psycoblaster @ Oct 16 2008, 05:28 PM) the first method was what I was thinking about before I slept XP
but I was never able to get how the add to palettes worked... but thanks, now i've figured out

Yeah, it's kind of annoying that palettes are saved separately for each file, but you can get around it by using the same filename.

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