New DS confirmed

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I know it's been mentioned already, but why would they get rid of the GBA slot
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No Guitar Hero for the DSi :X I'm sure they'll release a version some how though.
 

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Kbs said:
I know it's been mentioned already, but why would they get rid of the GBA slot
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No Guitar Hero for the DSi :X I'm sure they'll release a version some how though.
How? Wireless?
fuhgetaboutit.
 

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Roman_42 said:
New DS games which require a Camera and internal memory won't work anymore on the DS Lite/Phat.
Old DS games which require the GBA slot won't work on the DSi anymore.
Those games will have to be downloaded, and downloaded games won't work on old DS-es. But retail DS games will not be DSi exclusive.
 

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As interesting as this new development may be for most, I'll only be interested when someone confirms that flashcarts work on this iteration. I'm still quite happy with my DSL.
 

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Dunny said:
One thing that has occurred to me -

This lack of a slot-2 option is a little disturbing. Everyone knows that piracy is rampant on the DS. If a game company wants to ensure that there are maximum sales of their game then the best way would be to include an extra that you can't get by pirating.

The guitar-hero grip. Motion sensor. Paddle controller. Edit: There's also the Browser add-on. I know that Opera is being bundled in with the system firmware (possibly), but someone was selling that browser for the DS, and now they can't.

None of those can be used by the pirate unless he or she buys the game. And the games are nowhere near as much fun without them.

Looks like the removal of the slot-2 is

a) Going to make things easier for pirates \o/
b) a huge kick in the nuts for the game studios that offered us these extras, and probably a huge kick in the nuts for their sales potential too.

Erk, eh?

D.


To my knowledge there were only like 4 games out of the entire 2500+ DS library that needs a special addon (slot 2) There's the DS browser (not someone, but Nintendo was the one who developed it), Guitar Hero On Tour (and there's already tutorials out there on how to make your own, as well as patches to the ROM itself to play without the addon), DS Fit, or whatever it was called that uses the Pedometer in the Slot 2 to track how many steps you take during the day, and there was the Rumble pack that worked with Metriod Prime Hunters (what other games did it work with??)

So, all the "NEEDED Slot 2" devices weren't actually needed! The only thing I can see this hurting are games that used the GBA version of it to transfer data (Pokemon, D. Band Bros (japan))

Things were never that hard for pirates... the Guitar Hero patch was out within 4 days of the ROM being released... no big deal there...

MANY MANY MANY Slot 1 flash carts have patches for the DS browser to be used with Slot 2 flash carts, and there's even homebrew Browser apps out there that don't need anything in slot 2!

As for the kick in the nuts to sales?? Yea... I get ya there... now, people will have to KEEP their old DS phat/lite to play guitar hero, AND buy a DSi... yea, huge hurt for Nintendo!! With all the new hardware, and faster WiFi, who's to say there won't be a wireless solution for the Guitar Grip, or other devices! Just look a the new Pedometer... wireless... bet no one will think of a way to use anything else wirelessly! NOPE!!

As for pirates... if there's a will, there's a way... there will always be pirates, so there will always be a way around everything!

[sarcasm]Well, I'm off to build me a new Guitar Grip for GH:OT... that way I don't have to go out and buy it... because, arrrhhgg!! I BE A PIRATE!![/sarcasm]
 

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My limited Japanese translation of the official Nintento site says it has picture chat, the DS shop and something called "download play" (i assume like the free demos at game stores?). It also says you can use pay or non pay wireless LAN. Not sure why they want to specify that but they do. I couldn't find any mention of an FM radio. Two cameras, one inside (by the mic) one out, and an sd memory card slot. It also has a music player and internal memory for downloaded software.

From what I can tell the SD slot can be used to store music files (MP3?) and you can use the system as a portable music player! Thats where the radio confusion came from.
 

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I'm not going to read 40 pages, but I read that both cameras are like 0.3MP and not 3MP for the outer camera.

Also, anyone know if it'll support flash cards?
 

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Like many other people have already stated, while it Would be cool to have a new hardware product to purchase, it doesn't seem worthwhile for the (I'm guessing?) majority of gbatempers...until they find out whether or not the 'old' flashcarts will work, or if new flascarts/modding becomes available, etc.

It's the same thing with the PSP-3000- not an upgrade regarding the processing power, but of 'features'/more-possible limitations for pirates... so the best option seems to just wait it out. (Which we'll have to anyhow, right? 'Well into the calendar year of 2009' and all that?)


...and that Pandora thing looks/sounds Awesome, by the way, though -unless PSP/DSL/DSi emulators are perfected on it- not as deserving (for me!) of a purchase as say, a MSI Wind/EEE PC with 6-cell battery.
 

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I remember this. The GameBoy Color, while having some cartridges that were only for it (like Super Mario Bros Deluxe), had several that could play on the original GameBoy, but could also be played on the Color as intended. So the black cartridges were dual-types so to speak, and the clear paks with a slighty different shape were meant to be used only with the GBC (and were shaped so that the famous power-slot thing wouldn't be able to go on unless you cut that off).

So, this is to the DS as the GameBoy Color was to the original GameBoy. ...in a way, anyway. I presume that there will be games like the "clear-pak" GBC-only titles that can only work on a DSi, but everything else will be a "black-pak" DS-any cartridge.

...I wonder. I can't remember if they actually have different-colored carts out for the DS, but that would certainly be one way to differentiate the systems it can play on. Hmm hmm.
 

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tinymonkeyt said:
oh, i dont care what you do with this >.<
im updating as engadget updates
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2 Cameras? wtf? why do we need 2??
and internal memory?
Obvious one for Camera Games which is in front and the other one for usage as a photo camera which would be the 3MP camera
 

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40 pages? that's too much reading...

[sarcasm] it's like a digital cam that play games! [/sarcasm]
In my opinion Nintendo is triyng to milk more money from the casual gamers, and i don't like this kind of attitude.
They must be happy with the money from the real gamers!!!

jokes aside, i don't think this camera thing will be so great, and i like the slot-2
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they don't needed to take it off...
 

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Hit said:
Obvious one for Camera Games which is in front and the other one for usage as a photo camera which would be the 3MP camera
People keep saying that both are .3MP, which makes no sense to me. Why have them both be the same resolution if one's got a bigger lens?

...you know, I'm now also vaguely reminded of that guy who turned his DS into a ...uh, the add-on thing for cameras to make it take pictures. Yeah. Shutter, whatever thing.
 

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Sorry if these have already been posted (not looking through 40 pages!)

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New power button looks ugly I mean wtf leave it how it was?? And the camera? Ewww... DS Lite looks much sexier.
 

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