Gaming Sigma Harmonics Help Thread

chocomog257 · Aug 29, 2008

Sorry for keeping you guys waiting for so long.

Here is my translation of Chapter 2 Walkthrough. It took me 4 hours to revise the chapter and translate everything.

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* Flowchart
?16:00 - Search for all Soul Shadows
?15:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, 1st Reasoning
- Warp to 17:00 enabled
?17:00
- After the murder event, search the Soul Shadow in the Snow White Room (the secret room in the lower right corner)
- Warp to 18:00 enabled
?18:00
- Search the Soul Shadow at Platform (Southwest) to trigger encounter with the Yuriha
- Search the Soul Shadow in the Living room (South)
- After reasoning, fight the Great Ouma
?Chapter 2 complete

* Seals
?16:00
- [Yuriko’s death] (Yuriko’s face) + [Did not come downstairs from 2F] (red 2F? sign) Receive automatically after the opening scene
- [Yoshiko in the Kitchen] (Knife and fork) - Kitchen
- [Sound from the platform] (Sound icon) - Living room, south
- [Two people playing billiards] (Shizuma and the butler) - Leisure Game Room
- [Blood stain above the train] - Mansion 2F corridor (South bridge, right of map) Search the red stain easily seen under the bridge
- [Fallen Ivy] (Leaf icon) - Mansion 2F corridor (South bridge, right of map) Search the ivy plant near the right exit
?15:00
- [Yuriko went to 2F] (blue 2F icon) Living room, south of map
- [The one who called out is Shizuma] (Shizuma with speech bubble) Room of the World (Left side, upper room with the globe)
- [Yoshiko who borrowed the key] (Key) 2F corridor Northeast, lower right
?17:00
- [Yoshiko who unlocked the door] (Yoshiko with the key) 2F corridor Southeast
- [Shizuma … in the secret room] (grayed Shizuma face) + [Grandmother who came running] (Ume with speech bubble) + [The butler who camerunning] (Butler with speech bubble) Snow White room
- [Yoshiko’s scream] (Exclamation mark) + [Grandmother’s voice from outside the room] (single speech bubble) Evening Moon room - upper left corner, next to Room of the World
?18:00
[Only Yoshiko passed by] (Yoshiko’s face) + [The two who took a break] (Coffee cup) Living room / South

* After collecting those Seals, do over the Reasoning of Yuriko’s murder and get the correct answer.

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 16:00 right under the Shadow of Soul in the living room
There are times that you can get Seals by searching apart from the Soul Shadows that are also necessary for Reasoning. At 16:00 there seem to be two of them…
[2nd piece] 15:00 Living room south section, near the stairs
Nene’s intuition is a sharp insight. Reasoning will be easier if we believe rather than try doubting it.
[3rd piece] 15:00 2F corridor, middle/right section of North bridge
If you can’t see the answer, then maybe viewing everything in a “three-dimensional” way is a good idea.
[4th piece] 15:00 Room of the World, go upstairs and left
There are three Seals that we can see as unrelated but happened at the same time. At … hour, …. happened, someone …
[5th piece] 17:00 Seven Wise Men room / Left (Medicine room in the upper left corner)
Before looking for evidence to deny existence of the secret room, considering how it would be if it was a secret room is another way of thinking.
[6th piece] 15:00 Grand Clock hall, south section, go to the right
Without deciding who the culprit is, it is still fine to gather the facts and jump to a conclusion.
[7th piece] 18:00 Kitchen / Upper right corner
An incident at 16:00 is trivial, but that is possibly a Seal that reinforces the final Darkness.
[8th piece] 17:00 Garden / Between the two tree trunks
The mystery of Yuriko’s murder lies “above” where she died.

* Notice
- From this chapter onwards the Gods (??) and Karmas (???) will appear on the map. Either Gods or Karmas are quite powerful, so better not encounter them carelessly.
- If the [Gods’ droppings] (??????) board in the Reasoning menu is cleared, it is possible to gain a new card.

* Reasoning
Page 1: Yuriko’s murder (1st time)
- Biggest mystery involved in Yuriko’s murder -> [Did not come downstairs from 2F] *Put on either left or above
- Was what Nene said true? -> [Yes]
- The Seal proving this -> [Yuriko went to 2F]
- Seals proving the traces and incidents connected with Yuriko’s murder -> [Blood stain above the train] + [Fallen ivy] + [Sound from the platform]

Page 1: Yuriko’s murder (2nd time after searching for the event at 18:00)
- Biggest mystery involved in Yuriko’s murder -> [Did not come downstairs from 2F] + [Yuriko went to 2F] + [Only Yoshiko passed by] -> [Nene’s truth is the proof] appears
- Seals proving the traces and incidents connected with Yuriko’s murder -> [Blood stain above the train] + [Fallen ivy] + [Sound from the platform]
-> [Dropped from 2F] (man falling down icon) appears

Page 2: Shizuma’s murder
- Biggest mystery involved in Shizuma’s murder -> [Shizuma … in the secret room]
- Is Yuriko’s room the secret one? -> [Yes]
- Seals proving truth of the Secret room -> [Yoshiko who borrowed the key] + [Yoshiko who unlocked the door]
- Is Yoshiko the culprit? -> [No]
- Seals that respectively prove the overturn of Secret room and the incident at the time of Yuriko’s murder -> [Yoshiko in the kitchen] + [The butler who came running] + [The two who took a break] + [Dropped from 2F]

Raestloz · Aug 30, 2008

Hey, you posted one in my thread

Well, but maybe you shouldn't.... you see it's kinda hard to update it after you post the guide in the second post, to keep it clean I should edit your post and place the next one, but I can't, and asking you to update your post means too much work for you.

So, ya I appreciate your post, but I should be the one who update it, since I'm the creator, you've got the translator position, shame on me to put you in "updater" postition

chocomog257 · Aug 31, 2008

OK, so I leave the updating to you Raestloz.

Here's Chapter 3. Enjoy!

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Note: It is almost the exact translation, except for some of my additions, like locations of the rooms on 2F or the other Seals that appeared but were not mentioned in the original Japanese walkthrough.

* Flowchart
?18:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows.
- Warp to 19:00 enabled.
?19:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, Reasoning up to the 2nd darkness of Page 2.
- Warp to 20:00 enabled.
?20:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows.
- Warp to 17:00 enabled.
?19:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, Reasoning.
- Defeat the Great Ouma.
?Chapter 3 Complete

* Seals
?18:00
- [No one … the poison] (Poison tube) After the opening
- [Shizuma in the kitchen] (Shizuma’s face) Kitchen
- [Shizuma’s left arm] (Hand icon) Kitchen, while Neon’s job is Sniper
- [Nene …. in the elevator] (grayed face) Kitchen, search the elevator on top right side near the small chair (invisible Soul Shadow)
- [Sound inside the room] (Door & sound) 2F corridor Northeast
- [The door of the game room was locked] (Key & door) + [Yoshiko had the master key] (Yoshiko & key) + [Yoshiko in front of the game room] (Yoshiko & the door) 2F Corridor / East
?19:00
- [Himekago Yuriko’s death] + [Suspended phone] Game room / South
- [Elevator in the game room] (Knife and fork in elevator) Game room / North (Search for the blue light in the top right corner)
?20:00
- [Broken radio] + [Kurogami Family Crest] + [Shizuma’s death] Platform / Center
- [Nene’s not in her room] (Nene’s face) Evening Moon room (Northwest)
- [Yoshiko’s suicide?] (grayed face) Garment (Yoshiko’s) Room (West-south)
- [Grandmother’s death, once more…]] (grayed face) Medicine Room (Northeast)
- [Medicine capsule] Medicine Room (search blue light in top left)
- [Photograph found in Grandmother’s room] (picture frame with two people) Medicine Room (search blue light in top right corner)
?17:00
- [Yuriko’s medical certificate] Art Studio (southeast) After searching the Soul Shadow, get near the bed and search on the wall
- [Is Grandmother double personality?] 2F corridor (Northeast)

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 18:00 Grand Clock hall, front of piano
- If we get closer to the game room without searching, there lies an invisible light…
[2nd piece] 18:00 Garden, beside the car
- Three people’s alibi at the time of Grandmother’s death - if there are other people who died then those deaths become their alibi…
[3rd piece] 19:00 Device room (2F Southeast)
- Let’s reason from the only fact that the butler from Chapter 2 didn’t appear in Chapter 3.
[4th piece] 19:00 Platform / Left section, Lower right corner
- Whether the key has any link with the secret room or not is big divergence…
[5th piece] 18:00 2F corridor / North bridge, right side
- In a place at 18:00, there are facts able to discover depending on Neon’s status.
*Note: If entering Kitchen with a Card User/Knight then [Nene … in the elevator] and with a Shooter then [Shizuma’s left arm] is available.
[6th piece] 20:00 Garment Room / Go upstairs, front of desk
- Was Yoshiko’s death suicide or murder? It is possible to catch sight of her appearance as it is at 20:00.
[7th piece] 20:00 Platform, center / next to signal post on the right
- One of the questions concerning Shizuma’s death is, “At that time was there anyone capable of doing the murder? Or was there not?”
[8th piece] 17:00 Kitchen / Bottom right
- Things of evidence, result of reasoning, incident at 17:00, and … happened at first.
[9th piece] 17:00 2F corridor / East, lower section
- For one thing, someone also noticed, and watched Sigma and Neon as well.

* Reasoning
?Page 1: Grandmother’s murder
- (Left) Questions concerning Grandmother’s death -> [No one … the poison] *Left + [Himekago Yuriko’s death] *Right -> [No one could have killed] appears
- (Right) Yoshiko, Shizuma and Yuriko’s alibi? -> [Himekago Yuriko’s death] + [Shizuma in the kitchen] *Top or right + [Yoshiko in front of the game room] *Top or right
-> [The suspects’ alibi] appears
* The 3rd darkness automatically whitens and [Inexplicable Grandmother’s death] appears
?Page 2:
- Was the game room where Yuriko was murdered locked? Collect facts relating to the key -> [The door of the game room was locked] + [Yoshiko had the master key] *Both top or left
- Was the game room locked or not? -> [Nene… in the elevator] + [Elevator in the game room]
- (Top right) Bring together the confirmable actions by Yoshiko at time of Shizuma’s murder -> [Nene was not in her room] + [Grandmother’s death, once more…]
-> Get [Was Yoshiko on 2F…?] (Star shape with Yoshiko’s face)
- The question concerning Shizuma’s murder which rises to the surface -> [Shizuma’s death] + [Was Yoshiko on 2F…?]
- Seals that proves the systematical crime of the culprit for killing Shizuma?
-> [Suspended phone] + [Broken radio]
?Page 3: Grandmother’s murder - Motives
- 4 Seals relating to Grandmother, including her death, things of evidence and circumstance -> [Inexplicable Grandmother’s death] + [Sound inside the room] + [Medicine capsule] + [Is Grandmother double personality?]
- Seals indicating the culprit’s motive -> [Kurogami Family crest] + [Photograph found in Grandmother’s room] + [Yuriko’s medical certificate]

The Great Ouma is in Medicine (Ume’s) Room.

chocomog257 · Sep 2, 2008

Hi guys. I've just continued translating the Chapter IV, after some days busy with my part-time job. Maybe some of you have already finished the game, but I'll still share every pieces of info here in case anyone wants 100% complete. <img src="style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="

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Due to some meaning issues with the name of 2F rooms (and also some in-game terms), I have changed some parts of my translations. So sorry if it bothers but GameDragon and Raestloz, please update all of them as I posted below.
Also updated is the reference 2F map for those who found my old translation of the rooms confusing.

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* Flowchart
・Tutorial: Proceed the conversation.
- Mini-battle
- Search (調音査)
- Reasoning using the Seals
・Chapter 1 begins

* Seals [刻音]
[Absent for 50 years] (question mark) & [The butler.... to us] (the butler's face) - After conversation with the butler
[Words that Sigma recited] (Sigma's face) Go to the mansion entrance after talking with the butler
[The ruined mansion] (Black mansion icon) Entering the mansion
[Space distortion] (Lightning shape) After tune searching

* Reasoning [超推理]
Note: Depending on the resulting Seal of the 2nd Darkness of this chapter, the pattern of the reasoning board in Chapter 6 to get S rank will change, indicated by the following Path A and Path B:

1. The things that the butler knows and does not know
Path A: Place [The butler... to us] and [Words that Sigma recited] on the left and lower point.
Path B: Place the same seals, but one of them on the right.
Either way, a new seal [The butler is for real] appears on the board.
2. Seals that refer to the mansion: Place [The ruined mansion]
If Path A is chosen -> [Here is the Kurogami Mansion] (Blue mansion icon) appears
If Path B is chosen -> (Is it the usual place...?) (Red mansion icon) appears
3. What on earth happened at Kurogami Mansion?
Place the remaining two seals: [Space distortion] and [Absent for 50 years]
-> [Event at the mansion] appears.

Chapter 1: The Old Swallow's Poisoning Incident

* Flowchart
・12:00
- After searching the two Soul Shadows, time warp is enabled.
- Go to 11:00 (It doesn't matter if 9:00 is not explored before clearing the chapter)
・11:00
- Search another two Soul Shadows, Reasoning.
- Go to the designated location and defeat the Great Ouma (大逢魔)
・Chapter 1 Complete
・Note that the Job Change ability enabled from Chapter 2 onwards also affects Neon's scripts in this Chapter.

* Seals
・12:00
- [Anyone ... the poison] (Purple tube icon) Living room space
- [The girl who hates tomato] (Tomato) same as above
- [Murderer's notice?] (Red piece of paper) same as above
- [Did the maid kill herself?] (Yuriko's face) Kitchen
・11:00
- [Wine] Kitchen
- [Yoshiko in the kitchen] Kitchen
- [Shizuma in the living room] Living room
- [The maid prepared the meal] (Dining cart) Living room

*Shards of Truth [真実の欠片]
[1st piece] Either 11:00 nearby the cylindrical container in the lower right corner of the kitchen, or 12:00 in the Grand Clock hall, front of the piano.
There isn't any seal at 9:00 but try listening to the conversation at the platform.
[2nd piece] 9:00 Platform/Top left (At the entrance go down near the arrow proceeding to the lower left section of the platform and search for the blue shard in the top left part)
Obaba did not drink wine, so what was poisoned?
[3rd piece] 12:00 Platform/Lower right section at the bottom
Think of different questions like: Is one of the people in the living room the murderer? And did that person put the poison during the meal?
[4th piece] 12:00 Living room /Lower left corner
If the food was not poisoned during the meal, then when did it happen actually? Hint is at 11:00.
[5th piece] 9:00 Garden/Balcony
It is not [because ... drank the poison], but [because ... did not...the...]

* Reasoning
1. Is the murderer one of the people in the living room? -> [Yes]
2. Two Seals contradicting the case if someone committed the crime during the meal
-> [Anyone... the poison] / [Murderer's notice?]
3. Did the murderer poison the food? -> [Yes]
4. The reason why everyone else did not die although the food was poisoned. -> [Wine]
5. Who is the possible murderer? -> [Kurogami Shizuma] (father's face with brown border)
6. What are the Seals proving that Shizuma is the murderer?
-> [Shizuma in the living room] + [Yoshiko in the kitchen] + [Did the maid kill herself?]

* Flowchart
・16:00 - Search for all Soul Shadows
・15:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, 1st Reasoning
- Warp to 17:00 enabled
・17:00
- After the murder event, search the Soul Shadow in Yuriko’s room
- Warp to 18:00 enabled
・18:00
- Search the Soul Shadow at Platform (Southwest) to trigger encounter with the Yuriha
- Search the Soul Shadow in the Living room (South)
- After reasoning, fight the Great Ouma
・Chapter 2 complete

* Seals
・16:00
- [Yuriko’s death] (Yuriko’s face) + [Did not come downstairs from 2F] (red 2F? sign) Receive automatically after the opening scene
- [Yoshiko in the Kitchen] (Knife and fork) - Kitchen
- [Sound from the platform] (Sound icon) - Living room, south
- [Two people playing billiards] (Shizuma and the butler) - Game Room
- [Blood stain above the train] - 2F corridor (South, right of map) Search the red stain easily seen under the bridge
- [Fallen Ivy] (Leaf icon) - 2F corridor (South, right of map) Search the ivy plant near the right exit
・15:00
- [Yuriko went to 2F] (blue 2F icon) Living room, south of map
- [The one who called out is Shizuma] (Shizuma with speech bubble) Shizuma’s room
- [Yoshiko who borrowed the key] (Key) 2F corridor Northeast, lower right
・17:00
- [Yoshiko who unlocked the door] (Yoshiko with the key) 2F corridor Southeast
- [Shizuma … in the secret room] (grayed Shizuma face)+ [Obaba who came running] (Ume with speech bubble) + [The butler who camerunning] (Butler with speech bubble) Yuriko’s room
- [Yoshiko’s scream] (Exclamation mark) + [Obaba’s voice from outside the room] (single speech bubble) Nene’s room
・18:00
[Only Yoshiko passed by] (Yoshiko’s face) + [The two who took a break] (Coffee cup) Living room / South
* After collecting those Seals, do over the Reasoning of Yuriko’s murder and get the correct answer.
* Shards of Truth

[1st piece] 16:00 right under the Soul Shadow in the living room
There are times that you can get Seals by searching apart from the Soul Shadows that are also necessary for Reasoning. At 16:00 there seem to be two of them…
[2nd piece] 15:00 Living room south section, near the stairs
Nene’s intuition is a sharp insight. Reasoning will be easier if we believe rather than try doubting it.
[3rd piece] 15:00 2F corridor, North middle/right section of North
If you can’t see the answer, then maybe viewing everything in a “three-dimensional” way is a good idea.
[4th piece] 15:00 Shizuma’s Room, go upstairs and left
There are three Seals that we can see as unrelated but happened at the same time.
At … hour, …. happened, someone …
[5th piece] 17:00 Take’s room / Left (Take’s room, top right)
Before looking for evidence to deny existence of the secret room, considering how it would be if it was a secret room is another way of thinking.
[6th piece] 15:00 Grand Clock hall, south section, to the right
Without deciding who the culprit is, it is still fine to gather the facts and jump to a conclusion.
[7th piece] 18:00 Kitchen / Top right corner
An incident at 16:00 is trivial, but that is possibly a Seal that reinforces the final Darkness.
[8th piece] 17:00 Garden / Between the two tree trunks
The mystery of Yuriko’s murder lies “above” where she died.

* Notice
- From this chapter onwards the Gods (神霊) and Karmas (業逢魔) will appear on the map. Either Gods or Karmas are quite powerful, so better not encounter them carelessly.
- If the [Gods’ droppings] (神霊の落し物) board in the Reasoning menu is cleared, it is possible to gain a new card.

* Reasoning

Page 1: Yuriko’s murder (1st time)
- Biggest mystery involved in Yuriko’s murder -> [Did not come downstairs from 2F] *Put on either left or above
- Was what Nene said true? -> [Yes]
- The Seal proving this -> [Yuriko went to 2F]
- Seals proving the traces and incidents connected with Yuriko’s murder -> [Blood stain above the train] + [Fallen ivy] + [Sound from the platform]

Page 1: Yuriko’s murder (2nd time after searching for the event at 18:00)
- Biggest mystery involved in Yuriko’s murder -> [Did not come downstairs from 2F] + [Yuriko went to 2F] + [Only Yoshiko passed by] -> [Nene’s truth is the proof] appears
- Seals proving the traces and incidents connected with Yuriko’s murder -> [Blood stain above the train] + [Fallen ivy] + [Sound from the platform]
-> [Dropped from 2F] (man falling down icon) appears

Page 2: Shizuma’s murder
- Biggest mystery involved in Shizuma’s murder -> [Shizuma … in the secret room]
- Is Yuriko’s room the secret one? -> [Yes]
- Seals proving truth of the Secret room -> [Yoshiko who borrowed the key] + [Yoshiko who unlocked the door]
- Is Yoshiko the culprit? -> [No]
- Seals that respectively prove the overturn of Secret room and the incident at the time of Yuriko’s murder -> [Yoshiko in the kitchen] + [The butler who came running] + [The two who took a break] + [Dropped from 2F]

* Flowchart
・18:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows.
- Warp to 19:00 enabled.
・19:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, Reasoning up to the 2nd darkness of Page 2.
- Warp to 20:00 enabled.
・20:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows.
- Warp to 17:00 enabled.
・19:00
- Search for all Soul Shadows, Reasoning.
- Defeat the Great Ouma.
・Chapter 3 Complete
* Seals
・18:00
- [No one … the poison] (Poison tube) After the opening
- [Shizuma in the kitchen] (Shizuma’s face) Kitchen
- [Shizuma’s left arm] (Hand icon) Kitchen, while Neon’s job is Sniper
- [Nene …. in the elevator] (grayed face) Kitchen, search the elevator on top right side near the small chair (invisible Soul Shadow)
- [Sound inside the room] (Door & sound) 2F corridor Northeast
- [The door of the game room was locked] (Key & door) + [Yoshiko had the master key] (Yoshiko & key) + [Yoshiko in front of the game room] (Yoshiko & the door) 2F Corridor / East
・19:00
- [Himekago Yuriko’s death] + [Suspended phone] Game room / South
- [Elevator in the game room] (Knife and fork in elevator) Game room / North (Search for the blue light in the top right corner)
・20:00
- [Broken radio] + [Kurogami Family Crest] + [Shizuma’s death] Platform / Center
- [Nene’s not in her room] (Nene’s face) Nene’s room
- [Yoshiko’s suicide?] (grayed face) Yoshiko’s room
- [Obaba’s death, once more…]] (grayed face) Take’s Room
- [Medicine capsule] Take’s Room (search blue light in top left)
- [Photograph found in Obaba’s room] (picture frame with two people) Take’s Room (search blue light in top right corner)
・17:00
- [Yuriko’s medical certificate] Yuriko’s room After searching the Soul Shadow, get near the bed and search on the wall
- [Is Obaba double personality?] 2F corridor (Northeast)

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 18:00 Grand Clock hall, front of piano
- If we get closer to the game room without searching, there lies an invisible light…
[2nd piece] 18:00 Garden, beside the car
- Three people’s alibi at the time of Obaba’s death - if there are other people who died then those deaths become their alibi…
[3rd piece] 19:00 Butler’s room (2F Southeast)
- Let’s reason from the only fact that the butler from Chapter 2 didn’t appear in Chapter 3.
[4th piece] 19:00 Platform / Left section, Lower right corner
- Whether the key has any link with the secret room or not is big divergence…
[5th piece] 18:00 2F corridor / North, right side
- In a place at 18:00, there are facts able to discover depending on Neon’s status.
*Note: If entering Kitchen with a Card User/Knight then [Nene … in the elevator] and with a Shooter then [Shizuma’s left arm] is available.
[6th piece] 20:00 Yoshiko’s room / Go upstairs, front of desk
- Was Yoshiko’s death suicide or murder? It is possible to catch sight of her appearance as it is at 20:00.
[7th piece] 20:00 Platform, center / next to signal post on the right
- One of the questions concerning Shizuma’s death is, “At that time was there anyone capable of doing the murder? Or was there not?”
[8th piece] 17:00 Kitchen / Lower right
Materials of evidence, result of reasoning, incident at 17:00, and … happened at first.
[9th piece] 17:00 2F corridor / East, lower section
For one thing, someone also noticed, and watched Sigma and Neon as well.

* Reasoning
・Page 1: Obaba’s murder
- (Left) Questions concerning Obaba’s death -> [No one … the poison] *Left + [Himekago Yuriko’s death] *Right -> [No one could have killed] appears
- (Right) Yoshiko, Shizuma and Yuriko’s alibi? -> [Himekago Yuriko’s death] + [Shizuma in the kitchen] *Top or right + [Yoshiko in front of the game room] *Top or right
-> [The suspects’ alibi] appears
* The 3rd darkness automatically whitens and [Inexplicable Obaba’s death] appears
・Page 2:
- Was the game room where Yuriko was murdered locked? Collect facts relating to the key -> [The door of the game room was locked] + [Yoshiko had the master key] *Both top or left
- Was the game room locked or not? -> [Nene… in the elevator] + [Elevator in the game room]
- (Top right) Bring together the confirmable actions by Yoshiko at time of Shizuma’s murder -> [Nene was not in her room] + [Obaba’s death, once more…]
-> Get [Was Yoshiko on 2F…?] (Star shape with Yoshiko’s face)
- The question concerning Shizuma’s murder which rises to the surface -> [Shizuma’s death] + [Was Yoshiko on 2F…?]
- Seals that proves the systematical crime of the culprit for killing Shizuma? -> [Suspended phone] + [Broken radio]
・Page 3: Obaba’s murder - Motives
- 4 Seals relating to Obaba, including her death, things of evidence and circumstance -> [Inexplicable Obaba’s death] + [Sound inside the room] + [Medicine capsule] + [Is Obaba double personality?]
- Seals indicating the culprit’s motive -> [Kurogami Family crest] + [Photograph found in Obaba’s room] + [Yuriko’s medical certificate]

The Great Ouma is in Take’s Room.

* Flowchart
・16:00
- Search for Soul Shadows
- Warp to 15:00 enabled.
・15:00
- Search for Soul Shadows
- Warp to 14:00 and 17:00 enabled.
・14:00
Search for Soul Shadows
・17:00
- Search for Soul Shadows
- Reasoning, after spinning time at Grand Clock (whichever hour is OK) defeat Dickson.
・Chapter 4 Complete

* Seals
・16:00
- [Head of the Kurogami’s death] (Shizuma’s gray face) Grand Clock Hall
- [Maid’s death] (Yuriko’s gray face) Kitchen
- [Yuu’s death] (boy’s gray face) Garden
- [Yoshiko’s death] + [Is Yoshiko’s room locked?] (Yoshiko & door) + [Dropped key] (Key) Yoshiko’s room
- [Butler’s death] Butler’s room
- [Rin’s mother’s death] (Fuyou’s face) Game room
- [Take’s death] (Take, facing right) Take’s room
- [Obaba’s death] (Ume, facing left) Ume’s room
- Take’s room / Search for blue light at the lower right corner. (If search the Soul Shadow in the room at 15:00 first, when searching this light, receive [Herbal medicine made by Take]

・15:00
- [The two who killed Great Ouma] (Butler + Yuriko) Automatically received after warping to 15:00
- [Nene and Yuu] Garden
- [Shizuma’s feeling of doubt] (Shizuma + Question mark) Shizuma’s room
- [Herbal medicine made by Take] Take’s room (Only if having searched the light at 16:00 before. If not, only conversation is shown)
- [Talk between Fuyou and Yoshiko] Guest room
- Search for the blue light - Door inside Game room / South

・14:00
- [Talk between Yoshiko and Yuriko] Kitchen
- [The butler … from Obaba] Ume’s room
- [Talk between Shizuma and Fuyou] + [Butler’s eavesdropping] Living room
- [Talk between Yuu and Nene] (Nene + Door) Yuu’s room
- [The butler who borrowed the key] Yoshiko’s room / Upstairs
- [The butler who stole a glance at the telegram] (Gold telegram) Guest room

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 15:00 Garden / Left of bench
It is the situation in which the ‘condition’ strangely did not occur as murder that was the death which must have been set at first.
[2nd piece] 15:00 Game room / South, lower right corner
(Both of the terms) meant criminal, but the thing which can prove their difference is that - with only the meanings being different, in the same place…
[3rd piece] 14:00 Grand Clock hall / Left
In this incident [short time] of the crime is the keyword; don’t let go of Shizuma and Rin’s questions.
[4th piece] 15:00 Shizuma’s room / Upstairs, on desk
From medicine book - Rigor mortis: A phenomenon in which muscles of the dead body become rigid because of exhaust of ATP.
[5th piece] 14:00 Shizuma’s room / Upstairs, on desk
From medicine book - Rigor mortis: Some hours after death the rigidity starts and lasts for about 30 hours, then gradually loosens the body.
[6th piece] 17:00 Platform / Lower right
An important answer is hidden in one thing Yuriha Rin found on 1F.
[7th piece] 14:00 Nene’s room / Lower right
The hint for (6) is also hidden within (4) and (5).
[8th piece] 17:00 Living room, small table opposite dining table
Key to the mystery that overrules the incident lies in someone’s conversation and contradiction of a matter.

* Reasoning
・Page 1:
- In the case of murder, whose death can be considered impossible at a glance? -> [Yoshiko’s death]
- Is Yoshiko the murderer? -> [No]
- Seals proving Yoshiko not being the murderer? -> [Is Yoshiko’s room locked?] + [Dropped bunch of keys] + [The butler who borrowed the key]
・Page 2:
- In a short time of murder, whose death feels unusual? -> [Head of the Kurogami’s death] + [Rin’s mother’s death] + [Maid’s death] * Put at the bottom
- The 2 Seals that contains incompatibility before and after the incident -> [Herbal medicine made by Take] + [Talk between Yoshiko and Yuriko]
- Key to the riddle that lies in the root of the incident -> [Talk between Fuyou and Yoshiko] + [The butler who stole a glance at the telegram]

Raestloz · Sep 3, 2008

Updated, thanks for the great work!

chocomog257 · Sep 3, 2008

I've just finished Chapter 3 Versus. Done Chapter IV before so the battles were rather easy. Just beware of the Karma which usually does the nasty Damage 75%

* Flowchart
?18:00-17:00
- Search all Soul Shadows
- Warp to 19:00 enabled
?19:00
- Search all Soul Shadows
- Reasoning, defeat Great Ouma
?Chapter 3 VS complete

* Seals
?18:00
- [Yuriko’s findings] (Yuriko and ! mark) After the opening
- [Talk between the butler and Yoshiko] 2F corridor / Southwest
?17:00
- [Tea party] (Tea container?) Garden
- [Shizuma’s death] Shizuma’s room
?19:00
- [Obaba’s witness] Garden
- [Action after gun report] (Man running) + [The butler’s room is…] (Door + key) 2F corridor / Southeast (North of map)
- [Bloodstain] 2F corridor Southeast / Search the blood stain at door to the Butler’s room
- [The butler’s dead body] + [Master key] Butler’s room

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 18:00 Grand Clock hall / Behind piano
Firstly, try watching all of the replays at two points of time.
[2nd piece] 17:00 Game room / Front of roulette machine
Shizuma was called for and then murdered. Seems like the murderer intentionally thought of carrying something…
[3rd piece] 17:00 2F corridor South / Entrance to Southeast passage
In order to tune to perfection, wiping out all the darkness is needed.
[4th piece] 18:00 Take’s room / Bamboo tree on the left
The “talk” between the butler and Yoshiko at 18:00 has nothing unnatural but…
[5th piece] 19:00 Butler’s room
19:00, corridor. Try searching the thing that Obaba and Nene saw.
[6th piece] 19:00 Guest room
[7th piece] 19:00 Platform / Right section
The reason why serious Yuriko did not appear to clean up after tea party is…

*Reasoning

?Page 1: Shizuma and the butler’s murder
- (Top) Shizuma’s state of death -> Put on left and right [Yuriko’s findings] + [Shizuma’s death] * [Silent gunshot] appears at bottom
- (Middle) Butler’s state of death -> Top [Butler’s dead body] + Right [The butler’s room is…] + Bottom [Action after gun report] * [Echoed gun report] appears on the left and [Different gun reports] received
- (Bottom) Clue to the locked room mystery -> [Bloodstain]

?Page 2:
- Period of time of Yuriko’s death -> Right [YES] -> [Yuriko died before gunshot] appears
- If the maid was murdered then which seal contradicts? ->Right [Obaba’s witness]
- Seals proving the truth hidden behind contradiction -> Bottom [Different gun reports]
* [Murderer’s intention] appears right
- Seals supporting the action that leads the person to being thought as murderer ->[Yoshiko] + [Talk between butler and Yoshiko]

* Go to Shizuma’s room to defeat the Great Ouma.

Mei-o · Sep 4, 2008

First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate the effort put to this, but I just don't see the point of playing this game, a game that has emphasis on story and mystery(

), when you can't understand anything written on screen, it's like you're playing it just because it's by Square-Enix, not because it has an interesting story or anything, it just doesn't seem right...

chocomog257 · Sep 4, 2008

If you don't find it interesting, then why don't you just ignore this topic?
Yeah, I play it also because it's from SE, but I can understand Japanese at a reasonable level to keep up with the story. (Don't know if you're really Japanese or not but I'm a foreigner)

My translation of the walkthrough is not an arrangement of jumbled words created by Babelfish - it takes me some hours to play each chapter of the game, at the same time confirming the details and choosing the right word to type down here.

When people wants to play a game just because the graphics or gameplay intrigues them, then that's their point. The story also works for me though.
What you said is a matter of personal preference so I'll stop at that.

Mei-o · Sep 5, 2008

Ugh, I was obviously talking about those who can't understand a thing yet they still play a game with emphasis on story and has a lot of text, it's one of SH's main selling points, the fact that it's supposed to have a good story and it's also a mix of mystery and RPG, finishing it only by following a walkthrough and not having a clue about what the hell is going takes out the fun in it, the fun in mystery games is figuring out the answer to the mystery/solution yourself.

PS: It's like playing an Ace Attorney game without understanding anything.
PPS: I said I appreciate the effort.

chocomog257 · Sep 5, 2008

Hehe, I just don't know if you're saying it's uninteresting to you or to other folks out there. XD Sorry if I turned you off ^^

Though I said I understood most of the game, it's still a bit difficult for me to solve the cases by myself, especially when I can't read the texts as fast as a normal Japanese. The images and animation cutscenes are also a problem... you can't notice all the details at once ('?`?) I'd rather hit my head onto the desk than watch the same event sequences all over again just to find the slightest clue. Leveling up and gaining SP are time consuming already.

Mystery games are not brain-friendly after all ;___; How about you?

ps. I'm in the middle of Chapter 5. Don't know until when I can get the final 3 job upgrades... you know the last ??? form costs 999 SP. And the Death chapter also seems like an optional hyper-difficult side quest that you feel obliged to complete

DarkSwordman · Sep 6, 2008

_Unmei_ said:
First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate the effort put to this, but I just don't see the point of playing this game, a game that has emphasis on story and mystery(

), when you can't understand anything written on screen, it's like you're playing it just because it's by Square-Enix, not because it has an interesting story or anything, it just doesn't seem right...

Haha, then why are there so many people playing Inazuma Eleven or Soma Bringer. I don't want to start a fight but sometimes people play the game because they like it not for any specific reason

Raestloz · Sep 6, 2008

Well, I can't say anything anymore, my topic has drowned

, can't salvage it...... sorry.....

chocomog257 · Sep 6, 2008

Two more chapters to go. Here's Chapter V, critical point of the mystery.

EDIT: I've finished Chapter 6 so fast, surprisingly. So there's only Death Chapter left ^^

* Flowchart
?19:00 - Search all Soul Shadows, go to 20:00
?20:00 - Search all Soul Shadows, go to 21:00
?21:00 - Search the Soul Shadows in Living room and Yuu’s room, warp to 22:00
?22:00 - Search all Soul Shadows, warp to 23:00
?23:00 - Search all Soul Shadows, Reasoning. Go to Grand Clock hall to warp to any time and defeat the boss.
?Chapter 5 Complete

* Seals
?19:00
- [Poisoned Obaba] + [As for the poison, no one…]
- [Strangled Take] + [Not seeing the butler] (butler + ? mark) + [Ume … toTake’s death] (Ume’s face) Take’s room
- [Bare cord] Take’s room / Small lamp on the right, front of medicine shelf (Note that there is no blue light)
- [Died butler] + [Conversation at the garden] (Speech bubble) + [Yuu ran away] Garden
- [Broken engine room] Platform
- [Nene who protects Yuu] (Yuu & Nene) Yuu’s room
?20:00
- [Yoshiko’s scream in living room] (Yoshiko + !) Living room / South
- [Three people met at corridor] 2F corridor / Northeast (North)
- [Yuriko in front of Game room] (Yuriko + door) + [Fuyou who brought the key] 2F East (North)
- [Yoshiko killed in locked room] Game room / North
- [Nene who saw Rin’s mother] (Nene + shadow) + [Yuu and Nene’s alibi] (with sound icon) + [Two people’s words are suspicious] (? speech bubble) Yuu’s room
?21:00
- [Nene who sent the paper spirit](Paper crane) 2F corridor / North
- [Disappeared Yuu] Yuu’s room
- [Succeed the name of Yuzuriha] (Rin) Living room / South
?22:00
- [Rin’s mother found …] (Rin + !) Game room
- [Nene’s calm death] Nene’s room
?23:00
- [Shizuma beaten to death] + [Yuriko in the train] (Foot shape?) Platform (center)
- [Finally dead Rin] + [Remaining letter] Shizuma’s room

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 19:00 Take’s room / Beside bed
Considering those who were murdered in order is a way by which we can find out who could have committed the crime, but…
[2nd piece] 19:00 2F Southwest / Near small bush
One of the first three murders that should be noticed is Take’s death. Important information concerning this is in her room…
[3rd piece] 19:00 Kitchen / Left
During the conversation at the garden, it was also implied that …. had died before…
[4th piece] 19:00 Grand Clock hall / Piano
For Rin, being a detective, such things as a total lie never exists. Don’t suspect Rin ; get hold of the situation.
[5th piece] 22:00 Game room / Right below the Soul Shadow
As for the alibi there is no trick, nor is there any lies behind the Sound Seals.
[6th piece] 20:00 2F corridor West (Stairs)
(In this chapter) There is one fact that greatly differs from that of Chapter 3. Try calmly thinking about it.
[7th piece] 21:00 2F corridor / South (around the place having switched to the left screen)
There is one death in which the murder’s motives and intents are exposed.
[8th piece] 22:00 Grand Clock hall / Left of lower screen, foot of the gate looking like torii (Shinto shrine arch)
Is the letter that Rin left his dying message? There is no lies or trick in it either…
[9th piece] 23:00 Shizuma’s room, at feet of bear ornaments
There is one possibility which is the simplest in this incident. That taken into account, if follow the darkness…

* Reasoning
?Page 1: The first three murders
- (Left) The first death -> [Died butler]
- (Middle) 2nd incident -> [Poisoned Obaba]
- (Right) 3rd incident -> [Strangled Take]
- Seals relating to the 1st murder
-> [Not seeing the butler] *Top + [Conversation at the garden] *Right
- Seals relating to the 2nd incident
-> [No one … the poison] *Top + [Ume … toTake’s death] *Right
- Seals relating to the 3rd incident -> [Bare cord]
-> Get [Anyone could have been the murderer]

?Page 2: About Yoshiko’s murder
- (Top) The mistake in proving the existence of locked room -> [Two people’s words are suspicious] *Top + [Fuyou who brought the key] *Left
- (Middle) The two events proving the locked room -> (Yuriko in front of the game room) *Bottom
- (Bottom) The three alibis connected with the time of Yoshiko’s murder
-> [Yoshiko’s scream in living room] + [Nene who saw Rin’s mother]

?Page 3: About the rest of incidents
- Is the murder who died halfway through? -> [No]
- (Left) Seals that hints at the murderer’s motives
-> [Rin found his mother…] *Right + [Succeed the name of Yuzuriha]
- (Right) The two deaths and one evidence necessary to narrow down the possible murderer
-> [Finally dead Rin] + [The remaining letter]

* Flowchart
?Unknown location (Kurogami Mansion)
- Go to Grand Clock hall, event triggers
- Go back to living room, event triggers
- Go to platform, event triggers
?Unknown location (Hanenobashi Train/Maroudo Train)
- After battle event, go along the only path
- Towards the end of the path, after event trigger Reasoning screen appears.
- After event, go along the only path again to battle the Great Ouma
- Proceed further to trigger event
?Road to the End
- Head inside, after triggering event save at the last screen
- 2 mini battles -> Boss fight
?Ending

* Reasoning
?1st line
- (Left) Who is the one Yuzuriha Rin said as “originally should have died?” -> [Yuu] *Right
- (Middle) Considering the events from the past until now, by correct Reasoning who are the two people that had been neither the suspect nor the murderer? -> [Nene] *Right
?(Bottom right) Who masterminded the history change plot? -> [Yuzuriha Rin] *Top
?(4th line, right) Who are the three characters that caused the change of time?
-> [Dickson] + [Christie] *Both either left or below
?(Bottom left) Through the events from the past until now, who had been sure to lose his/her own life, if viewing the incidents towards the end? -> [Himekago Yuriko] *Right
?(4th line, left) The incidents that happened at the very beginning in Kurogami Mansion
-> [Here is Kurogami Mansion] or [Is it the usual place… ?] (depending on the reasoning of Prelude) + [Event at the mansion] *Both either top or right

FYI, here is my Reasoning board.
N.B. The red mansion icon on the left can be either red or blue, depending on what you chose in the beginning.

Raestloz · Sep 12, 2008

oohh.. keep it up my friend!

chocomog257 · Sep 13, 2008

Finally all S-rank cleared

Enjoy the fun out of this Level grinding chapter ^^

Here is my fully compiled translation of the story guide:

[title

eath Chapter: Mask of Terror]
* Flowchart
?14:00-15:00
- Mage compatible.
- Search all Seals, Reasoning
- Go to Game room at 14:00 for boss fight.
- Warp to 16:00 and 17:00 enabled

?16:00-17:00
- Sniper compatible.
- Collect all necessary Seals and Reason.
- After 2nd reasoning, go to Yoshiko’s room at 16:00 for boss fight
- After 3rd reasoning, go to Guest room at 17:00 for boss fight
- After 4th reasoning, go to Shizuma’s room at 16:00 for boss fight
- After defeating all 3 bosses, warp to 13-18-19-20:00 enabled.

?13-18-19-20:00
- Sword Knight compatible.
- Collect all necessary Seals and Reason.
- After 5th reasoning, go to Take’s room at 18:00 for boss fight
- After 6th reasoning, go to Garden at 19:00 for boss fight
- After 7th reasoning, go to Storehouse at 20:00 for boss fight
- After 8th reasoning, go to Ume’s room at 13:00 for boss fight
- After defeating all 4 bosses, warp to 21:00 enabled.

?21:00
- Collect all necessary Seals and Reason.
- Go to Platform (East) for boss fight.

?Death Chapter Complete

* About Fury Assault
In Death Chapter, each point of time is compatible to a job, and if the job you set is incompatible the monsters’ (particularly those carrying SP) attack will change from the normal Magic Attack to Fury Assault, dealing much greater damage to a specific job.
Especially when the boss battles often include these monsters which can be annoyance, it is safer to keep the job suited to the time.
Refer to the above Flowchart to choose the best job for each time zone.

* How to take down strong enemies
Often players want to defeat the Death Chapter bosses but can’t stand the troublesome level grinding. It is because while the solution to each mystery of this chapter is simpler than other chapters, the monsters’ strength drastically increases. Many people usually get screwed by having the card line gauge slowed down or stopped by monsters’ tricky moves, therefore not able to make it in time to Heal.

So a strategy has been developed to defeat monsters before getting caught in their Slow / Stop moves, which is easy to follow.

-The most essential thing needed is Auto Combat (Mouse) card, which we can obtain after the first playthrough with all chapters (except Death) ranked A or up. Without this we can’t use this useful strategy.
- Job and battle music settings
Job choice is not limited to anything (provided that it doesn’t prevent the use of Mouse card), and the music should be chosen according to which line has the Auto Combat command, which means speed of that line has to be max (5). Also the speed of the other line that has special attack commands (like Wide Death - Monkey, Death - Swan or Stop - Bull) should also be as high as 3 or 4.
E.g.: If you choose the Sword Lady Lv.3 job (Machine card) with Auto Combat in the 1st line, then the music cards which has the max speed for the line are Rabbit, Snake, Horse, Monkey, and Swan (or Chicken). The Rabbit card is for Healing so using it for the music is not really a safe bet. So the Horse card is a good choice, since the 2nd line that includes Wide Death has a speed of 4.

After meeting all of these requirements, you can now make use of the chain attack strategy. The main point of this tactic is combining Auto attack and another line, taking enemies’ time as well as saving time for the remaining line.
- (1st combo) Take the first blow from the enemy and immediately use Auto attack right when its line is filled. Auto attack lasts for 3 turns, so before the 3 turns end use the 2nd fast line. This saves time for the remaining line and delay enemies’ moves.
- (2nd combo) After the combo ends, immediately use the Auto Combat (which should come up then) again and before its 3rd turn ends use the remaining (slowest) line.
- Repeat the 1st and 2nd combo chain. Loop until taking down all enemies.
By this way, it is possible to defeat all monsters, including boss battles and even Karmas.

( ! ) An exception is the boss at 20:00, which use Evil Sonata (music change) right from the 1st move thus prevents us from using the chain attack strategy. For the beginning of this battle, use Auto Recover / Regen (Machine card) wisely, throwing some attacks in between. Endure the boss’ attacks until the music returns to normal and use the above strategy to finish off.

* Seals
?15:00
- [Nene’s body] + [Rin’s question] After the opening
- [Talk between Fuyou and Rin] Guest room
- [Yoshiko’s findings] Game room (North)

?14:00
- [Talk between Nene and butler] + [Rin’s lost article] Living room
- [Butler’s shadow] Game room (North)

?16:00
- [Yoshiko’s mutter] 2F West (North)
- [Yoshiko’s death] Yoshiko’s room / Inside

?17:00
- [Shizuma’s action] Yoshiko’s room (Front)
- [Butler’s button] Yoshiko’s room (Inside) / Search the blue light near the stairs
- [Fuyou’s death] Guest room

?13:00
- [Ume’s body] + [Take’s action] + [Butler’s action] Ume’s room
- [Talk between Fuyou and Yuriko] Guest room

?18:00
- [Yuu’s secret] Garden
- [Master key] Garden / Search the blue light left of Soul Shadow
- [Locked door] + [Broken key] 2F Northeast (North)

?19:00
- [Yuu frightened by butler] Living room
- [Yuu’s body] Garden
- [Take’s body] Take’s room

?20:00
- [Yuriko’s death] Storehouse
- [Rope stained with blood] Storehouse / Search the jar on the left, viewing front (no blue light)
- [Yuriko’s findings] Butler’s room

?21:00
- [Shizuma’s death] Platform / East
- [Last task] Butler’s room

* Shards of Truth
[1st piece] 14:00 Take’s room / Cushion in the front
Seals needed for solving Nene’s mystery are those that show the character present at the scene of murder and the reason why Nene went to game room.
[2nd piece] 16:00 2F East (South)
Clue to Yoshiko’s murder is in the scene of incident at 17:00.
[3rd piece] 17:00 2F South (West) Left pillar
Fuyou’s questioning the butler is related to another time. The situation is obtained from…
[4th piece] 17:00 Butler’s room / Right gramophone
Rin is killed at ….’s room. Coming out of the room is…
[5th piece] 18:00 Yuriko’s room / Bedside
Proofs needed for Take’s death mystery includes two which show things and one which indicates the situation.
[6th piece] 19:00 Shizuma’s room / North (Left edge)
Yuu was killed, because he was warned by … about …
[7th piece] 20:00 Platform / Center (Left)
To clear up Yuriko’s mystery, all we need to do is put Yuriko’s action in order naturally.
[8th piece] 13:00 Kitchen / Left
The weapon which was used for Ume’s murder was found by …, and hidden in …
[9th piece] 21:00 Grand Clock hall / South (Floor)
The result of the final mystery is connected with those of the rest. If still unable to solve, think over them one by one.

*Reasoning

?Page 1: Nene’s death
Nene’s murder happened because of the butler. Seals that prove this crime ->[Butler’s shadow] + [Talk between Nene and butler]

?Page 2: Yoshiko’s death
Was it actually the butler who killed Yoshiko? Proof of this -> [Butler’s button]
?Page 3: Fuyou’s words
What was Fuyou going to ask the butler? Proofs showing the situation Fuyou sees through -> [Rin’s question] + [Talk between Rin and Fuyou]

?Page 4: Rin’s death
It was not the butler who killed Rin. Which seals reveal the truth about the incident?
-> [Yoshiko’s mutter] + [Yoshiko’s findings]

?Page 5: Locked room murder
Was Take’s room not locked? Put the seals that solves the locked room mystery.
-> [Master key] + [Broken key] + [Butler’s action]

?Page 6: Yuu’s death
Proofs showing the start of Yuu’s death -> [Yuu’s secret] + [Yuu frightened by butler]

?Page 7: Yuriko’s conviction
Proofs revealing the cause for which Yuriko finds the truth about the incident
-> [Take’s body] + [Yuriko’s findings]

?Page 8: Weapon used in Ume’s murder
Where is the weapon used for killing Ume? Find it out and place the proof.
-> [Bloodstained rope]

?Page 9: Completed Serial Murder
The serial murder at Kurogami Mansion concluded. Proof stating the ringleader -> [Last task]

Raestloz · Sep 16, 2008

So, the guide has finally ended?

Well, I'm glad

Finlly I can finish this game off

Edit: It seems like I'm the last people to care for this topic

I've updated my topic one last time

Damn, where's GameDragon when we need him? And, I'm going to borrow your sig, to link to my guide, I'm going to close it...

Mei-o · Sep 17, 2008

DarkSwordman said:
_Unmei_ said:

First of all, I would like to say that I appreciate the effort put to this, but I just don't see the point of playing this game, a game that has emphasis on story and mystery(

), when you can't understand anything written on screen, it's like you're playing it just because it's by Square-Enix, not because it has an interesting story or anything, it just doesn't seem right...

Click to expand...

Haha, then why are there so many people playing Inazuma Eleven or Soma Bringer. I don't want to start a fight but sometimes people play the game because they like it not for any specific reason

Uhm, because you don't really need to read a lot of Japanese to be able to play those games? Common sense, ever heard of it? *sigh* It's a wonder I still haven't given up on the human race.

chocomog and that guy: You both totally missed my point.

Congrats with the guide anyway.

Daizu · Apr 11, 2010

Thanks for the guide, it really helps a lot.

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