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yeah i got the r4 about a year and a half ago? the price was ok $50 CAD and it came with a 1gig sandisk. yeah it may not be fancy, and it does freeze from time to time. but it runs all my roms and homebrews flawless, and i'm fairly satisfied with it. though if it breaks, i'll be looking into a cyclods or something
 

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NeSchn said:
We hate because:
1. Its over priced for its complete lack of features.
2. Its just out of date, there are new ones out there.

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da_head said:
NeSchn said:
We hate because:
1. Its over priced for its complete lack of features.
2. Its just out of date, there are new ones out there.

*W00t 800th post!*

agreed.

100TH POST BOO YA

no i didn't do it JUST for my 100th post
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ok fine i did. >.<

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Well, then see how it feels to have almost a thousand posts!

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i don't since i paid 40 for it plus 1gb and it offered all i need playing games,hombrew,music,videos etc..
 

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Most people I know replaces the term "flashcart" with "R4" and it's so annoying, like as if the R4 is the ONLY flashcart.

I don't hate the R4, I just hate when people get misleading or outdated information and then pass it on to more people.
 

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ben_not_benny said:
Most people I know replaces the term "flashcart" with "R4" and it's so annoying, like as if the R4 is the ONLY flashcart.

I don't hate the R4, I just hate when people get misleading or outdated information and then pass it on to more people.
so true

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ben_not_benny said:
Most people I know replaces the term "flashcart" with "R4" and it's so annoying, like as if the R4 is the ONLY flashcart.

Yea thats exactly on the point.

This is what happened when i showed my friends my flashcard
Friend:Hey whats that?
Me:Its a flashcard for my ds
Friend:????
Me:Its like a R4
Friend:Oo....
 

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There are no real good reasons to hate the R4, the real reason is that its the "cool" thing to do. Its considered hip to attack it and people go along with the crowd to go with the in crowd. The r4 is a beast, it does what it is designed to do, and does it flawlessly. OMFG IT DUZNT HAEV SLOW MO ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND OVARPRICE'D- shut uppa your face. The r4 if anything is like the father of all flash carts, and as such, many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom. oops.
 

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ca82686 said:
There are no real good reasons to hate the R4, the real reason is that its the "cool" thing to do. Its considered hip to attack it and people go along with the crowd to go with the in crowd. The r4 is a beast, it does what it is designed to do, and does it flawlessly. OMFG IT DUZNT HAEV SLOW MO ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND OVARPRICE'D- shut uppa your face. The r4 if anything is like the father of all flash carts, and as such, many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom. oops.
Just like the iPod i guess...People buy the R4 and iPod since everyone has it. There are better products which are cheaper out there.
Btw, How do you look "cool" with a R4?
 

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ca82686 said:
There are no real good reasons to hate the R4, the real reason is that its the "cool" thing to do. Its considered hip to attack it and people go along with the crowd to go with the in crowd. The r4 is a beast, it does what it is designed to do, and does it flawlessly. OMFG IT DUZNT HAEV SLOW MO ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND OVARPRICE'D- shut uppa your face. The r4 if anything is like the father of all flash carts, and as such, many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom. oops.
Are you kidding me!? Would you buy a 1G ipod nano when you could buy a 3G ipod nano for less?




Exactly
 

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ca82686 said:
There are no real good reasons to hate the R4, the real reason is that its the "cool" thing to do. Its considered hip to attack it and people go along with the crowd to go with the in crowd. The r4 is a beast, it does what it is designed to do, and does it flawlessly. OMFG IT DUZNT HAEV SLOW MO ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND OVARPRICE'D- shut uppa your face. The r4 if anything is like the father of all flash carts, and as such, many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom. oops.
Hahaha. No good reason? That's a pretty bad argument. That's funny. The R4 may have been a beast awhile back, now it's overrated, and are full of fanboys, or people like you.

I was going to get a R4 when I first discovered about flashkarts. I, too, thought it was the only one available. But then, I heard about the new M3 real (Mind you, this was in November 07.). Then I did some research, and found out that there are a lot of other carts out there. And why didn't I choose the R4? First of all, it had no SDHC support. Don't tell me to "Buy multiple micro sds, idiot". What you may want isn't the same with millions of people out there. SINCE ONE PERSON WANTS 2 GIGS, THEN EVERYONE MUST WANT 2 GIGS TOO. Secondly, There just were cheaper carts out there. Back then, even the M3 real was cheaper than the R4. I didn't care for support, features, etc. I just wanted to play games, and nothing more. Yet, in my research, it pointed out that R4 was at a dying age. It was good while it lasted, but it was time to let go.

And another thing. Let me give you an example. Would you buy a R4 at 39.99, or a better cart, that lets you do more than it for 23 dollars? The answer is pretty obvious isn't it? What? You'd buy a R4?

And is it really hip to attack the R4? No. Only an idiot would say that. That's like saying it's hip to attack the Ipods. I don't like ipods much, because all the other good players get neglected because of it. All my friends believe it's the only mp3 available, and come up with idiotic statements that barely counts as an argument, or even any evidence to prove me wrong. Yet, if I come up with a good reason why there are better players out there, they just ignore me, and say the same thing. Hell, they never even touched a different player, yet, that's what they say. Stupid, if you ask me. Either way, all I'm just trying to do is to prove them, and prove that Ipods are inferior.

Same thing with R4s. Everyone tells me it's the only cart available. I have to explain what a supercard is, etc. And they neglect them still, for the same reason.

And you sound like if you refuse to buy anything new. "I bought a cpu when it first came out. But it's better because it's the father of all computers. OMFG IT DOESN'T HAVE OVER 34 MBs OF RAM ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND USELESS. Shut uppa your face. If the first cpu is the father of computers, then many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom.".

In short, you're nothing but a fanboy.
 

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ojsinnerz said:
ca82686 said:
There are no real good reasons to hate the R4, the real reason is that its the "cool" thing to do. Its considered hip to attack it and people go along with the crowd to go with the in crowd. The r4 is a beast, it does what it is designed to do, and does it flawlessly. OMFG IT DUZNT HAEV SLOW MO ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND OVARPRICE'D- shut uppa your face. The r4 if anything is like the father of all flash carts, and as such, many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom. oops.
Hahaha. No good reason? That's a pretty bad argument. That's funny. The R4 may have been a beast awhile back, now it's overrated, and are full of fanboys, or people like you.

I was going to get a R4 when I first discovered about flashkarts. I, too, thought it was the only one available. But then, I heard about the new M3 real (Mind you, this was in November 07.). Then I did some research, and found out that there are a lot of other carts out there. And why didn't I choose the R4? First of all, it had no SDHC support. Don't tell me to "Buy multiple micro sds, idiot". What you may want isn't the same with millions of people out there. SINCE ONE PERSON WANTS 2 GIGS, THEN EVERYONE MUST WANT 2 GIGS TOO. Secondly, There just were cheaper carts out there. Back then, even the M3 real was cheaper than the R4. I didn't care for support, features, etc. I just wanted to play games, and nothing more. Yet, in my research, it pointed out that R4 was at a dying age. It was good while it lasted, but it was time to let go.

And another thing. Let me give you an example. Would you buy a R4 at 39.99, or a better cart, that lets you do more than it for 23 dollars? The answer is pretty obvious isn't it? What? You'd buy a R4?

And is it really hip to attack the R4? No. Only an idiot would say that. That's like saying it's hip to attack the Ipods. I don't like ipods much, because all the other good players get neglected because of it. All my friends believe it's the only mp3 available, and come up with idiotic statements that barely counts as an argument, or even any evidence to prove me wrong. Yet, if I come up with a good reason why there are better players out there, they just ignore me, and say the same thing. Hell, they never even touched a different player, yet, that's what they say. Stupid, if you ask me. Either way, all I'm just trying to do is to prove them, and prove that Ipods are inferior.

Same thing with R4s. Everyone tells me it's the only cart available. I have to explain what a supercard is, etc. And they neglect them still, for the same reason.

And you sound like if you refuse to buy anything new. "I bought a cpu when it first came out. But it's better because it's the father of all computers. OMFG IT DOESN'T HAVE OVER 34 MBs OF RAM ITS SO OLD AND OUTDATED AND USELESS. Shut uppa your face. If the first cpu is the father of computers, then many rebellious types don't like their dads for some reason, didn't take them fishing enough or something, but this dad can still beat any other dad, just like your mom.".

In short, you're nothing but a fanboy.
Have a Beer!!
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I own a R4DS too, for a little over a year now. I got a great deal when I bought it, esp. if you compare prices in Holland.

What amazes me, is, reading through all the replies in this thread, the fact that people complain about mSDHC not being supported. I won't say it isn't great to have support for mSDHC, but does one really need 2GB+? For example, I'm only playing Ace Attorney, Picross, Final Fantasy and The World Ends With You at the moment. This is about 200MB or so, I guess?
 

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Im happy with my R4,but ordered the Supercard DS one a couple of days back,mainly for more homebrew support and that fact it's got real-time cheats/saving and you can check guides DURING THE GAME!
 

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the R4 was good now it sucks no support what soever from the developers other than a few game compatibility updates it doesnt have features youd expect such as wii connectivity compatibility

i am now waiting on the Cyclo DS Evolution to come into stock so i can buy that then i shall sell my R4 to an unsuspecting friend
 

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Murdock said:
I own a R4DS too, for a little over a year now. I got a great deal when I bought it, esp. if you compare prices in Holland.

What amazes me, is, reading through all the replies in this thread, the fact that people complain about mSDHC not being supported. I won't say it isn't great to have support for mSDHC, but does one really need 2GB+? For example, I'm only playing Ace Attorney, Picross, Final Fantasy and The World Ends With You at the moment. This is about 200MB or so, I guess?
Well, you are missing the point of having a flashcart as a media center too!!
I like watching movies on my NDS, I like to have ability to listen to some songs, I like having many many games (for every mood I'm in), I like to have many GBA games on it (and some GB, GBC games, some emulators)..
Take all this, and my 4 GB are not enough!! If you just use flash cart to play NDS games, 512 MB would be enough..but some people want more, I'm looking forward to 32 GB microSD when they develop it..
It's just the matter of taste, and what do you look in flashcart and NDS usage..
 

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Toni Plutonij said:
Murdock said:
I own a R4DS too, for a little over a year now. I got a great deal when I bought it, esp. if you compare prices in Holland.

What amazes me, is, reading through all the replies in this thread, the fact that people complain about mSDHC not being supported. I won't say it isn't great to have support for mSDHC, but does one really need 2GB+? For example, I'm only playing Ace Attorney, Picross, Final Fantasy and The World Ends With You at the moment. This is about 200MB or so, I guess?
Well, you are missing the point of having a flashcart as a media center too!!
I like watching movies on my NDS, I like to have ability to listen to some songs, I like having many many games (for every mood I'm in), I like to have many GBA games on it (and some GB, GBC games, some emulators)..
Take all this, and my 4 GB are not enough!! If you just use flash cart to play NDS games, 512 MB would be enough..but some people want more, I'm looking forward to 32 GB microSD when they develop it..
It's just the matter of taste, and what do you look in flashcart and NDS usage..

hmm i guess. but i have like 14 games on mine, 70 songs, and usually 7 or 8 anime episodes at a time and my 2gig isn't full. to each his own i suppose.
 

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Just for example..
I have 26 games, 6 music albums, 4 .dpg movies (each over 300 MB-great quality), two eBooks, some pictures, 40 GBA games (I never add or remove any GBA games, just play them in order) and few homebrew application..
So this all is placed on two microSD cards, one has 4GB and the other has 2GB..

I would rather have possibility to use SDHC microSD, and not use it, then not have SDHC compatibility, and need it!!

People face it, R4 is a great cart, but it's one of the priciest card in the market, and it offers less than most of other ones in the scene..
and being a fanboy about it, doesn't help at all..
 

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This is my chart:
Supercard DS 1> Acekard R.P.G. > CycloDS Evo> Acekard 2> EDGE> M3 Real> DSTT> R4DS> NCard.

But do you know something really special? The R4DS is the second most expensive. The first being the CycloDS by 2-5 dollars.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE STILL BUY R4'S.
 
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