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What’s the switch 2 modding status?

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SecureBoot said:
Which switch 1 game jailbreaks the switch 2?
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Wait, said that wrong... if a Switch cartridge reader ever exists, can't we just package a homebrew game into an already existing game cartridge and then just load it up? If PS3 discs can be read with specific readers, as well as GBA games, couldn't it theoretically be possible to change the files inside the cartridge and run NS homebrew on NS2? (Or some dev could accidentally pull a Cubic Ninja...)
 
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Olimon7661 said:
Wait, said that wrong... if a Switch cartridge reader ever exists, can't we just package a homebrew game into an already existing game cartridge and then just load it up? If PS3 discs can be read with specific readers, as well as GBA games, couldn't it theoretically be possible to change the files inside the cartridge and run NS homebrew on NS2? (Or some dev could accidentally pull a Cubic Ninja...)
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There's this thing called cryptographic signature.
 
Olimon7661 said:
Well, theoretically, by packaging a Switch 1 game that jailbreaks the Switch 2, couldn't it work? (Since the S2 pretty much emulates S1 games)
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Sandboxing has been a rather common standard on systems for the past 15 years. Game-based exploits are basically a thing of the past. Most they could allow for is an entrypoint to run very basic homebrew.
 
Olimon7661 said:
Wait, said that wrong... if a Switch cartridge reader ever exists, can't we just package a homebrew game into an already existing game cartridge and then just load it up? If PS3 discs can be read with specific readers, as well as GBA games, couldn't it theoretically be possible to change the files inside the cartridge and run NS homebrew on NS2? (Or some dev could accidentally pull a Cubic Ninja...)
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so you tell me you about to make a official "fake game" for switch 1 to jailbreak the switch 2 !
 
Olimon7661 said:
Wait, said that wrong... if a Switch cartridge reader ever exists, can't we just package a homebrew game into an already existing game cartridge and then just load it up? If PS3 discs can be read with specific readers, as well as GBA games, couldn't it theoretically be possible to change the files inside the cartridge and run NS homebrew on NS2? (Or some dev could accidentally pull a Cubic Ninja...)
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You need really to catch up with history of console security measures. Playstation is the worst example as Sony seems to not learn from their mistakes as well as Nintendo.
 
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RyanTheArchivist said:
Sandboxing has been a rather common standard on systems for the past 15 years. Game-based exploits are basically a thing of the past. Most they could allow for is an entrypoint to run very basic homebrew.
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Not true in the slightest, lots of exploits come from sandbox escape. The latest and greatest PS5 exploit is from a PS4 game that has a PS2 emulator inside it as an entrypoint to launch khax.

Even some Visual Novels that use LUA are used as an entrypoint that still hasn't been patched.

A new 360 exploit uses a demo of Guitar Hero (or Rock Band I forget)
 
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Reualed said:
... Don't get why you are trying to start a fight.

Anyways, they'll still do it. Hacking into a console still takes time.
It's one thing to have an exploit working.
It's another to understand why and how the console functions on a large scale.

Often when an exploit is developed, modders/hackers are still learning new knowledge about the device. And at that point it's a mix of curiosity, and completion.

Edit: also delaying is also just a bad idea. What if there is hardware exploits? (Which there usually is) Those take serious knowledge and time to find. Because at the end of the day, even though we know the switch 2 runs some modified version of the switch 1 OS. We don't actually know how modified it is. It's a black box at that point with loose idea of what's inside it.
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thats the thing friend. im not trying g to tart anything here im just stating fact if a console is getting no updates it would make more sense to do it then as nintendo wouldn't give a crap then and the "dick measuring of who is able to do what would be halted once and for all" take the 3ds for example. once support ended the systems potential really shined. custom themes and h shop being one great example.
 
CaliousKai said:
thats the thing friend. im not trying g to tart anything here im just stating fact if a console is getting no updates it would make more sense to do it then as nintendo wouldn't give a crap then and the "dick measuring of who is able to do what would be halted once and for all" take the 3ds for example. once support ended the systems potential really shined. custom themes and h shop being one great example.
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The 3ds is a poor example, because people were trying to crack it ever since like, fricken 6.0.
There was save hax, at one point even the home menu was a exploit entry via abusing some theme related data all around that point.

And 9.0 is when we had the first major cfw event happen, which was 3 years into the 3ds life span. And still well getting updates.

Around version 10 there was waithax.
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And custom themes were already happening as early as 10.0 if I recall right. And hshop wasn't needed prior to like, version 14.

Because Nintendo later changed how the ticket and verfication system worked on the sever side, so you couldn't just download directly from the cdn.
 
FernandoRocker said:
Not even that.

There was not a reduction of production. It was a sensationalist piece by a questionable author (Google him).

Nintendo already denied the production reduction.

It is still the fastest selling system. But just wait until May for their next financial results and you will see.
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Nintendo didn't increase prices.

They actually just announced that they will be pricing their digital games $10 cheaper in May, starting with the new Yoshi game ($70 physical, $60 digital).
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$60 or less is what they should cost because $70 or $80 Nintendo is out of their G-d damn mind.

I won't be surprised if GTA VI launch price is $99.99, Deluxe Edition $149.99, and Premium Edition $199.99. They can do it because they know it will sell millions of copies.
 
SonyUSA said:
Not true in the slightest, lots of exploits come from sandbox escape. The latest and greatest PS5 exploit is from a PS4 game that has a PS2 emulator inside it as an entrypoint to launch khax.

Even some Visual Novels that use LUA are used as an entrypoint that still hasn't been patched.

A new 360 exploit uses a demo of Guitar Hero (or Rock Band I forget)
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Oh yes as entroypoints they can definitely be used. However we arent in an era anymore where a game exploit on its own is the answer. They can always be used as good entrypoints for further exploits.
 
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szubiennica said:
Maybe its time to set bounty on bootloader unlock, linux4switch2?
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Nintendo already does that. Bootrom exploits they can pay tens of thousands. https://hackerone.com/nintendo?type=team

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RyanTheArchivist said:
Nintendo already does that. Bootrom exploits they can pay tens of thousands. https://hackerone.com/nintendo?type=team

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I know there was something like that but didn't know the actual page.
Pretty interesting tbh, some people can make a decent living finding bugs and exploits seems like Nintendo alone has paid over a quarter million (it would be quite funny if the money was coming from those sued due to selling pirated content, but it's likely not the case).
 
naddel81 said:
Mods will come when sales decrease. ;)

At the moment there are two interesting games (DK and Mario Kart). And lets be honest. Those are not really system sellers (as sales figures show currently). So that there is no mod chip or exploit at the moment is not really bothering me as long as there is no new zelda or mario system seller out there.
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Or when they start charging $600-700 for the device.....
 

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