Hacking M3 real ds vs DSTT

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Which one do u think is better
M3 real or DSTT??
Tell me the reasons why thx
I wanna be exact!!
 

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the reviews on this site could help.

i'd say go for DSTT though. not only it's cheaper, it's also faster in loading games.

the downside is the default menu for DSTT, though YSMENU makes an R4-esqe menu if you don't like the default one.
 

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Consider the Acekard2, Edge, or DSTT over the M3 DS Real. There is a new menu system called Sakura that is under development for the M3 DS Real that might change the equation, but who knows when it might be out. Until then, any of the other carts listed above are better than the M3 DS Real.

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reiyu said:
the reviews on this site could help.

i'd say go for DSTT though. not only it's cheaper, it's also faster in loading games.

the downside is the default menu for DSTT, though YSMENU makes an R4-esqe menu if you don't like the default one.

Depends on what kind of bells-and-whistles hyun wants, I guess.

I'd suggest the DSTT too; the latest version of YSMenu is REALLY good (even download play on trimmed roms appears to work now, at least on the few I've tried it with), plus you can launch the standard DSTT menu from within it if you *really* find compatibility is a problem on any particular title.

The M3R has what I would consider to be an overly-busy user interface, with too many options and features that don't really do anything that I consider useful. Some find the ability to archive and switch between multiple save files *very* useful, and more power to them - personally, I find the added complexity of its menu system a negative that's not offset by things like that. The new Sakura menu system for the M3Real is in beta right now, and it might even make the M3R a much better choice when its final version is released, but I wouldn't base a "right now" purchasing decision on that alone.

Also, I'm not too happy with the case of the M3Real - but maybe I just got unlucky.

They both work, they both get updates when required, but my preference is the DSTT. You are not me, our requirements are not identical; take this with the grain of salt it deserves.
 

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So is that mean u guys don't know about later but now dstt is better than m3 real ds right?
 

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hyun said:
So is that mean u guys don't know about later but now dstt is better than m3 real ds right?


Right now? For you? DSTT, with the stock menu and a 2-gig TF. Good, cheap, it'll do what you probably want it to do
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, and you'll probably either find it adequate for many years to come or it will help you identify what features you really think you need. I suggest 2 gig as a practical limit with the stock menu on this card because, well, you'll be doing an awful lot of scrolling if you fill up a larger card with all the small crappy titles out there - get a good collection of shovelware and trim it and base your selection criteria on size alone, and you could probably fit 100-120 titles on 2 gig.

The DSTT isn't too expensive and works well for a basic card. It'd be hard to fault as a first purchase
 

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Diablo1123 said:
I ordered a DSTT yesterday at DealExtremes at a good price of around $30 plus 12 $ for 2 GB MicroSD card.
When do you guys think I can expect it?

Well, they claim to have 2 gig Kingstons in stock right now. Sku 10289 (the DSTT) currently says "Typically ships in 2-5 business days", which based on past experience with DX orders typically translates to "We may or may not have stock in the warehouse right this moment, but we have no reason to believe we won't be able to fulfill this in a reasonable time". Your definition of a reasonable time may or may not be the same as DX's.

I've had some items that claimed "2-5 days" listed as "Packaging" within 12 hours and packaged and shipped and appearing on the HK post tracking site within 72 hours of placing the order, others that have taken a week or more to hit "packaging", but usually the 2-5 days has been accurate for them to get it out their door. Whenever it's taken more than 5 or 6 days they've let me know that there's a hold-up.

Be prepared for a week for them to get it out, and two in the post. It probably won't be that long, but be prepared for 2-3 weeks anyway. And, occasionally, much more if demand seriously outstrips supply - like around Chinese New Year, or when a really hot new product is first introduced. The flip-side is that the order I'm expecting now will probably take around 10 calendar days from ordering to delivery (an AK2 - it's shipped, is visible on the HK post tracking site, and will probably hit my local post office next Monday), and the small mixed parcel of bits 'n' bobs before that took a little over a week from ordering to delivery in total.

Also, don't get all bent out of shape if it goes from "Packaging" to "Contact us" and eventually to "Shipped" a day or two after that and appears on the HK Post tracking site a day or three after that... it happens all the time, and the systems at neither of them appear to be geared towards real-time and factual information on order/shipping status. They'll both get it out, eventually.
 

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Bri said:
Consider the Acekard2, Edge, or DSTT over the M3 DS Real. There is a new menu system called Sakura that is under development for the M3 DS Real that might change the equation, but who knows when it might be out. Until then, any of the other carts listed above are better than the M3 DS Real.

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fair call. i'd basically say the same.

m3sakura looks really good, but they are taking ages to release a stable version.

not much between the other carts but i'd go AK2>DSTT>EDGE
 

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hyun said:
So is that mean dstt is way better than m3 real?
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No.

If you re-call, nearly every flashcard had a problem with FFCC:ROF except for the M3 DS Real. You can play GBA games on the M3R without any extra purchases too. And if that's not enough, some people have already mentioned... M3Sakura. It will kill everything then rape the remains.
 

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It's gonna take a long time for M3 Sakura and Dstt can play FFCC ...
Also, DSTT has way faster loading than M3 real ds and DSTT got YS MENU now so it's better.
Idk when M3 Sakura is available but not DSTT is way better than M3 real ds.
Oh yeah and also while M3 real will get M3 Sakura I bet DSTT will also get better
 

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hyun said:
It's gonna take a long time for M3 Sakura and Dstt can play FFCC ...


I was under the impression that DSTT can play Final Fantasy CC:ROF after the 1.09 update that fixed the "thank you for playing" screen, not sure if this is what you are talking about though.
 

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yes it can, but it needed a fix, m3 real was working without having to release a new update.

anyway i think m3 real wins because it has slowmotion mode and a free rumble pack, but both cards are pretty equal in quality/function.
 

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lenselijer said:
yes it can, but it needed a fix, m3 real was working without having to release a new update.

anyway i think m3 real wins because it has slowmotion mode and a free rumble pack, but both cards are pretty equal in quality/function.
Most games don't even support rumble..
 

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Not to mention that you can buy the DSTT with a rumble for a few dollars more than the DSTT alone, or you can buy the eWin rumble for $4.43 at dealextreme.

I'd consider the M3 Real's current menu to be more of a disadvantage than its rumble to be an advantage compared to the DSTT. Maybe Sakura will change things though.

Personally, I think the DSTT team has had plenty of time to have fixed the sorting issue, not to mention hardware problems with some of the carts. The Acekard 2 might be better than both of them.

-Bri
 

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Bri said:
Personally, I think the DSTT team has had plenty of time to have fixed the sorting issue, not to mention hardware problems with some of the carts.

Sorting issue is annoying, yes, and they should do something about it. I suspect the h/w problems are probably something that have mostly been sorted out by now, though - with the possible exception of shimmable contact problems experienced in some DS consoles, and with a glued-together cartridge that's not an easy problem to fix permanently. Personally, I think that if they're going to stick with the epoxy-blob construction they could probably get away with using a slightly thicker PCB and that would make a whole lot of contact problems go away.


BriThe Acekard 2 might be better than both of them.

I'll have a proper opinion on the AK2 some time next week, after it's arrived and I've had a good look at it. Based on price and features and the manufacturer's reputation I've gone ahead and ordered one (need *something* to suggest to people who would have bought R4s if the price hadn't skyrocketed, and I don't like recommending anything I haven't personally used), but I'm not sure I'll like the clip-together construction... didn't like it much on my M3 Real either.
 

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I wonder if the AK2 can be glued together, and if that would give it any extra strength. Is the plastic significantly thinner / more flexible than other carts, or is it just the clips that allow it to flex more?

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Bri said:
I wonder if the AK2 can be glued together, and if that would give it any extra strength. Is the plastic significantly thinner / more flexible than other carts, or is it just the clips that allow it to flex more?

-Bri

Don't know yet.... but it's probably a combination of the two.

Oh, and my DSTT died over the weekend - and I suspect it may well have been my fault. As I've posted before, mine had been cracked open for shimming and out of curiosity. I suspect it may have been flexed a little too much while I was fiddling with removable adhesives and that something under the epoxy blob let go. Damn... once I've done some decent comparisons between my soon-to-arrive AK2 and my M3Real I may just have to offload the M3R so I can get another DSTT (can't justify keeping something I just don't use...)
 

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