Gaming I can't believe it's almost over.

Awdofgum · Apr 3, 2008

i almost beat the first one but then i got bored, and now i'm working on trials and tribulations but it's getting boring, i haven't played it for 2 weeks.

Ruri · Apr 4, 2008

xJonny said:
I've encountered this and it's annoying. Sometimes you have to wait until later to present that contradiction. Quite a few times presenting items linked with an object will do it though. When I get stuck I do get annoyed but the storyline is just so epic, it really is turnabout trials.

The most annoying part for me is when you clearly have to make an argument using two objects, yet presenting the 'wrong' one results in a generic penalty (while presenting the 'right' one causes Phoenix or Apollo to immediately bring up the second.) Or cases where there are two similar objects that can clearly be used to make the same argument, yet only one is accepted.

But you don't really need a FAQ for those, at least.

zellthemedic · Apr 4, 2008

Ruri said:
Or cases where there are two similar objects that can clearly be used to make the same argument, yet only one is accepted.

I've had this happen to me. I remember on the first PW, on the last GBA case during the last part where you have to present evidence that there was

two shots fired. I presented the picture with the intent of showing them that Edgeworth's dad couldn't scream "URRRRRRRGAH" because he died instantly (Bullet to the heart), but apparently that was the wrong choice. The bullet in the window was the right one. Luckily, I didn't get penalized for it...but still.

People might rag on this game because it has no replay value whatsoever and is extremely linear, but I love them because they tell great stories.

And it makes me feel good to hear the "Objection!" music whenever I find out part of the case that's had me stuck for a bit.

ojsinnerz. · Apr 4, 2008

I finished the first one, and loved it. Started playing the second one right after, than got disappointed with it's music, and the cases. Then I'm probably gonna start third one soon.

cubin' · Apr 4, 2008

Just play a different game.

FlameTakuya · Apr 4, 2008

ojsinnerz said:
I finished the first one, and loved it. Started playing the second one right after, than got disappointed with it's music, and the cases. Then I'm probably gonna start third one soon.

Have you played 2-4 yet?

JFA might not be the best game ever, but for 2-4, it's worth playing.

Plus, a character from there returns in TnT, so you might be spoiling youself a little if you play TnT first...

leavemealone347 · Apr 4, 2008

Yes the Objection music makes me feel like a badass lawyer. I love it. In fact that is what hooked me on the game in the first place. It actually makes me feel "good"

Raestloz · Apr 4, 2008

Yes, it really has a great story, and te turnabout moments really makes you feels 'right' and 'win'

Nevertheless, the replay value is almost 0. And JFA is truly bad.

lenselijer · Apr 4, 2008

My little brother says you should play Hotel Dusk, he finished all PW games himself and says its similair.

Yugge · Apr 4, 2008

lenselijer said:
My little brother says you should play Hotel Dusk, he finished all PW games himself and says its similair.

Maybe for the inspection part, but even tho, it's not really similar, Ace attorney is based on comedy which Hotel dusk aint. Anyhow, Hotel Dusk is a great game and you should play it nevertheless.

xJonny · Apr 4, 2008

Yugge said:
Ace attorney is based on comedy

I disagree, it's based on a good storyline with some humour to the emotions in game.

Psyfira · Apr 4, 2008

zellthemedic said:
People might rag on this game because it has no replay value whatsoever and is extremely linear, but I love them because they tell great stories.

Very true, that's why I'm still playing. Despite the holes in the gameplay I still want to know what happens, and the artwork's pretty as hell. I was just defending the "no remorse for using a walkthrough" angle (and venting, cause it's a game I'm currently playing).

xjenova · Apr 4, 2008

I have played and finished all the games in the Ace attorney series and i have to say that even though all you do is mostly read, they are some of the most addictive games i have played. The plots, the cases, the characters, the twists; these games have all i want and would expect of a great graphic novel.

I also agree with people that Trial and Tribulations is a must-play. Man, the last case in that game is just mind-blowing!

In my opinion, they are worth their money much more than Hotel Dusk, which i found to be boring even though you have more "control" of your character.

Taziz · Apr 4, 2008

xjenova said:
I have played and finished all the games in the Ace attorney series and i have to say that even though all you do is mostly read, they are some of the most addictive games i have played. The plots, the cases, the characters, the twists; these games have all i want and would expect of a great graphic novel.

I also agree with people that Trial and Tribulations is a must-play. Man, the last case in that game is just mind-blowing!

In my opinion, they are worth their money much more than Hotel Dusk, which i found to be boring even though you have more "control" of your character.

I agree with you I'm currently buying all AA games they are way to addictive and they are very long
thats why I bought my ds int he first place, since I played it on emulator

Syao4 · Apr 4, 2008

Yeah finishing Apollo Justice should be a bummer.
That's why I took a break from it after case 2...
I hope GS5 will be out soon.

slayerspud · Apr 4, 2008

Ruri said:
They've already confirmed a 5th game, I think (it will be the last one starring Phoenix, though not the last one in the series -- I suspect they wanted to see the reaction to 4 before writing a definite ending to Phoenix's story.) This is Capcom, they never stop releasing games in a profitable franchise.

There are other series you might enjoy, although none with Phoenix Wright's courtroom drama/antics. (Well, except the Phoenix-Wright based Harvey Birdman game for the PS2, which uses almost the exact same system.)

Famicom Detective Club 2 is a mystery-adventure game for the SNES. That link is to a translation patch. It has a feel similar to the Phoenix Wright games, anyway.

The PORTOPIA Serial Murder Case is a murder investigation game for the NES. It's sort of the grandfather of all Japanese-style adventure games, including Phoenix Wright. Sort of dated, but still very fun. In addition to inspiring most other Japanese adventure games (you'll definitely notice the things Phoenix Wright's investigation sections borrowed from it), it also earned Enix the money they used to create Dragon Warrior. And you can play it on your DS on an emulator.

Snatcher (the SegaCD version was released in English and is very good) is another Japanese adventure game worth playing. It's sort of inspired by Blade Runner... you're a detective investigating murderous robots that impersonate humans.

I highly recommend all three.

Unfortunately, good GBA / DS mystery adventures are limited... there's the Touch Detective series, which is only ok; and there's Hotel Dusk, which is very different from the above games. Then there's that homebrew that lets you play graphic novels on the DS... there are probably some that would fit these requirements.

That game looks quality. Though how do you download the translation patch ? I can't find the link on that site =/

distorted.freque · Apr 5, 2008

@ slayerspud

Don't you just click the number? Underneath the Patch version?

krazykirk · Apr 5, 2008

The Phoenix Wright series have gotta be my favourite game(s) on my DS!

I might re-play case 3-5 again, since that was truely epic.

I can't wait for 5 to come out!

zellthemedic · Apr 5, 2008

Case 3-5? I don't...understand...

FlameTakuya · Apr 6, 2008

Case 3-5.

As in, game 3, case 5.

The Bikini one.

(That's the way PW cases are talked about. Eg. The Kitaki one in AJ is 4-2, Circus one in JFA is 2-3, Trés Bien one in T&T is 3-3, etc.)

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