That's cool, like I said, if you don't have fun doing it, then by all means, don't do it, but like I said in my post, that doesn't mean we shouldn't, since you'll still be racing the exact same way as if we weren't, just without first place all the time and maybe better items more oftenMADKATZ99 said:Faceless I'm with you on that on sucking the fun out. I'm one of those weird types that bothered to learn it pretty well but chose not to use it on or offline with a serious race because I chose not to use a glitch to massage the system basically.0Faceless0 said:I can understand the snakers' view point, but the snakers seem unable to see the non-snakers' viewpoint. I'm not willing to devote the hours into mastering snaking on every course for the simple reason that I have better things to do with my time.Thats simple, if you dont want to do it, then dont. No one is making you snake in the game. But for some people, all that hours effort mastering every track is actually very fun, and makes for more fast paced satisfying races with friends.
Im not sure what anti-snaker view point im supposed to have... the fact that I cant hack that people actually played the game a lot more, and can race better than me when it should be a casual well rounded game? The fact is no game is well rounded. Reggie was saying in his MKwii interview thing that this is a mario kart where a first timer can imediately stay bumper to bumper with a kart veteran. Its obvious that he said it so the MAJORITY of the players buy the game after hearing it, because thats what the consumers hated so much about the MKDS version. Its great for casual people that want to have a quick round, but if you cant improve at the game, theres nothing that appeals to the minority that actually want to race competitivley. Its also great for nintendo, because all they care about is the money they make, not if a game can use turbos on straights. If the majority of the consumers dont want it, they boot it from the game for more $$$. Of cause reggie's wrong, because in every game the skilled person is going to come off better than the other guy, but i imagine hes refering about items and the weakness of MT's now that your not going to pull away from the other races as fast this time round. All that said and done, I garentee people are going to complain about somthing else. mabey 'sandbaggers'. I know its a stupid name, but its when you hit the brakes in order to get the second place item, which is allways better than getting a crappy first place bannana. That annoyed a lot of people.. you cant turn around and say 'thats not how the developers wanted the game to be played!!!!111' because thats ridiculas when you put it in that perspective.
Or mabey they'll even complain about SSMT's. Its pretty much a given that these will be in the game. The tracks are wide enough, and the turbos are generated fast enough to pull them off. no one knows yet if these will actually be faster than driving in a straight line... so be weary of that too. If this type of stuff bothers you, dont play online!!! Its simple. get a group of friends over to play at one of your crazy off the hook partys.
I agree, basically the point I was getting at.0Faceless0 said:
Anyway, Faceless, we do see your arguement. But what we see is also you guys telling us to stop what we're doing. As he said, it's not really a matter of us snaking, but us winning. It kind of shows you guys as being sore losers because you think "snaking is taking the fun out of the game". Really, it's not snaking that's doing it, it's losing. Us snaking doesn't affect your gameplay AT ALL. You guys still play the exact same way, it's just you won't get to see that win, oh well, is it really that horrible? I mean, we see your point, you guys don't want to learn it because it's not fun for you, and you know, that's cool, if you're not having fun, then by all means don't do it. But as I said, that shouldn't mean we shouldn't be able to do it or be looked down upon just because we do have more fun doing it. I mean, some of you guys think we do it because we wanna win, but that's not really the case for most of us. We do it because it provides more depth, and depth provides more fun for us. Not just online but for things like Time Trials too. Like I said, the only thing that's gonna change is you not being first all the time, but you can still race the EXACT same way in the EXACT same courses at the EXACT same pace you want, just while we're racing in ours
And yeah, finding people who don't snake is also a great idea, thatway you can still have insane close up races you're looking for, it's not that hard actually, apparently there's a lot of them here.
And I really like MKDS Mini Turbos every other Mario Kart, it just seemed like I had more control, didn't feel like a nuisance controlling it (my opinion). But changing it would've been alright, it's just, taking out the control of how fast is kind of annoying, I don't like Nintendo holding our hands.
QUOTE(Vampire Hunter D @ Mar 31 2008, 11:26 PM)
It's sad to see even this topic is now getting new people to register to defend exploiting a bug within the game as being legit, ok, how it was intended, or whatever other excuse gives comfort. Just wish the entire argument would just die because either you won't/don't/can't use the glitch and as such hate it or find it dishonorable, or you do use it and abuse the hell out of it to get some easy wins. Neither side is going to agree and it's really as simple as that.
New member, meh, I've never been here before, I was linked to this so I checked it out, and I wanted to reply. Why is that sad? I mean, aren't these forums meant for discussions? People aren't always going to agree with eachother, that's how discussions are formed, sometimes they do get out of hand, but I guess I'm trying to be reasonable about my posts without offending anyone about it.
