Sleeping Pills ?

Garouken · Mar 19, 2008

Im thinking off getting some... but anyone know if these are good ?
http://www.arizonapharmaceuticals.com/donormyl.html and if this page isnt just a way to get creditcard numbers

test84 · Mar 19, 2008

i suggest not taking any pills at all, trying exercising to get tired and avoid caffeine on the evening.

Westside · Mar 19, 2008

test84 said:
i suggest not taking any pills at all, trying exercising to get tired and avoid caffeine on the evening.

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My mother also has sleeping problems, she uses medications. Even though she sleeps well now, her memory is deteriorating along with her senses of smell, pain and such. If you are old or disabled, nothing you can do. Otherwise, hike mountains, run at least 10 miles a day, and pump push ups until you can feel the earth moving.

podunk1269 · Mar 19, 2008

i use sleeping pills, those are pure shit, stick to one with melatonin and a unisom and you'll be fine

test84 · Mar 19, 2008

I suggested those ways but none work for me self.
Only method that worked for me is to staying awake 1.5 days (24 hour + another 16 hour) and then I can sleep anytime i want and wake after 8 hours, but it has several problems, I feel pain in my chest while staying awake, It will have effect on hair loss, can easily be get back to bad habit and last but not least, needs a great will to stay awake on second day, dont recommend it to anyone. I tried pills (read my blog) but the only thing they did was to make my legs heavy, even after taking two of them at once (doubling the dose), no effect. even caffeine has no effect on me.

fischju · Mar 19, 2008

test84 said:
I suggested those ways but none work for me self.
Only method that worked for me is to staying awake 1.5 days (24 hour + another 16 hour) and then I can sleep anytime i want and wake after 8 hours, but it has several problems, I feel pain in my chest while staying awake, It will have effect on hair loss, can easily be get back to bad habit and last but not least, needs a great will to stay awake on second day, dont recommend it to anyone. I tried pills (read my blog) but the only thing they did was to make my legs heavy, even after taking two of them at once (doubling the dose), no effect. even caffeine has no effect on me.

Go on the 28 hour day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28-hour_day

Urza · Mar 19, 2008

Take a 15 minute ice bath about an hour prior to going to bed. It will knock you out like a tranquilizer.

QUOTE said:
Go on the 28 hour day.

The 28 hour day isn't particularly easy to pull off for insomniacs. Have a few hours of not being able to sleep, your whole schedule gets fucked up, and you have to start over your timing.

A biphasic sleep pattern is much easier to adhere to. Personally, I use a 4.5 hour core sleep/1.5 hour afternoon nap and it works great.

Garouken · Mar 19, 2008

podunk1269 said:
i use sleeping pills, those are pure shit, stick to one with melatonin and a unisom and you'll be fine

why are they pure shit?

Thanubis · Mar 19, 2008

laminaatplaat · Mar 19, 2008

Garouken said:
Im thinking off getting some... but anyone know if these are good ?
http://www.arizonapharmaceuticals.com/donormyl.html and if this page isnt just a way to get creditcard numbers

Go to a doctor, he can probably help you! Don't just buy stuff like that on random.

NeSchn · Mar 19, 2008

I take some Nyquil when I can't sleep. It knocks me out in a few minutes. But before I go ot bed I usually relax for an 1 hour or so and play some fun games or watch TV.

dakeyras · Mar 19, 2008

Thanubis said:
Take a 15 minute ice bath about an hour prior to going to bed. It will knock you out like a tranquilizer.

That does not sound safe at all. :wtf:

If nothing else works for you sleeping pills are very useful. Just make sure you read up on whatever your doctor gives you and be aware that it might increase your problems because you get used to the medicine, need more pills, get used to that dose etc, until you can't sleep without a huge dose. But if you have a good doctor he should be able to guide you in this adequately.

Urza · Mar 19, 2008

dakeyras said:
Urza said:

Take a 15 minute ice bath about an hour prior to going to bed. It will knock you out like a tranquilizer.

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That does not sound safe at all.

Its perfectly safe.

dakeyras · Mar 19, 2008

Very silly question. Are we talking about actual ice or just cold water?

Urza · Mar 19, 2008

dakeyras said:
Very silly question. Are we talking about actual ice or just cold water?

A bathtub of water with ice bags in it.

dakeyras · Mar 19, 2008

I thought that around 15 minutes in water that is that cold is a sure way to get hypothermia. But if you've been doing it I suppose I am wrong? Oh well.

Urza · Mar 19, 2008

dakeyras said:
I thought that around 15 minutes in water that is that cold is a sure way to get hypothermia. But if you've been doing it I suppose I am wrong? Oh well.

Bathtub of tap water + two bags of ice is not the Arctic Ocean.

test84 · Mar 19, 2008

dakeyras said:
I thought that around 15 minutes in water that is that cold is a sure way to get hypothermia. But if you've been doing it I suppose I am wrong? Oh well.

I believe you have to get used to it and its not a good prescription for anyone.

DarkAura · Mar 20, 2008

dakeyras said:
I thought that around 15 minutes in water that is that cold is a sure way to get hypothermia. But if you've been doing it I suppose I am wrong? Oh well.

Yah, if you sit around and do nothing in the tub and do nothing for 15 minutes then you can get cold, but not hypothermia. You know if you have hypothermia if you stop shivering. Think of sitting in a hot tub for like 10 minutes and then jumping into a pile of snow outside in like -10 degrees Celsius; hypothermia.

cubin' · Mar 20, 2008

Sleeping pills are the devil and should only be used in emergencies and for maybe one week maximum.

The addiction you can get from using a certain type of sleeping pill is only second to heroin.

Quite a few people say they found it easier to kick heroin than sleeping pills.

There's lots of ways to deal with insomnia but if you're really stuck on using some type of drug I'd recommend using cannabis. It's never killed anyone and has the lowest toxicity compared to sleeping pills/benzos.

You need to find out why you're having trouble sleeping. You can go to a sleep research clinic and they can put monitors on you while you sleep to try and find the problem. Exercise can really help and it's shown to be better than sleeping pills with some people.

Are you depressed or anxious about anything?

There's a whole range of sleeping pills and the herbal ones or the melatonin ones are much safer and shouldn't give you any trouble.

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