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Donald Trump indicted on federal charges related to handling of classified documents

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The Constitution outlines the qualifications to be President. Indictments are not disqualifiers. Convictions are not disqualifiers. Being in jail is not a disqualifier.
Depends on if they find him guilty of destruction of documents, which would prevent him from holding any future office.
 

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It was purposefully left out yes, because three quarters of it is factual and was never in dispute, while the other quarter is just more disingenuous bullshit and words you put in my mouth.
All of it was proven bullshit. That's why you left it out.
See that there is a can of worms or monkey's paw type situation. A higher-than-average number of your political and religious leaders are pedos, so they're never gonna write legislation that might come back to bite them in the ass. What you mean to say is "I want to discriminate against gays and transgender individuals via law," which is again, unconstitutional. Try moving to Russia if that fact causes you so much pain.
I don't have political or religious leaders. Kids shouldn't be mutilated. The fact you focus on kids' genitals so much is concerning.
 
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Depends on if they find him guilty of destruction of documents, which would prevent him from holding any future office.
He's not being charged with destruction of documents.

He's being charged with willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly concealing a document or record, concealing a document in a federal investigation, scheme to conceal, and false statements and representations.

None of these charges prevent him from running for president, even if he is found guilty.
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That argument doesn't work so well after a thread full of you responding from inside of Trump's anus.
You are reduced to sophomoric insults on every single thread. If you had actual facts, you wouldn't be forced to do this. Then again, you've shown that facts are not your strong suit.
 
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He's not being charged with destruction of documents.

He's being charged with willful retention of national defense information, conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document or record, corruptly concealing a document or record, concealing a document in a federal investigation, scheme to conceal, and false statements and representations.
I don't believe we've seen all the charges yet. We'll have to wait for the arraignment to hear everything.

But there was that whole scandal of a Mar-A-lago staff member draining a pool directly into the security surveillance room, destroying evidence. If that person says that Trump told them to do it, it's "Go directly to jail; do not pass go, do not collect $200".
 
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I don't believe we've seen all the charges yet. We'll have to wait for the arraignment to hear everything.

But there was that whole scandal of a Mar-A-lago staff member draining a pool directly into the security surveillance room, destroying evidence. If that person says that Trump told them to do it, it's "Go directly to jail; do not pass go, do not collect $200".
What, you mean not everybody designs the resort they plan to live at so that the pool drains into the server room? /s

It's shit like that which really insults everybody's intelligence. Trump is a cartoon mobster.
 
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It's shit like that which really insults everybody's intelligence. Trump is a cartoon mobster.
He really IS a caricature of an over-the-top criminal.

There will be entire university courses dedicated to dissecting his political career. Students will need to confirm with their teacher if the former president of the US REALLY said/did __________________ (Fill in the blanks for the countless idiotic things he has done).

Psychologists will study how he riled up people, and had them defend him at every turn, no matter how blatant he lied to their faces. He made people turn their opinions around on a dime if he told them to. He's mad the party of "law and order" into a party that hates the DOJ and FBI (Even though most officers are statistically Republican!).

If it comes out that he had an abortion years ago, he'd say "Yeah, I made a girl get an abortion. There's nothing wrong about that!", people would just accept that as their new truth.
 
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If it comes out that he had an abortion years ago, he'd say "Yeah, I made a girl get an abortion. There's nothing wrong about that!", people would just accept that as their new truth.
Yeah the religious nutjobs worship him for the same reason the ammosexuals do: he hates the same people they do and he's the loudest dumbass in the room. Trump could get '666' tattooed on his forehead and there would still be plenty of so-called "Christians" defending him.
 

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I report it all the time, but feel free to do the same. Mods might actually act if it's more than just me.
At least the messages calling you a groomer shouldn't be acceptable. It's all a yikes but to even imply that is pretty awful.
They really do want to take all meaning away from these words by shouting them at anyone they disagree with. Meanwhile the people doing it are loving the discourse because the focus is off of them and the actual harm being done to kids by their hand.
 

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Yeah the religious nutjobs worship him for the same reason the ammosexuals do: he hates the same people they do and he's the loudest dumbass in the room. Trump could get '666' tattooed on his forehead and there would still be plenty of so-called "Christians" defending him.
Come on! All those religious not-jobs KNOW he's not religious in the slightest.
There's him not being able to recite his favorite verse because it was "Too personal" LOL
There's him reading "Two Corinthians"
He's said he's never sought forgiveness for his sins.
There's his wife saying "Who gives a F--- about Christmas stuff"

Anyone who thinks he is is very deluded.
 

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I don't have political or religious leaders. Kids shouldn't be mutilated. The fact you focus on kids' genitals so much is concerning.
Why don't you worry about real issues? Like... the ones that actually happen. It'd be a nice change. :)
Also, trans kids exist and are valid. People don't magically become trans when they turn 18 or [insert local legal age of adulthood here]. You probably knew your gender identity long before adulthood, if I were to hazard a guess. So do many other people.
 
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Pffff...fucking finally! It's been days if not weeks since that audio tape surfaced that contradicts his own statements of him declassifying all those (sometimes top) secret documents.

Not that THAT train wreck of a defense was particularly strong ("it was planted there by the feds", "I had the right to take stuff", "it's automatically declassified when I want to take them", "I wished them declassified", "I'm at least as innocent as Mike Pence").

There's one thing I don't really get. Since his crime is a violation of the espionage act...does that mean the authorities suspect him of being a spy? Or is it just gross maliciousness? Because for some reason everyone circles around the main question here:

Why the fuck did Trump take all those documents? No, really: it's not controversial that he didn't like to read more than single pages of documents while in office. So it's not like he was planning on catching up on reading. But why else?
 
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oh nooooooooo scawwwwwy

Mostly harmless.

Why the fuck did Trump take all those documents? No, really: it's not controversial that he didn't like to read more than single pages of documents while in office. So it's not like he was planning on catching up on reading. But why else?

I don't know if you have ever heard of Crossfire Hurricane or the Durham report, but self-preservation would be a logical guess. Political misdirection would be a wise guess.
 

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I don't know if you have ever heard of Crossfire Hurricane or the Durham report, but self-preservation would be a logical guess. Political misdirection would be a wise guess.
Not by name, but if course I've heard of the investigation into potential collision with Russia in the 2016 election, and the following claims of bias.

I don't see, however, how that has anything to do with this. Self preservation would be if he took notes of that investigation. But these documents had mostly if not completely nothing to do with that investigation. And as it turns out, those documents have pretty much the opposite effect of preservation.
 
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I don't see, however, how that has anything to do with this. Self preservation would be if he took notes of that investigation. But these documents had mostly if not completely nothing to do with that investigation. And as it turns out, those documents have pretty much the opposite effect of preservation.

I'm not claiming to know what the documents said. Are you? Usually self-preservation is the reason anybody does anything. Why politicians do things usually involve an intricate maze of smoke-and-mirrors. They are above the need to "survive", lol. Whether Trump is feigning or following a script is anyone's guess.

The Durham report did more than just investigate "bias". It revealed how something like watergate would be tame compared to what's going on with the dirty politicians these days.

The fact that you seem to "follow" politics, genuinely, on a hacking forum, raises some mental health concerns. Are you not aware of "the game"? I lose by telling you about it, but I do care that much.

I love you.
 
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